posted November 15, 2006 06:07 PM
Now what pushed people over the edge in here? How about a post like this from Rainbow in 2004 insinuating that Bush took delight in the beheading and execution of Nick Berg and equating what the terrorists did Nick to what the State of Texas did humanely to Ms. Tucker- a woman that murdered a couple with a pick ax.Rainbow~
Knowflake
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
Registered: Jan 2002
posted May 14, 2004 05:06 PM
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My son, and some other guys at work, saw the beheading video on the internet....*sigh*
He told me it was the most horrible thing he had ever seen, and that he might have night mares for a long time...
He also told me that the head was not severed with one whack, but sawed off (taking a bit more time than one stroke might have)...amidst blood curddling screams from Berg....
This is soooo sickening...so horrible...so gruesome, so ugly that it almost makes me ashamed to be a human...that other humans could be so evil...*sigh*
(tho Bush seemed to take delight in being the executioner with a record for the most executions while he reigned over the Texas Empire....I was particularly ticked when Karla Faye Tucker was murdered...*sigh*)
Rainbow
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000338-7.html
Because Isis disagreed with Rainbow- she was called the following by another well known libbie here:
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Knowflake
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From: the heartland of america
Registered: Feb 2004
posted May 14, 2004 06:23 PM
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she would not have murdered again, and cost is not a factor. she was more than making up for her crime by the good works she had been doing in prison
the fact remains we murdered her
and you might question why this spirit of murder surrounds you, manifested in this seed:
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And it went all down hill from there....
Rainbow~
Knowflake
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
Registered: Jan 2002
posted May 14, 2004 11:44 PM
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Isis.....
Yes, the article DOES say he can't do anymore than issue a stay of execution for 30 days......and it continues...
...to let the Paroles Board reconsider it's decision.
Meaning that with an extra thirty days, there's a possibility that the board might change it's mind and allow her to live...
It's interresting too, that you call it a lie that BUSH MOCKED A WOMAN HE DECIDED TO PUT TO DEATH....
True...maybe it was not for him to decide to put her to death (and I'm sure he didn't give a rat's @$$ if she lived either.....)
However, there's no denying that he Mocked her, with his stupid superior attitude...
Rainbow
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In other words, people got sick and tired of Rainbow calling Bush a murderer, blaming him for executions that he had no control over and then playing the victim.
Why am I posting this? Because until the people that keep defending Rainbow and her kind can start controlling their actions, they need to stifle it when it comes to condemning ours.
From her first post to me on that thread until now it has been a battle. From her condescending attitude and initial listing of her "American Indian" credits, she was the first "know it all" as she likes to call me. I just stood up to her...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000359.html
Rainbow~
Knowflake
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
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posted May 17, 2004 11:47 PM
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Hi Pid......you spoke of rewriting history in reference to American Indians.....
Methinks it's about time history was rewritten....Hell, we've been the "bad guys" for so long, that I used to have nightmares about Indians coming after me, after watching all those movies showing the scalping, murdering Indians and all the horrible things they did to the "innocent" white people...*sigh*..I kid you not! I had real nightmares about it...and in my dreams I was always trying to convince them not to harm me, cuz I was one of 'em...I was convinced that "Indians" were bad...and "white people" were good....
I was too young then to be aware of how the Europeans came over here and took our land because "might is right!" I was not aware of the trail of tears then, and how President Jackson and company broke promises and forced Indians west on the shameless trail of tears, where so many of the..young, old, and sick....died!
I'm not ashamed to tell you that I respect our ancestors....cuz we've survived in spite of efforts to eradicate us. It was Jackson who said, "The only good Indian, is a dead Indian." Sounds about as brilliant as something "dubya" would say...*sigh*
....and I don't get this...You daid "I only have a problem, and this was not directed to you, with the glamorization of our past and history."
Glamorization?
You must be pretty young!
I certainly don't remember any glamorizing?
when I was a child my dad could not be served a beer in a bar....cuz he was an Indian....He was asked to leave because they would not serve him IN THE LAND WHERE HE WAS BORN AND RAISED!!!
I was once stood up by a boy in high school (a boy that I really had a crush on, and was so happy that he had asked me out), cuz his dad didn't want him associating with an Indian. I cried when he didn't show up for that date....
I hardly think of these experiences as being "glamorous." In fact they were quite humilitating experiences, for us "Indians."
You also said, "I think it is our duty as humans to work to try to stop the oppression of others, even if it means justifiable war."
I certainly agree with you that people should not be oppressed (as ours were in the past, and still are, to some extent!) .... But justifiable war? I think the only time war is justifiable is when the other guy attacks you first...always have....always will....
(and I don't believe it was saddam who flew into our towers...never have...never will...)
Just my two cents...(Randall you said to carry on and boy that's what I did )
Rainbow
When I responded to her post, she commented back to me (because I revealed that I supported Bush)
Rainbow~
Knowflake
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
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posted May 19, 2004 12:58 PM
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Pid....How long have you been aquainted with GW Bush?
...and you're right, I guess never having met him personally, I can't say that I "know" him.......but maybe YOU can introduce me someday, since you obviously do...
Love,
Rainbow
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This crazy woman has been baiting me for over 2 years now. LOL... and she has the nerve to act as though I attacked her? She came out of the box with her passive-aggressive attitudes.
Even when I tried to deflect things and give her props for being enlightened, her comment was...
"...and Pid, I'm flattered to learn that you HAVE ALWAYS found me to be enlightened, since I really haven't known you all that long........but heck, don'tcha be jumping to delusio...eerr. conclusions....
If I came across here, as being "enlightened," I'm afraid my posts have been sorely misunderstood. Good lord, I wish I WERE enlightened!
....I am certainly trying to work my way forward in a spiritual sense, but gosh darn...I'm a LONG way from being enlightened......thanks for the compliment, anyway...
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Oh...was she insinuating that I am delusional? LMAO.... that is too funny...
Ahhh... to be right - well Rainbow - how do you account for your introduction to me and initial attack?
I would LOVE to hear your excuses....
I especially LOVE how you turned my last post around Rainbow...
pidaua
Knowflake
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From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: May 2002
posted May 20, 2004 12:31 PM
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Follow along Rainbow,
I said that I met the pres while attending the cattlemen conference. I also relayed the fact (without having to spell it out) that the cattlemen aren't starry eyed dumba$$es that fall for just any load of crap. So the fact that they asked the pres to speak says something about him.
I must have been mistaken about you and your enlightenment, I think I confused you with La-Tee-Da, actually I am sure of it. So I am sorry to her because I do admire her.
You on the other hand, have proven you would much rather see evil in a person than good without even knowing them. You have proven that you are just a biased angry person that feels "her" opinions / judgments are the only ones that can be credible.
Have fun in your rather one-sided world. I will keep to living in this real one.
IP: Logged
Rainbow~
Knowflake
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From: an enchanted cottage by the sea
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posted May 20, 2004 07:41 PM
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Pid says, "You on the other hand, have proven you would much rather see evil in a person than good without even knowing them. You have proven that you are just a biased angry person that feels "her" opinions / judgments are the only ones that can be credible.
Pid...*sigh*
Look at what you just said!
I don't think that ANYWHERE in my posts,I said that I think MY opinions are the only ones that are credible...but....if you want to be accusing, then I by the same token, could say the same about you...."You Pid, are an angry and biased person who feels her opinions/judgments are the only ones that are credible.."
Doesn't that sound silly? It sounds like children..."My dad can beat up your dad" "Na na na na NA na!"
We are both entitled to our opinions (so far), and they differ.
It's as simple as that...
(name calling and accusing sounds so petty)
Love,
Rainbow