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pidaua
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posted October 10, 2006 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS Rainbow, I understand how you love to twist and turn things, but please, if you are going to quote me, get it right instead of misrepresenting my words


I said "You are entitled to your opinion but in time you will learn that your opinion will warrant comments and in various cases, specifically those posed by the right, facts to back up our comments / refuting your allegations. "


To which you represented me saying

" I noted that you were warned that "in time, your opinion will warrent comments, refuting your allegations!""

I never WARNED anyone - quit your lying and making your baseless accusations once again. What I did was explain how things work.

A WARNING by definition is such "To make aware in advance of actual or potential harm, danger, or evil.
To admonish as to action or manners.
To notify (a person) to go or stay away: warned them off the posted property. "


I proposed a potential and likely scenario. You are a real piece of work Rainbow. If you cannot defeat someone through debate, you turn around a deflect or outright lie.

Even you admitted on another thread to "rearranging" the wording on a legal document in order to see what you wanted to see.

When will you learn? One never gets anywhere by lying.

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is an outlandish untruth posted by Pid....
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Even you admitted on another thread to "rearranging" the wording on a legal document in order to see what you wanted to see.

That is a malicious lie, Pid!!!!!!


You'd really ought to keep your vicious mouth shut when you don't know what the hell you're talking about...

Now quit with the lies, already!!!!!!!

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pidaua
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posted October 10, 2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what does this mean?

"Rainbow~
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posted October 06, 2006 10:22 PM
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All those words in your "excerpt" arranged in a way to give the impression that they are "fair" and "reasonable" mean nothing, Pid!
To say that is it NOT "appropriate" for persons to be "tried before tribunals that include ALL of the procedures associated with courts-martial" because they are impractical is taking away God given RIGHTS!

Are you too blind to see the unfairness???"


Basically, I posted various portions of the law- as it was WRITTEN and not rearranged.

It was YOU assertation that one could "rearrange the wording to make it appear a certain way".

an excerpt is NOT a summary. Nothing was rearranged - it was verbatim.

Excerpt

1. a passage or quotation taken or selected from a book, document, film, or the like; extract.


You took what you wanted from the law and "rearranged" it to apply to you and what you wanted to believe.

You LIED when you posted my quote to Neptune and took out a large portion of the context so that it appeared I had a different intent.

You LIED when you said I WARNED her when I did not such thing.

You have been caught numerous times and I am getting tired of it. I will ALWAYS post your untruths so you better get used to it.

PS..... What about your accusation that I alleged something about you being older than my father? You said I didn't have the facts to back it up.. better think again.. I noticed you could post or refute what I said.. so ONCE again - you are wrong.


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posted October 10, 2006 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid warns....

quote:
will ALWAYS post your untruths so you better get used to it.

AND I WILL POST YOUR UNTRUTHS TOO, SO YOU'D BETTER GET USED TO IT.....

ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD BE USED TO IT BY NOW, CONSIDERING ALL THE LIES YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD!!!!!

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pidaua
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posted October 10, 2006 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO... I have not told a lie. I may have misunderstood some information but I have not told a lie or misrepresented information.

When I have made the unfortunate mistake of posting something out of context, I will correct it and add that I made a mistake.

Something you have failed to do in every manner. To you the Military Commissions Act means you will go to jail, to you Bush has sent young people to slaughter and killed babies. You constantly mispresent things and post lies / opinions as fact.

You do not scare me. IN every debate we have had I have proved your points to be nothing more than mere fabrication or outright crap.

jwhop has proved your points to be BS. Isis has proved your points to be BS and many others.. but hey, I guess we're all apart of that green man / lizard people conspiracy and yet you have the super-power to see through it all.

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
god oh god.....this is like trying to explain something to a brick wall!

You NEVER get anything thru your thick head, Pid!

It's difficult to believe that You actually could NOT COMPREHEND what I meant, when I said.....

quote:
All those words in your "excerpt" arranged in a way to give the impression that they are "fair" and "reasonable" mean nothing, Pid!
To say that is it NOT "appropriate" for persons to be "tried before tribunals that include ALL of the procedures associated with courts-martial" because they are impractical is taking away God given RIGHTS!

I'll see if I can get out my BIG BLOCK LETTERS, and also try to draw some pictures for you, once again...(god how exasperating!!!) I think a kintergartener could figure it out!

Pid....I DID NOT mean that YOU rearranged anything in that excerpt.....(duh!)

What I meant was that the wording in that excerpt, was arranged in such a way as to persuade one to believe that what was said there WOULD BE HONORED!

....therefore even tho arranged in nicely flowing "understandable" words that anybody could understand..(therefore NOT literally "rearranged") it did not necessarily REALLY mean that - it is the way procedures would necessarily be followed, thereby indicating that perhaps there might be some deception involved in the easy to understand wording.....

If' it's too much for you.....don't even try to understand.....just go ahead and misread and misunderstand things as you've been doing all along.....

This is an exercise in futility, so I give up!

