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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2006 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mirandee (or shall I call you "she who lies on a whim),

I would love to tell you where you can stick your little "give it a rest" quip, but would just bring me down to the level of Nancy Pelosi (and you.. BTW, accuse anyone of altering articles lately? Oh wait, you did that to me and then proceeded to post the same article, word for word that I did.... maybe you just didn't have on your glasses when you read mine huh?).

I am happy you are celebrating. I am happy that Ms. Pelosi (the one you deemed as the most powerful woman in the US... I needed that laugh this early in the morning- thank you for providing it) is the speaker. The phrase "shooting yourself in the foot" is applicable when it comes to Ms. Pelosi. She is going to bring the Democrats down, she will polarize the Conservative Dems against the rabid Liberal dems- thereby causing the Republicans to regain power- BY A LANDSLIDE in 2008.

I should thank you people for choosing such a horrid woman as the voice of a political party. First you have Howard "Screamer" Dean and now you have Nancy "Shrew" Pelosi.


How much do you really know about that woman that pretends she cares so much about the "under-privilaged" Americans? She is just like Kennedy and Kerry, as long as her pocketbook is full (and it is QUITE full) she could give a crap less about you people.

But hey, be proud..... you got what you wanted and the Conservatives can laugh as the Democrat party becomes undone That is my future prediction... We'll see how true that becomes in November 2008

Jwhop... grab the popcorn, this is going to be better entertainment than Survivor.

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posted November 08, 2006 01:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The very definition of a shrew applies to you, Pidaua so for you to be calling anyone else a shrew or a liar is a hoot and you should give it a rest.

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posted November 08, 2006 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Piduau, I think your prediction is a bunch of horse puckey and it's completely tainted by your partisan views.

If nothing less the checks and balances are now restored and now the liberals in this country finally have a voice in what goes on. In my eyes, balance is good. Having the legislative and executive branches dominated by one party is never a good thing.

The republican presidential ticket is looking shoddy for 2008, Obama will take down any opposer, I guarantee it. He's the Clinton for the new millenium.

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posted November 08, 2006 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here, here, BlueRoamer.

As I stated in another thread here at GU today this is like a resurrection day for democracy in America. And as Harry Reid stated last night, " The voice of the people has been heard and they have let us know what we have known all along, that a one party system in Washington does not work."

It doesn't work we have restored the checks and balance system that is called for under the U.S. Constitution and we have let the neo cons know that true American patriots will not stand for a dictatorship in America. Either by one party or another.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to add to the shrew Pidaua, that the election yesterday and the voice of the majority of Americans proves that neither I nor Rainbow were lying all along when we stated the truth. It proved that it was you and the Republican neo cons that were doing all the lying, Pidaua.

Jwhop only hopes that won't things but he knows better. You should know better too if you have half the intelligence you claim to have.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there were a dictatorship in America, you all would have been taken out and shot...or there would be a lot of leftist a$$es rotting off in federal prisons.

It's almost impossible to be that delusional.

I agree with Pid, this is going to be a real circus. Time to lay in a good supply of popcorn and enjoy the clown acts.

***edit, show us your brilliance Mirandee, Rainbow, Blue et al. Exactly what is going to change and how is it going to change?

Where oh where did I go wrong in my analysis?

Is the democrat majority large enough to override a Bush VETO?

Will newly elected conservative democrats go along with a far left agenda sure to be put forth by Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman, Reid, Kennedy, Leahy, Durbin, Feingold, Dingel, Rangel, Kerry and others...at the behest of the fringe radical left and the communists of the "progressive caucus"?

If they do, do you believe they will still be around after the next election?

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posted November 08, 2006 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR.. LMAO.... wow, you are so inventive, do you also employ the "I know you are but what am I" tactic in debate? You're a joke.

Mirandee,

Ahh...sweet, innocent.. oh wait, I am talking to the Queen of Lies. Please Mirandee you have got to stop pretending you are innocent. How many times have you accused me of something that was 100% wrong? Try every time. What was this about the article on the lawyer that you accused me of altering- which I did no such thing. The article you posted matched mine word for word.

Sorry your party has a Shrew for a representative. Don't worry, we aren't laughing at you too much. It will make for interesting events over the next two years. I know deep down you are feeling the nagging sense of doom. That is called foreboding. You can sense that your party is going to fraction apart with Pelosi leading the far leftests to one side and the rest of reasonable dems gravitating more to the right.

