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jwhop
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posted December 30, 2006 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM
New video reveals
real torture scandal
Saddam's daily horrors make America's
Abu Ghraib abuses seem almost trivial
Posted: June 21, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By David Kupelian
WorldNetDaily.com

The heated charge that prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib by U.S. service personnel was somehow equivalent to that perpetrated by Saddam Hussein – a notion pervasive in the Muslim world and epitomized in the West by Sen. Edward Kennedy's remark that "we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video.

Screened for reporters last week by Washington's American Enterprise Institute, the 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.

However, only a handful of reporters showed up to see the new video, and even fewer reported on it.

One journalist present was New York Post's Washington bureau chief Deborah Orin, who wrote of "savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises." Iraqi prisoner beaten by Saddam's torturers (AEI video)

Noting that "Saddam's henchmen took the videos as newsreels to document their deeds in honor of their leader," Orin added, "but these awful images didn't show up on American TV news."

In fact, Orin mulled, why did no U.S. media "air the videos of Nick Berg and Wall Street Journal reporter Danny Pearl getting decapitated, or of U.S. contractors in Fallujah getting torn limb from limb by al-Qaida operatives," and yet gave saturation coverage, including endless photos, of Iraqi prisoners being abused by U.S. troops at Abu Ghraib.

For that matter, why did no U.S. media air images of American hostage Paul M. Johnson Jr. being beheaded earlier this week by his terrorist captors in Saudi Arabia? http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39032

"Because most [journalists] want Bush to lose," AEI scholar Michael Ledeen, who helped put on the video screening event, told Orin.

The sustained fever-pitch publicity over the abuses at Abu Ghraib has included only occasional oblique references to what transpired at the prison under Saddam Hussein's rule. Saddam's henchmen amputating fingers of Iraqi victim (AEI video)

"Under Saddam Hussein," the AEI website said of Abu Ghraib, "some thirty thousand people were executed there, and countless more were tortured and mutilated, returning to Iraqi society as visible evidence of the brutality of Baathist rule instead of being lost to the anonymity of mass graves." Amputation complete (AEI video)

Present at the screening event were four victims of Saddam's torture. They, along with three other merchants living and working in Baghdad, each had their right hands amputated during Saddam's reign. Fortunately, all seven came to the United States for medical attention and received state-of-the-art prosthetic hands. Four of them spoke at the AEI event, alongside the screening of the video documenting Saddam's horrors.

Culture of torture

Putting the U.S. military's abuses of Abu Ghraib into better context is a recent document from the State Department's Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Here's what the official December 2002 report said about the scope and extent of Saddam's abuse of Iraq's population.

"In 1979, immediately upon coming to power, Saddam Hussein silenced all political opposition in Iraq and converted his one-party state into a cult of personality. Over the more than 20 years since then, his regime has systematically executed, tortured, imprisoned, raped, terrorized and repressed Iraqi people. Iraq is a nation rich in culture with a long history of intellectual and scientific achievement. Yet Saddam Hussein has silenced its scholars and doctors, as well as its women and children.

"Iraqi dissidents are tortured, killed or disappear in order to deter other Iraqi citizens from speaking out against the government or demanding change. A system of collective punishment tortures entire families or ethnic groups for the acts of one dissident. Women are raped and often videotaped during rape to blackmail their families. Citizens are publicly beheaded, and their families are required to display the heads of the deceased as a warning to others who might question the politics of this regime.

"Saddam Hussein was also the first leader to use chemical weapons against his own population, silencing more than 60 villages and 30,000 citizens with poisonous gas. Between 1983 and 1988 alone, he murdered more than 30,000 Iraqi citizens with mustard gas and nerve agents. Several international organizations claim that he killed more than 60,000 Iraqi citizens with chemicals, including large numbers of women and children."

'Hopelessness, sadness and fear'

"The Iraqi people are not allowed to vote to remove the government," said the State Department report. (In the last election, there was one candidate. The ballot said "Saddam Hussein: Yes or No?" Each ballot was numbered so any no votes could be traced to the unfortunate voter, who would disappear forever. Saddam got 100 percent of the vote.)

"Freedom of expression, association and movement do not exist in Iraq. The media is tightly controlled – Saddam Hussein's son owns the daily Iraqi newspaper. Iraqi citizens cannot assemble except in support of the government. Iraqi citizens cannot freely leave Iraq."

