posted August 10, 2006 03:14 AM              

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have a difficult time with this one myself, I must admit. The reason being, politicians in a democracy KNOW that eyes are always on them, and anything and everything they do can and will come back to haunt them, somewhere, somehow, at some point down the road...usually when they LEAST want it to.

That's not to say that they don't make serious faux-pas...but to be involved this deeply, in something this sinister...if they have any hope or ambition for a political future, they wouldn't want to have anything to do with this, and wouldn't hesitate to sound the alarm on anyone else who they knew WAS involved in something like this...There's always been symbolic "cannibolism" that goes on amongst politicians, and they keep each other in line with it...

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You've made some good observations lioneye, but from what I understand, this goes way deep, way far...and way back..

Here's something from.....

...Conspirators Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 3000
by Dr. John Coleman

With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the New World Order agenda of worldwide domination and control.....

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....The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us.....

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I haven't read this book (I'm hoping to one day).....but I have read a lot about the NWO, and information about it comes from more sources than Cathy O'Brien's book.

In fact, the first time I ever heard anything about the NWO was back in the mid 70's (about the same time I found Linda Goodman's SUN SIGNS) It was brought to my attention by a discussion group I was in at the time...

.....so it's NOT a new concept for me...

....but yes, I can understand your skeptism...

Caution is good...

posted August 10, 2006 11:04 AM            

I understand now, it's only what Cathy says in the book that we can comment on

"Transcription: Cathy O'Brien's Presentation
Mind Control

A Presentation to Justice Pro Se
by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien
June 4, 1996

Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan

transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano"

Cathy O'Brien speaking:
I'd like to thank Justice Pro Se for having Mark and I come in and speak to all of you, and I'd like to thank each and every one of you for coming out here this evening, to arm yourselves with information on a tool that is being used to usher in what Adolph Hitler and George Bush term "New World Order," and that is mind control. You have a right to know and a need to know these secrets that the perpe-traitors* in control of our country have been controlling all of us by for far too long. Knowledge is our only defense against mind control..........

"And she recalls with horror the memorable day when she saw Bush reveal his true form: a humanoid lizard. For the sex slaves do not exist only to provide pleasure to their masters.

The Illuminati Reptiloids require human DNA, obtained through acts of sex and vampirism, to retain their human disguises."
http://ic.net/~celano/cathtrans.html

posted August 10, 2006 12:39 PM              

Like duh!

First of all.....thanks so much for giving us that link again.....it's about the fourth time it has been posted on this board...

I posted the first one - Pid the second - (thinking it was somehow "debunking" Cathy)....and I then posted it again.....and now you....at least someone may be reading it!

Okay......

YOu give us this....which IS what Cathy said.....

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"I'd like to thank Justice Pro Se for having Mark and I come in and speak to all of you, and I'd like to thank each and every one of you for coming out here this evening, to arm yourselves with information on a tool that is being used to usher in what Adolph Hitler and George Bush term "New World Order," and that is mind control.

You have a right to know and a need to know these secrets that the perpe-traitors* in control of our country have been controlling all of us by for far too long. Knowledge is our only defense against mind control.........."

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......and then YOU add this!

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"And she recalls with horror the memorable day when she saw Bush reveal his true form: a humanoid lizard. For the sex slaves do not exist only to provide pleasure to their masters.

The Illuminati Reptiloids require human DNA, obtained through acts of sex and vampirism, to retain their human disguises." http://ic.net/~celano/cathtrans.html

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....which is NOT what Cathy said...

All anybody has to do is click on the link that "you provided as evidence" to see that she said no such thing.......thanks!

However, HERE is something that she did say.....

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"J. Bennett Johnston, back in Louisiana, was still traumatizing my mind, and confusing my mind.

He told me he was an alien. That was pretty easy for me to believe! What he was doing certainly was alien to my (unintelligible.)

He told me the story about how he had been part of the Philadelphia Experiment. He said when the ship disappeared, it came back a spaceship.

At that time he took me through a high security area of General Dynamics and showed me the then top secret Stealth Fighter!

I mean, here it was, the triangular Stealth Fighter, that I hadn't learned anything about in my text books or read about in the newspapers.

It was still classified.

I saw this triangular technology, and I truly believed it was a spaceship. I truly believed that J. Bennett Johnston was an alien. I tell you this because I know for a fact that those in control of our government will go to any length to make all of us feel totally helpless........