I know it makes you bitter. Your posts are full of bitterness and anger. I am sure you want to pretend that somehow the Dems will take over everything and we'll all move towards a communistic world where we sing Kumbaya and hold hands. LOL....

Again, thank you Mirandee for the laugh. You make me do that a lot these days. What would LL be without you and your merry shrews of humor?


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posted November 08, 2006 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid and Jwhop: Aside from the bickering,( you both should be lawyers or are you?) I love reading your stuff. I am getting a total education today. Thanks.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're more than welcome Thirteen I am not a lawyer by any means. I do love the law and politics though.

I seriously was not upset about this election in the slightest. I think sometimes we have to put in ineffectual people in order to see how they are unable to perform.

Historically the Dems, like Mirandee, BR and Rainbow here, have been yelling and screaming about change. They have yet to offer a solution. What happened last night was America's way of saying "Put up or shut up".


I think we all know the outcome- now it's time to sit back, recline with a nice Cabernet and watch the show.

Jwhop.... I am actually giggling because this is going to be so good!!!

Did you hear about my states propositions? I think we sent a clear message concerning Border control and rights for illegal immigrants. Too many of our farmers would round up destructive illegals only to be sued later. Now they aren't eligible for a settlement.

I hope with our three anti-illegal immigrant propositions we see some changes.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Jwhop left out the rest of the scenario. When one party balances the other party either NOTHING gets done, or people begin to understand that they have to work together in order to accomplish anything. We have a chance now to stem the partisan divide, and we should.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday I had to brush up on my understanding of the legislative brance of the govt. and i spent some time doing so. Now all the arguments and points made here are making sense to me. I always feel the dems are so loud & emotional and that shows in their tears of happiness but what concerns me is can they get past that to make real change. Your predictions for the next two years are interesting regarding a split within the party and i will now be watching to see what happens myself.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG, I agree completely. Now finally there will be greater balance. If anything is to get done, both parties will basically have to agree on it, so the issues that are actually put through and made into laws will be ones that people of BOTH parties care about.

The polls have spoken, Iraq has been mismanaged, and people want something done about it, they're tired of their children dying for no reason. And whats that? Only 2 of the house members had children in Iraq, yet most of the republicans in the house voted for the war, surprise surprise.

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posted November 08, 2006 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know BR.. I think a majority of the Democrats that also supported the war don't care much for people like you and me.

They talk a good game, they cry big crocdile tear, yet they retire back to their compound style Million dollar home, turn on their plasma TV and snap their fingers for Consuela to bring out their Hors d'oeuveres on that shiney new silver platter that was manufactured in a third world country but 5 year olds.

Do you really think Nancy Pelosi or Ted Kennedy wants to live a day in the life of a poor person? Do you really think they want to take a walk in that same inner city Ghetto or barrio that supplies them with endless votes?

No, they go back to their campaign HQ and raise a glass of Dom and thank the welfare recipients for their votes - just as long as they don't have to eat block cheese.


Remember, the top Millionaires in Congress and the Senate have traditionally been Democrat.

1. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)

$750 million

Kerry's net worth may not be dropping, but his wife's rank on the Forbes list of the 400 richest Americans has.

The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee's wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, no longer makes the long-running Forbes list. It took a minimum net worth of $900 million to qualify for that honor last year; Kerry was No. 391 on 2004's Forbes list with $750 million.

2. Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.)

$243.15 million

As the Milwaukee Bucks basketball franchise continues to increase in value, so does the worth of the team's sole owner, Kohl. The franchise increased in value by 33 percent last year and is now worth at least $231 million, according to Forbes, bumping the Wisconsin Democrat to the No. 2 spot on this year's rankings.

3. Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)

$200 million

Even though Corzine is no longer included in the annual rankings, Rockefeller - a man whose name is virtually synonymous with wealth - wasn't able to move up from his No. 3 position.

. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.)

$172 million

Harman moves up one spot this year from No. 5 on Roll Call's 2005 list. The veteran Democrat, who serves as ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, has continued to see her net worth soar, increasing from $117.1 million in 2003, to $128 million in 2004, to $172 million now, although that dramatic rise also demonstrates the inherent weakness in the disclosure reports filed by lawmakers.

5. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)

$140.86 million

With an increase in personal worth of almost $20 million, Issa moves up to No. 5 on the list of wealthiest lawmakers. Issa founded the company that makes the Viper automobile alarm system and other devices.

6. Rep. Robin Hayes (R-N.C.)

$59.75 million

Even though Hayes' net worth dropped by $400,000 this year, the amiable North Carolina Republican climbed one spot on the Roll Call list.

The majority of the hosiery and textile heir's wealth, at least $31 million, is spread among three trust accounts. He earned more than $1.1 million from two of those accounts in 2005.

7. Rep. Charles Taylor (R-N.C.)

$56.1 million

Despite seeing his bottom line improve by a cool $800,000 last year, the makeup of Taylor's portfolio hasn't changed much in the past couple of years.

The majority of Taylor's wealth comes from his holdings in the Financial Guaranty Corp., where his wife works and where the Congressman serves as vice chairman. Taylor controls more than $50 million in the company's stock, according to his financial disclosure.

8. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)

$42.6 million

Feinstein's portfolio, including assets she holds with her husband, financier Richard Blum, continues to show strong growth.

Her assets last year included "over $1,000,000" in Perini Corp. stock, CB Richard Ellis Group Inc. stock, Newbridge Asia II LP, Newbridge Genpar Advisors LP, Astar Cargo Holdings, KFB Newbridge GenPar LP, two Bank of America deposit accounts and a First Republic Bank deposit account.

9. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.)

$39.92 million

Chafee, scion of a wealthy and politically prominent family, hasn't seen his portfolio change much since 2005, although his net worth increased by roughly $1 million, allowing the Senator to climb two spots in the 50 richest survey.

10. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

$29.21 million

The 2000 GOP presidential hopeful jumped 10 spots on our list this year, with McCain more than doubling his worth from last year's $12 million. The Arizona Republican's 2005 income included more than $1 million from Hensley & Co. stock, a beer distribution company to which is wife, Cindy, is the heir.

11. Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.)

$19.98 million

The New Jersey Republican, who is a sixth-generation Member of Congress, saw his net worth take a small dip from the previous year, falling by just more than $1 million.

12. Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.)

$19.19 million

The Senator from one of the most famous families in U.S. political history saw his net worth nearly double from 2004 to 2005, jumping him 13 spots up the annual Roll Call rankings.

13. Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.)

$16.92 million

As a newly elected Congressman, Campbell makes the 50 richest list for the first time this year.

Before winning a seat in the House, Campbell held positions as president and CEO of Campbell Automotive Group, president and CEO of Saturn of Orange County and chairman and CEO of Saab of Orange County.

15. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)

$14.25 million

The House Minority Leader saw her rank and personal fortune dip slightly from 2004 to 2005. Pelosi went from No. 14 and an estimated $16 million personal fortune two years ago to No. 15 and slightly more than $14.2 million last year.

That's the second year in a row that Pelosi has seen her net worth sink slightly. The California Democrat has suffered from a downturn in high-tech stocks over the past several years.
http://kasusa.squarespace.com/interest/2006/9/11/the-50-richest-members-of-congress-roll-call.html
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Huh.... yep, I guess they really are for the down and out aren't they?

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posted November 08, 2006 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I gloated, but my team won. Just like a football game-simple as that. But yet, if anyone chooses to look over past threads in this forum, its not much different than the crowing done by the more Republican leaning members of this forum.

yes, all those lovely posts- "Osama bin Laden is a Democrat" "More Democrat Sleaze"
Very nice.

Will it really change anything? Eh, that's debatable. Politics is a game that the general populace only gets the short list of rules for.

This election shows that Americans didn't like the direction the country was going. So they picked the "other guys." Yes, Bush can veto every single thing that comes out of Congress. That will show the American people that he DOESN'T care about the issues the people care about, and will make him and his party look bad.

Veto a minimum wage increase? Yes, that will endear him to the working class.
Veto stem cell research again? Once again, REALLY good idea.
Veto a withdrawal from Iraq (or benchmarks, or what ever useless term being applied) That will definitely speak volumes.

Its all a cycle.

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posted November 08, 2006 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR.. I'd like to know where you got your stats about the number Republicans in Congress and how many kids are in Iraq. Are you also counting those that have children in the Military, as they can be deployed to Iraq at any given time.

