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Dulce Luna
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posted December 29, 2006 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any minute now.....geez. And people are getting a little too optimistic about it. Thinking that somehow it will lessen all the sectarian violence and what have you. IMO, I see political unrest in Iraq's future. Oh wait, that's right! They're virtually there already.

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jwhop
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posted December 29, 2006 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In his Friday sermon, a mosque preacher in the Shiite holy city of Najaf called Saddam's execution "God's gift to Iraqis."

"Oh, God, you know what Saddam has done! He killed millions of Iraqis in prisons, in wars with neighboring countries and he is responsible for mass graves," said Sheik Sadralddin al-Qubanji, a member of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, known as SCIRI, a dominant party in al-Maliki's coalition. "Oh God, we ask you to take revenge on Saddam."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/12/29/171750.shtml?s=lh

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 29, 2006 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im pro death penalty but certainly not by hanging this is actually sad. They should have at least used lethal injection on him. I mean seriously...this is overkill (no pun) should have left him in jail to rot.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 29, 2006 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeeez whats all the insults about...just state differences of opinion whats there to fight about. As if your fighting will change if he gets hanged or not.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 29, 2006 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well hes dead...sigh...wonder who will feel better now, cuz I certainly do not. He wasnt even connected to Al Qaeda, hes a socialist not very into theocracies that the terrorist groups want.

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 29, 2006 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course he wasn't, he was verging on being a secular leader and Al Qaeda hated him for that. And vice-versa.

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jwhop
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posted December 29, 2006 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact is that Saddam committed far more and worse crimes against Iraqis than against any other.

Many, and some in the US wanted Saddam turned over to the International Criminal Tribunal for trial under the auspices of the United Nations.

If convicted there, he would not have faced the death penalty.

But, it's the Iraqi people who have jurisdiction, the crimes against Iraqis for which Saddam Hussein was tried and convicted having been committed in Iraq.

Iraq had jurisdiction, the Iraqi Courts have jurisdiction and the UN, the Hague, Kofi Annan, the United States and the world at large had and have no jurisdiction over the fate of Saddam Hussein whatsoever.

Saddam Hussein has received justice at the hands of his own people and he got far more justice in his trial than was ever granted under his murderous regime.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 29, 2006 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saddam Hussein has received justice at the hands of his own people and he got far more justice in his trial than was ever granted under his murderous regime.

True but i still pity him

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jwhop
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posted December 29, 2006 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And by the way DL, what you just said about there being no connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda is flat wrong.

There were high level meetings between Iraqi government officials and high level al-Qaeda members going back at least 10 years and continuing into at least the very late 1990s.

You seem to forget they were both terrorists, both hated the United States and were well able to put aside their religious differences to cooperate with each other against their common enemy.

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jwhop
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posted December 29, 2006 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"True but i still pity him"

Fine, I have no problem with that.

I do have a problem with those who say the penalty was too harsh, justice was not done, he didn't get a fair trial or any of the other baloney circulating in some circles.

Considering the magnitude of Saddam's crimes, there was no possible way true justice could have been delivered. Saddam could only be executed once.

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 29, 2006 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa, I just remembered that he is/was extremely close in age to my grandfather. Only a difference of seven days between them (April of 1937). Maybe his sun/uranus conjunction would probably explain his strong dislike for theocracy.

Look, Ive kind of had mixed feelings about this whole thing anyway. I don't think death was enough for Saddam, he should've rotted in prison. I'm kind of mixed about putting people to death anyways...creeps me out sometimes. But hey, I guess its what the Iraqis wanted. I just don't think this will lessen the violence going on like some people have claimed on the News today.

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There were high level meetings between Iraqi government officials and high level al-Qaeda members going back at least 10 years and continuing into at least the very late 1990s.

I'm just curious to where you came up with this. If I'm wrong, hey, then I'm wrong. I've just never heard of this until you brought it up.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 29, 2006 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do have a problem with those who say the penalty was too harsh, justice was not done, he didn't get a fair trial or any of the other baloney circulating in some circles.

I disagree with hanging...id have no problem with lethal injection.

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Whoa, I just remembered that he is/was extremely close in age to my grandfather. Only a difference of seven days between them (April of 1937). Maybe his sun/uranus conjunction would probably explain his strong dislike for theocracy.

Hes a Taurus Saggi, this guy i was totally curshing on for ages is a Taurus Gemini i find it very creepy (as does he when i tell him)

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jwhop
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posted December 29, 2006 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saddam's strong dislike for theocracy had more to do with Saddam wanting total control and power within Iraq. He wasn't about to hand over any power to the clerics.

The CIA delivered a briefing to Bush which said Saddam was training al-Qaeda members inside Iraq in poisons and chemical weapons.

Further, the camp commander at one of Saddam's terrorist training camps said when he heard HOW the 9/11 hijackers had captured the planes they flew into the WTC and Pentagon, he knew they were trained at his camp because they used exactly the very same weapons and used exactly the same strategy taught there.

