posted July 28, 2006 01:12 AM              

Do you think pid cares what they think? Of course not, she's having a hoot because she's bad naming my faith.

posted July 28, 2006 01:16 AM              

Im not going to stop what I do as long as people post bs on this forum.

posted July 28, 2006 01:38 AM              

I would also be surprised if we have some of his followers here.

And why am I the only one being addressed here?

posted July 28, 2006 07:20 AM              

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And why am I the only one being addressed here?

Why dont you voice anything in the hateful threads pid creates on a regular basis?

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DayDreamer....*hugs*

I've NEVER, EVER, seen YOU post anything hateful, and you certainly have a right to be offended by anyone putting down your religion.

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Pat Robertson expressed concern that Americans, "especially the American left," need to "wake up" to the "danger" that Islam presents. Robertson continued: "Who ever heard of such a bloody, bloody, brutal type of religion? But that's what it is. It is not a religion of peace."

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Pots calling kettles black....

The "Christian" religion doesn't have a real good record when it comes to.....what is "bloody, bloody and brutal, and not a religion of peace."

Remember the Inquisitions? the Crusades? Scientists put to death as heretics for daring to speak to truth?

Come on...tell me THAT'S NOT BLOODY!

Robertson is a very narrow-minded man, and to me, it's scary that he has the following that he does....more "sheeple."

Take heart DayDreamer....

If YOU are an example of what a Muslim is...then one just might find a preference to it over "being a Christian" considering the "examples" of some of the so-called "Christians" around here who thrive on blood and war and death.

Some of them, are "bloody, bloody, brutal and don't seem to be promoting a "religion of peace," that I can see.

Take our "SAVED BORN AGAIN" Christian president, for example...the damn biggest butcher this side of saddam...

posted July 28, 2006 08:53 AM              

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Pid made the reference to answeringislam first. I merely provided her with the rebuttal from answeringchristianity, since she likes to source from second rate websites.

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posted July 29, 2006 08:27 PM              

I'm interested in what you think because when you first began posting here you seemed to have a significantly more balanced outlook and considerably less generalized anger. The change is telling. And sad.

I already mentioned Answering Islam to Pid. You didn't notice it? Maybe you don't wish to.

posted July 30, 2006 02:27 AM              

I couldnt find where you mentioned anything about answeringislam to pid, who is the one that posted from the site first, and the one that posted with bad intentions. I see my name singled-out.

Actually I cant recall a time where I came across any sort of debate or discourse you had with pid when she's on her tangent.

I don't read answeringchristianity or answeringislam. And it's not like I posted anything hateful from answeringchristianity.
And no I dont endorse those websites for learning about the two religions.

posted August 07, 2006 08:33 PM              

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There looms a greater concern in the Muslim world that, under the cloak of a war against terrorism, another war might be brewing, which is directed against Islam and Muslims. The world remembers that George Bush originally dubbed this war as a new Crusade, which, as Robert Parry points out, "has a European connotation of chivalrous knights in shining armor driving the infidels out of the Holy Lands, but conjures up very different memories in the Islamic world, of a bloody Christian holy war against Arabs. In 1099, for instance, the Crusaders massacred many of the inhabitants of Jerusalem." ["Bush's Crusade", in Consortium News, September 25, 2001] As an astute politician, Bush quickly recognized his blunder and moved away from the Crusade label. However, many of the conservative loyalists have mounted a new campaign to directly vilify Islam, and even the Prophet Muhammad is one of their core targets.

Conservative columnist Ann Coulter proposed forcible conversion of Muslims, adding: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review, a conservative magazine, called for dropping a "dirty bomb" or even a nuclear one on Mecca. Apparently, "judging from the e-mail he's received, there's 'lots of sentiment for nuking Mecca', which in his view would send a signal." [Jeremy Lott, "That's Rich," in The Prospect, March 11, 2002]

Bill O'Reilly, the host of O'Reilly Factor Show on Fox News, compared studying the Qur'an with studying Mein Kampf, a book by Adolf Hitler.

Rev. Franklin Graham, the son of well known Rev. Billy Graham, directly attacked Islam. In his view, "Muslims are evil." In an NBC News interview, he commented: "The God of Islam is not the same God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."

At the 2002annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention Jerry Vines, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Fla., declared that Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile" and that Islam teaches the destruction of all non-Muslims. [CBS News, 10/11/2002]

Not to be outdone, another loyal conservative Evangelist, Rev. Jerry Falwell of the Moral Majority, remarked during a CBS 60 Minutes interview: "I think Muhammad was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and - non-Muslims, (to know) that he was a violent man, a man of war."

Newly rehabilitated Rev. Jimmy Swaggart called for expelling all Muslim students on student visa, and the leader of 700 Club, Rev. Pat Roberson identified Islam as anti-Semitic and commented: "This is worse than Nazis." [Washington Times, November 22, 2002]

Even though some of them have subsequently offered public apology, theirs are not isolated voices. Notably, these public figures claim to do God's work and regard themselves as men of God. After the initial slip, Bush has been trying to steer clear of the Crusade mode in any rhetoric, but his loyal conservative circle keeps him and his administration under constant pressure. While Bush may not be politically too cozy with the word Crusade, he can't afford to be even minimally cozy with Muslims or Islam.

In reality, it seems that America's war against terrorism might be gradually mutating into a war against Islam. That is a rather strong perception among the Muslims, at any rate, and the posturing of the U.S. administration and certain vested interests lends little help.

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posted August 07, 2006 09:18 PM              

I know they are extremists, and you're right we can find them on the other end "proposing war against the infidel"

It's not paranoia for me...hope Im not making you or anyone else paranoid.

I posted them because I think there may be some extremists here. They agree with most of these extremist views. To name one person that I can recall, jwhop, has actually posted quotes from Coulter about exterminating Muslims.

posted August 07, 2006 09:30 PM              

Any true path, painstakingly carved through the wilderness by the wise and compassionate, should be honored.

posted August 07, 2006 09:31 PM              

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I wouldn't worry about ole' Jwhop. I've heard rumors that Opus Dei rather respects Islam.

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Well I can't keep quiet and let extremists say nasty things about me and other Muslims.

posted August 07, 2006 09:34 PM              

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Any true path, painstakingly carved out of the wilderness by the wise and compassionate, should be honored.

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Awww, I got the warm fuzzies

posted August 08, 2006 01:43 AM              

Back to the Opus Dei rumor. I have to admit I don't know much about this organization. I haven't even read The Di Vinci Code, I guess from where Opus Dei has now become popular.

This is what Ive found, so far on Opus Dei...
http://www.opusdei.ca/

http://www.opusdei.ca/art.php?p=14598

Also found this...

"Catholicism and Islam, “Ties That Bind”"
http://focusonjerusalem.com/tiesthatbind.html