In all fairness I think if you are going to post a statement like that, you should include the following:

Number of Democrats AND Republicans - with Children in the Military AND Iraq

Number of Democrats AND Republicans with children that voted FOR the war in Iraq.

So far I dug up the following (which states there are more Congressional Republican children in Iraq than you stated)

In 2003 there were 5 Republicans and 2 Democrats:

"House and Senate information offices said they do not have a comprehensive list of members who are military parents.

The small group of lawmakers who've announced or confirmed that their kids are now serving includes Johnson, Kline and Republican Reps. Todd Akin of Missouri, Duncan Hunter of California, Marilyn Musgrave of Colorado, Ed Schrock of Virginia and Joe Wilson of South Carolina.

For Wilson, three of his sons currently are in the service, though only his oldest son, Alan, would likely be called up.

Wilson, who voted in October for the use of force in Iraq, said he's "bursting with pride" over his sons' service, adding that he expects them to be involved in the ongoing war on terrorism. "
http://www.hurricane2005.com/03/04/naples/d930340a.htm

Here is another article from 2005 that states 4 Republican and 1 Democrat CONGRESS person had children in Iraq:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150275,00.html

In the Senate; (D) Beth Lourey lost her son in the conflict.

There are only 100 Senators, which narrows down the pool if you think about it. They are charged with representing their constituents.

The better question would be, how many politicians in our Congress are representing their home population? McCain voted yes, and guess what- Arizona has a vast number of troops in Iraq. We are home to Military Intelligence.

Nancy Pelosi voted no, thus representing her communist constituents well.

That is how it should work, especially when a majority of our Congress is made up of older people who have children too old to serve LOL....


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posted November 08, 2006 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MK,

That is pretty immature to equate politics and leading a nation to that of a "team" as though this was a football game. You either don't have a grasp on politics or you don't watch sports. In sports the game is won and it is over, in politics the election is won and now they have to work to slowly institute a change.

It is much easier to spend 2 hours on a football field, score a few TD's, kick a few field goals than it is to spend two years in politics making a change.

Yep, I can see why you are gloating, you don't have a clue LMAO.....

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posted November 08, 2006 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, you totally misunderstand the situation.

The far left radical fringe of the democrat party...the supporters of Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, Feingold, Durbin, Leahey, Rangel, Dingle, Waxman and the rest of the leftist cadre...that leftist radical fringe, Move on, democrat underground, dailykos, the George Soros democrats....ARE the base of the modern democrat party. They are not going to tolerate any move towards moderation on the part of their "chosen ones".

You can count on Republicans not moving left to accommodate leftist radicals because THEY wouldn't survive the next election if they did.

Non controversial legislation is about the only kind that has a prayer of getting through the Congress and getting signed into law by Bush....or that legislation which is essentially so watered down it isn't worth writing.

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posted November 08, 2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Pidoodle, I MUST be completely and utterly unbiased and fair in ALL of my postings, cause lord knows you are! LMAO

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hello, analogy.

i haven't called you stupid, why don't you refrain?


geeesh, sore loser.

MK

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posted November 08, 2006 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the contrary, MK's comparison to sports is apt. For many people politics is they're version of sports. The stakes are higher sure, but the emotions of the fans are similar. The rest of MK's post was good as well. Not immature at all.

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posted November 08, 2006 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you would agree..... anyone that reduces the future of a country to a football game is well.... fundamentally misguided.

Maybe that is how we should determine politics? If the Dallas Cowboys beat the Cardinals next Sunday, then we'll increase the minimum wage! If the Baltimore Ravens beat the Tennessee Titan's Hell... let's approve Human Cloning once and for all!!!

Oh yeah, that's intelligent.

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bitterness rears its ugly head....(as usual)

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posted November 08, 2006 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should know "and". So, pick on any underage posters lately? How about rolling a few "bums" did you get the answer the important question of "give them money or no?"

LMAO.... I can't stop laughing at you people. It is too funny... keep them coming.

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posted November 08, 2006 03:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I ask, out of interest, what is the ratio on this board of democrat voters and republican ones....

I just feel that people who are drawn to this type of board are normally spiritually "open" and maybe some are somewhat enlightened....

Are there more democrat or republican supporters here at LL?

Yes....No....?

Thanks...

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Pidiful- this pic reminds me of you

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