Safia Al Souhail, an Iraqi citizen and advocacy director of the International Alliance for Justice, described daily reality during Saddam's reign this way:

"Iraq under Saddam's regime has become a land of hopelessness, sadness and fear. A country where people are ethnically cleansed; prisoners are tortured in more than 300 prisons in Iraq. Rape is systematic ... congenital malformation, birth defects, infertility, cancer and various disorders are the results of Saddam's gassing of his own people ... the killing and torturing of husbands in front of their wives and children ... Iraq under Saddam has become a hell and a museum of crimes."

The State Department report continues: "Under Saddam Hussein's orders, the security apparatus in Iraq routinely and systematically tortures its citizens. Beatings, rape, breaking of limbs and denial of food and water are commonplace in Iraqi detention centers. Saddam Hussein's regime has also invented unique and horrific methods of torture including electric shocks to a male's genitals, pulling out fingernails, suspending individuals from rotating ceiling fans, dripping acid on a victim's skin, gouging out eyes, and burning victims with a hot iron or blowtorch."

Why didn't more Iraqis complain? Possibly because of Saddam's decree in 2000 authorizing the government to amputate the tongues of citizens who criticize him or his government. The AEI video depicts one such tongue amputation, using a razor blade while the tongue is held with tweezers.

The following, according to the State Department report, were routine in Iraq during Saddam Hussein's rule:

Medical experimentation

Beatings

Crucifixion

Hammering nails into the fingers and hands

Amputating sex organs or breasts with an electric carving knife

Spraying insecticides into a victim's eyes

Branding with a hot iron

Committing rape while the victim's spouse is forced to watch

Pouring boiling water into the victim's rectum

Nailing the tongue to a wooden board

Extracting teeth with pliers

Using bees and scorpions to sting naked children in front of their parents

Saddam also routinely tortured and murdered women. The daily newspaper "Babel," owned by Uday, Hussein's eldest son, contained a public admission on Feb. 13, 2001 of beheading women who were suspected of prostitution.

The Iraqi Women's League in Damascus, Syria, described this practice as follows: "Under the pretext of fighting prostitution, units of 'Feda'iyee Saddam,' the paramilitary organization led by Uday, have beheaded in public more than 200 women all over the country, dumping their severed heads at their families' doorsteps. Many of the victims were innocent professional women, including some who were suspected of being dissidents."

'Too awful to show'

Why, asks Orin, does the world see "photos of U.S. interrogators using dogs to scare prisoners at Abu Ghraib, but not the footage of Saddam's prisoners getting fed – alive – to Doberman pinschers on Saddam's watch"?

Besides the obvious role of partisan politics in an election year, Orin points to another factor: the fact that Saddam's tortures, like al-Qaida's, are so horrible that they're unbearable to watch, almost too atrocious to describe in words.

But the result of this, notes Orin, is that the media's unbalanced coverage is "worse than creating moral equivalence between Saddam's tortures and prisoner abuse by U.S. troops. It's that we do far more to highlight our own wrongdoings precisely because they are less appalling. ...

"We highlight U.S. prisoner abuse because the photos aren't too offensive to show. We downplay Saddam's abuse precisely because it's far worse – so we can't use the photos. And that sets the stage for remarks like Sen. Ted Kennedy's claim that Saddam's torture chambers have reopened under 'U.S. management.'"

Friday, Kennedy and others who morally equate U.S. leadership with Saddam Hussein were joined by one more superstar – pop music icon Madonna – who declared that President Bush and Saddam "are both behaving in an irresponsible manner." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3819507.stm

"Reporters," concludes Orin, "have to face up to the fact that right now, if we highlight the wrongs that Americans commit but not – out of squeamishness – the far worse horrors committed by others, we become propaganda tools for the other side."

***Note, consider yourselves warned!!
Readers may view the video on the AEI website, but caution is advised. The video is extremely graphic and disturbing, and definitely unsuitable for children. http://www.aei.org/events/eventID.844,filter.all/event_detail.asp


David Kupelian is vice president and managing editor of WorldNetDaily.com and Whistleblower magazine, and author of the best-selling book, "The Marketing of Evil: How Radicals, Elitists, and Pseudo-Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguised as Freedom." He is a dynamic speaker and has been featured on Fox News, MSNBC, CBN and many other media outlets.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045

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Friday, Kennedy and others who morally equate U.S. leadership with Saddam Hussein were joined by one more superstar – pop music icon Madonna – who declared that President Bush and Saddam "are both behaving in an irresponsible manner."

HANG NAZI BUSH

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posted December 30, 2006 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before:

http://www.liveleak.com/saddam1.html


Video of his body:

http://www.liveleak.com/saddam3.html

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posted December 30, 2006 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my. Violence?


And Nazi Bush claimed last night that Saddam's execution would end violence.


Wrong again Hitler Jr.