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neptune5
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posted October 10, 2006 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you rainbow for your kind message, and pid thanks again for your comment as well, its truthful and I like to keep it real and hear honesty, not lies, which is cowardice, besides we all need to be tolerant of one another, don't we? Pid, what I originally meant to jwhop by saying he "had to much time" is that he puts a lot of time and energy into the internet, when a lot of the things he says can be written to a type of journalism that he can publicly express himself out in the media or the real world that is not isolated as cyberspace possibly, if he hasn't done it already. What I really mean is that his skills are good enough to be directly expressed, not just on the computer. He's got the talent for it, and I respect intelligent witty people because I am so myself, (being pallas conjunct virgo AC 1st decan).

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Virgo Rising, Sagittarius Sun, Pisces Moon

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid....why are you trying to pull in jwhop, and Isis, and the "many others" of whom you speak into this.....(you did not name the "many others" so I can't be specific about just WHO they might be)

Anyway, they are NOT a part of this discussion........this is about you and me.....

So keep it that way, okay?

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pidaua
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posted October 10, 2006 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gotcha Neptune ...I should clarify - jwhop is also very vocal outside of the forum / lindaland (at least from his posts regarding contacting leglislators and others) I would also venture to say he has a might full life LOL....

Thank you for your reply- and I think you should have no problem in the intelligent and witty catagory. You've got it and so do many posters here


Rainbow -


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neptune5
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posted October 10, 2006 05:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And oh, pid, your post on the 1st page, the last one, in the first part, talking about rainbows habits is really true. Rainbow you can be kind, but you need to stop trying so...hard. And just a side note, you must learn to hold your own integrity. And your posts dont express that. If you don't know now, as sweet as you are someone should teach you.

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jwhop
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posted October 10, 2006 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Bush Glass, manufactured by ADS, Alien Detection Systems

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune.....

You are most welcome.....

......and I want you to know that I was sincere in everything I said to you....

My concern for you too, was hoping that you'd continute to feel 'comfortable' posting here and not be intimidated into retreat....but I can see now, that it is not likely to happen.

That's good....cuz it's nice to have you around....

Hold your ground....and welcome once again....

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pidaua
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posted October 10, 2006 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow -

jwhop -

Where can I get a pair of those? LOL...

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 06:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune says....

quote:
And oh, pid, your post on the 1st page, the last one, in the first part, talking about rainbows habits is really true

Could you please clarify that, Neptune, so that I may address it and be specific???

Thank you...


PS....I have a Pisces Moon too, as well as a Pisces Venus and Pisces Saturn, so with that stellium, it was a no brainer to figure out that someone with "Neptune" as part of their name, undoubtedly had a bit of Pisces as part of their make-up.....and so THAT is another reason I was so ready to see to it that you'd feel as comfortable as possible here....

Interesting how astrology plays into things, isn't it?

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jwhop
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posted October 10, 2006 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm Pid, you might try contacting:

Bush Distributors, LLC
1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Washington, D.C.

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Rainbow~
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posted October 10, 2006 10:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The comment keeps knawing at me...you know....the one about "rainbow's habits.."


I think I should tell you Neptune, that when I was composing the post that started with.....

"You are most welcome......" (which was very sincere and from my heart....)

...I was not yet aware of your post to Pid saying.....

quote:
And oh, pid, your post on the 1st page, the last one, in the first part, talking about rainbows habits is really true

cuz had I seen this first, I likely would not have been "so sweet," (despite your assuring me that I am....) but rather would have tried to get to the bottom of that remark....I always like the air clear...

Misunderstandings can be so nasty! Don'tcha think?


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DayDreamer
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posted October 10, 2006 10:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune how old are you? If im not mistaken I thought you were born in 1990?

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pidaua
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posted October 11, 2006 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uh oh Neptune... here it goes.. LMAO.... no worries, being on her bad side ain't so bad - it's quite funny to watch her argue by herself and not make much sense.


DD- are you just curious or waiting to use her age against her? I'm just curious.

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neptune5
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posted October 11, 2006 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow, simply what I meant by "your habits" is that I was agreeing to pid saying your posts exhibt that you might be quite desperate for attention, i won't confirm if thats 100% true because as all of you (knowflakes) should "know" that practically, the internet can never confirm anything to a full degree.

And pid, your posts are also quite humorous.

And daydreamer, you thought correct, I was born 1990. But i'm sure know astrologically that Virgo (& Gemini) rising with saturn/5th/capricorn cusp (mostly 1st & 2nd decane with 1st decane being ruled by mercury & 2nd decane being ruled by Saturn) look, perceive, and judge the world through adult eyes, and i'm sure you know that it would not be possible for you to use (as pid says) this against anyone or myself in a selfish or self-productive way because my intelligence and personal power is too keen, intuitive, and practical for you or anyone else to do so.

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pidaua
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posted October 11, 2006 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Neptune LOL.. I try to make people laugh and do enjoy some of the more outlandish names that I come up with - mostly because they could never be true (but sadly some "have" been true).

I never would have thought of you as 15 years old (almost 16 since you are a Saggie). Good for you!!! You're bright and funny at the same time- which is not an easy combination. Women will hate you and men will fear you!! (wait... actually only weak-willed women will hate you and strong men / women will enjoy your conversation). LOL...