.........my abusers always claimed to be aliens or demons or gods, something that I thought was beyond my realm to effect. And I am here to tell you all now that THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE, and they are subject to the same laws that the rest of us are, and this criminal activity that they are proliferating behind their blanket of national security has got to be exposed.....

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Does that sound like someone who believes in "lizard people?"

posted August 10, 2006 12:51 PM              

We've been discussing Cathy O' Brien and the book she wrote revealing her experiences with those who use mind control on her....Right?

So doesn't it stand to reason that if we're going to be judging her "sanity" we will be going by WHAT SHE WRITES HER BOOK?

Of course....

So why do you say......

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Huh? Oh right, if it's not in the book..then it don't cook, doesn't count and can't be used to judge Cathy's sanity or veracity.

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You got it, Bud!

Duh!

posted August 10, 2006 12:53 PM              

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Just a little side note: That's mighty nice of the Aliens to give us Stealth technology.

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Obviously you didn't understand what Cathy was saying when she said....

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I truly believed it was a spaceship. I truly believed that J. Bennett Johnston was an alien. I tell you this because I know for a fact that those in control of our government will go to any length to make all of us feel totally helpless........

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He wanted her to "believe" it was a spaceship and that he was an alien - so that's what he told her....and with her mind in the condition it was at the time, she did believe it...(part of the mind conrtrol process)...

posted August 10, 2006 01:14 PM              

I know..

posted August 10, 2006 01:55 PM            

You've got that right Isis!!!

Sad how even faced with legal transcripts from Ms. O'Brian, documentation of interviews and collaboration of the events from her wacked out Husband- some still CANNOT grasp that the woman is freak of nature.

The woman is delusional, which has been proven again and again, but the mindless twits keep bringing up "BUT IT WASN'T IN HER BOOK".

Okay.. for semantics we will say that Cathy O'Brian testified, wrote, swore, spoke - words that produced the quotes noted by jwhop and myself.

In other words, when one reviews the volumes of material produced by her coven of anti-lizard, NWO people, they will clearly see that she indicates Bush is a Reptillian, she was witness to horrible atrocities committed by the alien peeps and she knows of the alien technology.

BUT... she cannot prove any of it NOR has there ever been a legal document accepted, time stamped with the court and state seal.

Then again, it would be fair to say that those that believe in this twit are under HER mind control.

posted August 10, 2006 01:56 PM            

Cathy O'Brien, the mind controlled slave of the United States government for more than 25 years, which she details in her astonishing book, Trance Formation Of America, written with Mark Phillips. She was sexually abused as a child and as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most appallingly, George Bush, a: major player in the Brotherhood, as my books and others have long exposed. It was Bush, a paedophile and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy's daughter, Kelly O'Brien, as a toddler before her mother's courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control programme known as Project Monarch. Cathy writes in Trance Formation Of America of how George Bush was sitting in front of her in his office in Washington DC when, he opened a book at a page depicting "lizard-like aliens fro m a far off, deep space place." Bush then claimed to be an 'alien' himself and appeared, before her eyes, to transform 'like a chameleon' into a reptile http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/posers4.html

O'Brien, it turns out, was a "Presidential Model" slave. Her customers included George Bush, Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton. "Hillary knew I was a mind-controlled slave," she reports, commenting on their first meeting, "and, like Bill Clinton, just took it in stride as a 'normal' part of life in politics."And she recalls with horror the memorable day when she saw Bush reveal his true form: a humanoid lizard.For the sex slaves do not exist only to provide pleasure to their masters. The Illuminati Reptiloids require human DNA, obtained through acts of sex and vampirism, to retain their human disguises.Then again, perhaps this is not so. O'Brien elsewhere indicates Bush may have simply used a holographic projector to create the illusion that he was a lizard-like alien. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1493414

Now Rainbow, for your information, I copied and pasted the header for Cathy's little talk...and the part about Bush being a humanoid reptilian from exactly the same page and then copied and pasted the link to that page. So perhaps someone is playing games with the text but it's not me.

I have better things to do with my time than put words in the mouth of a woman whom I believe has already made sufficient allegations to have her declared clinically insane. She didn't need any help from me.

posted August 10, 2006 03:10 PM              

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Now Rainbow, for your information, I copied and pasted the header for Cathy's little talk...and the part about Bush being a humanoid reptilian from exactly the same page and then copied and pasted the link to that page. So perhaps someone is playing games with the text but it's not me.