The 9/11 Commission made note there were connections between Saddam and al-Qaeda but no "operational" connection. In other words, Saddam was not a player in the 9/11 attacks.

Millions of documents from Saddam's regime were captured in Iraq. Some have been translated and more are in the process of translation.

The 9/11 Commission didn't have those documents to draw on and they may well have been right overall about there being no "operational" connection but there were a lot more connections, meetings, cooperation than they knew about when they finalized their report.

Time will tell exactly how deep and broad that connection actually was but it's going to take years to translate all those documents.

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 29, 2006 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saddam's strong dislike for theocracy had more to do with Saddam wanting total control and power within Iraq. He wasn't about to hand over any power to the clerics.


True, true. Control freaks often do have a God-Complex.

Oh, and my grandfather's a taurus/virgo with moon conjunct neptune and sun conjunct venus. It soooo strange....because both him and Saddam are of similar build and height...thats why i remembered the birthday thing. The other similarity they have is that neither really look like they are (well in Saddam's case, were) about to turn 70 next year. They look much younger than that. This is my opinion of course. So weird.

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juniperb
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posted December 29, 2006 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just heard the deed is done...

Dear God, please no more Kurds gassed and All dictatorships ceased in the name of Humanity.

Amen,

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posted December 30, 2006 12:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont care for Saddam BUT they could have given him a day to celebrate Eid Ul Adha , that would have been a humane thing to do for a person. Even if he wasnt a good Muslim, all Muslims celebrate Eid (pretty much) and Eids have become celebratory days for all Arabs too.

I think the whole timing of the hanging is intentional, to send a message to the Muslim world--we dont respect your Eid and we dont give a flying fiack.

Even if Saddam did kill so many Muslims that would justify people like myself or DD hating him, not JWhop. Why didnt you hate him ten years ago when he was doing the same things, yet US supported Iraq in the war against Iran? At least Ive disliked him since day one, and havent flip flopped.

And if your dislike for tyrants in general is so high why dont u try and acquit Castro or NKorea guy cant remember his name.

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posted December 30, 2006 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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President Bush called the execution "an important milestone" for Iraq.


I SAY HANG BUSH ALSO FOR WAR CRIMES.

SICK PIECE OF **** .


ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME GARBAGE.


SHAME ON ALL YOU WHO EVEN AGREED WITH THIS.

DISGUSTING MOTHER ******* .


THEY SHOULD HAVE LET HIM TO ROT IN JAIL FOREVER.


I FEEL BAD FOR YOU ALL.


YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JUDGMENT AWAITS YOU.


YOU DO NOT JUDGE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A HIGHER POWER.


JUST WAIT.


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eatbooks
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posted December 30, 2006 01:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um, sweet-

you say the execution is wrong but then you say bush should be executed for his crimes...little hypocritical dont you think?

the way he was killed has really bothered me,
its not right, especially during eid, and being hanged? whats with that? we talk sh-t about the way the middle east is, and then we OK this?(dont act like DC has no control over what happens in the iraqi "government")... I mean, you'd think theyd try to do lethal injection or something....agh, i dont know...this doesnt sit well with me at all...
i agree bush should be given the same treatment as saddam, i think bush is worse...if not the same...bush should be on trial for war crimes...


the world makes me sick.
this is why ive been avoiding the news....

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Sweet Stars
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posted December 30, 2006 02:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After this my hate has grown so much for him that I wish him a horrible death. He is also a war criminal and deserves to be killed.


Hang NAZI BUSH and Cheney.


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Sweet Stars
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posted December 30, 2006 02:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To bad a grenade that was thrown at Bush once when he was giving a speech didn't go off right here in the U.S.


I hope someone kills him.

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eatbooks
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posted December 30, 2006 02:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bush has killed way more iraqis than saddam ever did.

while were at it lets go after all the leaders of the world, like somehow the western countries are devoid of blood on their hands....


political BS.

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Sweet Stars
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posted December 30, 2006 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was with my boyfriend and when I came home I read the news.

I felt very sick.


I never talk to my boyfriend about political **** but I told him they hung him already and he said don't think about it.

I just get sad because I think of my father.

I pray for the day that someone kills Nazi Bush and Cheney.

I won't be surprised if they have secret satanic temples in their homes.

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peace
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posted December 30, 2006 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey this maybe a little creepy.What if they didn't kill the real Saddam,and they used a look alike. They didn't bother to show the entire recording.

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posted December 30, 2006 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:::I think the whole timing of the hanging is intentional, to send a message to the Muslim world--we dont respect your Eid and we dont give a flying fiack.

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oh , thats serious exaggetration!

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 30, 2006 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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while were at it lets go after all the leaders of the world, like somehow the western countries are devoid of blood on their hands....


Oh I know right....because they're somehow Christ-like superheros that save the people from the "evil" east.
All in all I don't trust their intentions for such wars, because 99.9% of the time its usually for their own capitalist interests.

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