I am sure you are even more charming in person with that Venus conjunct Sun in Sagittarius.. I saw that because .. I know I am and I have the same aspect LOL..

I know you are appreciating this humor. LOL..

I did respond to your IC / 4th question in Astrology. You and I share similar aspects with the exception being that I was born in 69, so while you turn the ripe old age of 16, I will be on my way to 37 - I love it...

~Pidaua

Sag Sun
Aries Moon
Venus in Sag
Virgo Rising

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Rainbow~
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posted October 11, 2006 06:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune, I appreciate your franknes (or bluntness...whatever you want to call it....).....but I must tell you that you are way off speculating that I'm .. desparate for "attention!"

If I seek attention it is not for personal reasons, but ... to expose to as many people as possible the crimes and crookedness that is going on in our government.....

You and Pid are entitled to your opinions, but I'm not some little high school girl here, participating in some popularity contest...(been there, done that...got elected Homecoming Queen).....

Also Neptune, I've had enough "attention" in my life already to last several lifetimes...as I've aleady explained to Pid not too long ago (when she accused me of "being jealous of her!"

After many years of TV appearances, autograph signings, record signings and fan club parties...

......the ONLY attention I need or want now, will be coming from my two darling grandchildren....Nicholas and Tianna and my two newly acquired kittens, not to mention my very handsome, intelligent and spiritually evolved "significant other....."

.....so there is really no need for me to come here for attention.

I come here for the reason everybody else does...whatever that is......

Maybe you could tell me....

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pidaua
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posted October 11, 2006 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh god... do we really have to revisit Homecoming 1908 ? Hey... message to Rainbow, know the current generation. How many young ladies have you heard here bragging about being Homecoming Queen or wanting to be HQ? This is an esoteric website, at least the last time I checked it was more spiritual and truth seeking than bragging about a few autographs because we sang backup.

Most of us thought the Homecoming queens were easy and worked their way up. Now I know that can't be true for you because in 1908 there were only 10 people at the school and by default you were the only female candidate- poor John boy wasn't allowed out of the closet to give you run for your money. LMAO...

As far as your reason for needing attention

"If I seek attention it is not for personal reasons, but ... to expose to as many people as possible the crimes and crookedness that is going on in our government....."


LMAO.... that is too funny... as if you have a special and divine right to see what other's cannot.

Puhleeze... I am going to fall of my chair I am laughing so hard...

But it just gets even MORE FUNNY...


Rainbow continues with her tee hee's


"Also Neptune, I've had enough "attention" in my life already to last several lifetimes...as I've aleady explained to Pid not too long ago (when she accused me of "being jealous of her!"

After many years of TV appearances, autograph signings, record signings and fan club parties..."


So did Jeffery Dahlmer and John Wayne Gacy had quite a following as well. People couldn't wait to "line up and get his autograph".

Oh well... carry on....

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DayDreamer
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posted October 11, 2006 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
DD- are you just curious or waiting to use her age against her? I'm just curious.

quote:
And daydreamer, you thought correct, I was born 1990. But i'm sure know astrologically that Virgo (& Gemini) rising with saturn/5th/capricorn cusp (mostly 1st & 2nd decane with 1st decane being ruled by mercury & 2nd decane being ruled by Saturn) look, perceive, and judge the world through adult eyes, and i'm sure you know that it would not be possible for you to use (as pid says) this against anyone or myself in a selfish or self-productive way because my intelligence and personal power is too keen, intuitive, and practical for you or anyone else to do so.

Ok there. Just because you're 15/16 years old doesn't mean you can't be involved in an intelligent conversation. Im by no means trying to put you down.

I think Rainbow knows what she's doing...just as pid knows what she's doing...when they talk to each other the way they do.

I asked the question of age because I wonder if you would say the same things to Rainbow, (who's had many more learning experience than you and I put together) about...

...her so called habits,
...that she must learn to hold her own integrity and
...that someone should teach her that if she doesn't know now.

if it werent through a computer screen, but face to face in person.

BTW I do appreciate you trying to bring some peace here

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Rainbow~
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posted October 11, 2006 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your true and ugly nature is surfacing, Pid...

What a pretty picture you paint with you vicious utterances.....

"Jeffery Dahmer?" "John Wayne Gacey?"

You've actually slunk to some disgustingly slimy depths, haven't you, Pid?

Not surprising....

...because you didn't slink at all...you were already dwelling in that ...... foul and putrid habitat.....

....as all the hatred and visciousness, and sewage and silt, and everything else ugly permeated your heart and soul....

You are a sick, sick, woman!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

And yes Pid...I was homecoming queen,and it was necessary to mention it, to offset any notions you continue to present to anyone (who is foolish enough to believe you), that I have to come here "to get attention."

and you try to tell me in your authorative "Barney fife stye" that we don't discuss Homecoming Queens on "spiritual" websites....

....Well tell me Pid, did you consider this a "spritual website" when you were discussing your man's beer can sized penis?

don't get on your high horse with me....


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lotusheartone
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posted October 11, 2006 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow..true colors! of you. ...

as I said..I am sick of your nonsense..
you belong in the other forums where you bring Light

here..you only bring darkness....

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