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I believe you think you did, jwhop.....but all anybody's got to do is click on that page to see that it's not there...so it doesn't even look like someone is playing games with the text...*sigh*

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jwhop goes on to quote....

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...she witnessed (among others) George Bush physically shapeshift into a Reptilian alien being. She rationalised this as potentially being a holographic illusion as part of her mind control programming.

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A holograph is different from seeing a "real" lizard! She knew he wasn't a damn lizard!

also from your post...

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Bush then claimed to be an 'alien' himself....

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There's your key word - "CLAIMED" She never said bush was an alien...

... she never tried to tell anyone, there were "lizard people" in the NWO conspiracy.........I realize that David Icke does, but David is NOT Cathy!

When will you people realize that they were ALL TRYING TO CONVINCE HER THAT THEY WERE ALIENS...but she WASN'T buying it! Damn!

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Okay....what is THIS link supposed to mean?
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/posers4.html

That there are people who believe in "lizard people?"

Not news to me jwhop...

I've known for a long time that there are people who believe in shape shifting lizard people....

....but Cathy is not one of them....

....so I don't know what you're trying to prove by posting that link....

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Now jwhop....lest you think I was calling you a name when I said "bonehead" it wasn't really....think of it as a "term of endearment."

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posted August 10, 2006 03:27 PM              

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In other words, when one reviews the volumes of material produced by her coven of anti-lizard, NWO people, they will clearly see that she indicates Bush is a Reptillian, she was witness to horrible atrocities committed by the alien peeps and she knows of the alien technology.

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Volumes of material produced by her coven of anti-lizard, NWO people?

.....and Who might THEY be?

........and if anyone reads the book as I did...not once - but twice...

.....they will NOT "clearly see that she indicates Bush is a Reptillian, she was witness to horrible atrocities committed by the alien peeps and she knows of the alien technology."

....simply because it is not true...

She never said it......so I don't know how anyone could "clearly" see it....

You're looking foolish again, Pid....

posted August 10, 2006 03:31 PM            

Oh puhleeze.... once again, a mindless freak with mental issues is duping the mindless few into buying her books and making a joke out of those that believe it.

This thread should be listed under "humor" .

posted August 10, 2006 05:45 PM              

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This thread should be listed under "humor"

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posted August 10, 2006 08:42 PM            

IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT WINDBAG? You sure have a thing for this Barney Fife guy don't you? What's the matter Stainblow, are you jealous because I am able to articulate what's on my mind and take control over various situations?

You act like that is a bad thing. Hey, you're the sheep not me. I prefer to know what's going on and take control if I see something lagging- which is why I will never be in your pathetic situation, in other words, I'll never have to live your delusional life where people write books (claiming to be non-fiction) about President's being aliens. LMAO..

Keep on a rolling Tumbleweed.

PS... you keep calling me Barney- you've stated what you think of this Barney character, which has all been negative- that is the same, dear Stainblow, as calling someone a name.

For example, if I called you Hitler's yesman- I am actually saying you are the equivalent of a snively, little anti-semite.

But, unlike you (the queen of all that is manipulative and sneaky) I don't hide behind another person's word or character.

I'm honest and you're a pathetic Liar...

Now, back to the task at hand.. DO you have any proof that what Ms. Mental Patient O'Brian says is true? Or is it just because she posted her "theories" in a book?

You make me laugh.. you SHOULD be a comedian (Should is a suggestive word- if I had said you HAVE to become a comedian that would be a demand).

posted August 11, 2006 06:39 PM            

Those classified programs "were important for us to be able to confront an enemy in time of war," Santorum said. "When people leak that kind of information, to me, that is traitorous activity."

Santorum, the No. 3 Senate Republican, acknowledged that he did not know whether classified programs recently brought to light by leaks, such as a National Security Agency warrantless wiretapping program, were involved in heading off the alleged terrorist plan to smuggle explosive components onto passenger jets.

The Bush administration has harshly criticized reports that revealed the existence of the warrantless wiretap program as well as another secret government initiative that accesses a huge databank of bank records.

"I think it is vitally important for us to understand that the compromises that have been made of American intelligence over the last few months were serious and that the traitors within the intelligence community who leaked that information, for whatever purposes, must be pursued aggressively," Santorum said.