Bombings kill at least 68 in Iraq

By LAUREN FRAYER, Associated Press Writer 49 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Bombings killed at least 68 people in
Iraq on Saturday, including one planted on a minibus that exploded in a fish market in a mostly Shiite town south of Baghdad.
ADVERTISEMENT

The attacks came hours after
Saddam Hussein was hanged in Baghdad for ordering the killings of 148 Shiites in the city of Dujail in 1982. Despite concerns about a spike in unrest, Saturday's violence was not unusually high and there was no indication it was related to the execution.

The U.S. military also announced the deaths of three Marines and three soldiers, making December the year's deadliest month for U.S. troops in Iraq, with 109 service members killed.

The bombing at the fish market in Kufa, a Shiite town about 100 miles south of the Iraqi capital, killed 31 people and wounded 58, said Issa Mohammed, director of the morgue in the neighboring town of Najaf. The man blamed for parking the vehicle was cornered and killed by a mob as he walked away from the explosion, police and witnesses said.

Shoppers had crowded into the market to buy supplies for the four-day Eid al-Adha festival, the most important holiday of the Islamic calendar for Shiites.

Television footage showed hundreds of men in traditional Arab headdresses swarming around the minibus' charred frame, toppled on its side in the street. Ambulances and fire trucks pulled up to the site, and a coffin was loaded on top of a car.

In northwest Baghdad, two parked cars exploded one after another, killing 37 civilians and wounding 76 in a mixed neighborhood of the Iraqi capital, police said.

The Marines died Thursday of wounds from fighting in western Anbar province, the U.S. military said. A soldier also died in combat Friday in Anbar, and two others were killed by roadside bombs in northwest Baghdad, the military said.

Their deaths pushed the December death toll past the 105 U.S. service members killed in Iraq in October. At least 2,998 members of the U.S. military have been killed since the Iraq war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

Saddam was hanged early Saturday, after his conviction last month for crimes against humanity in connection with the Dujail killings. Curfews were enforced in Saddam's hometown of Tikrit and in Samarra, both in the predominantly Sunni Salahuddin province north of Baghdad.

Mostly peaceful demonstrations broke out in several towns across Iraq, with hundreds of people marching in the streets carrying Iraqi flags and banners. Despite the curfew, gunmen in Tikrit paraded with his picture and fired their weapons into the air, calling for vengeance.

Police said Iraqi troops arrested 39 suspects with "quantities of weapons" in Balaz Ruz, 45 miles northeast of Baghdad.

On Friday, a suicide bomber killed at least nine people near a Shiite mosque in Baghdad, and 32 tortured bodies were found across the country.

December was also shaping up to be one of the worst months for Iraqi civilian deaths since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

Through Thursday, at least 2,139 Iraqis have been killed in war-related or sectarian violence, an average rate of about 76 people a day, according to the AP count. That compares to at least 2,184 killed in November at an average of about 70 a day, the worst month for Iraqi civilians deaths since May 2005. In October, AP counted at least 1,216 civilians killed.

The AP count includes civilians, government officials and police and security forces, and is considered a minimum based on AP reporting. The actual number is likely higher, as many killings go unreported.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

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posted December 30, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know Jwhop, from what I can remember, your sun is in Leo and Bush's sun is in Cancer.

That's a conjunction.

No wonder you are obsessed with him. I was seriously starting to think that you were gay.

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posted December 30, 2006 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is simply no excuse for the gross ignorance on display here. Especially from one too lazy to find the definition of murder. Perhaps the problem is ignorance so deep you don't know how to spell "dictionary" which you could have typed in the search window and remedied your ignorance...or at least that one small example.
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I pray for the day that someone kills Nazi Bush and Cheney.I won't be surprised if they have secret satanic temples in their homes....

To bad a grenade that was thrown at Bush once when he was giving a speech didn't go off right here in the U.S.

I hope someone kills him.

Hang NAZI BUSH and Cheney....TP


Really eatbooks! From which well of wisdom and knowledge did these comments spring?

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bush has killed way more iraqis than saddam ever did.

i agree bush should be given the same treatment as saddam, i think bush is worse...if not the same...bush should be on trial for war crimes...eatbooks


Really SG, you need to get a grip on reality. The US sent no message to the Muslim world over the execution of Saddam. Saddam was tried, convicted and sentenced to execution by Muslims in an Iraqi court. His appeal was heard by Muslims on the High Court of Iraq and denied by Muslims. Saddam was executed by Muslims at a time of their choosing. The United States DID NOT participate in Saddam's trial, his appeal or his execution. In fact, Saddam was held in an American compound for his own protection against being torn limb from limb by Shia and Kurds who would have loved to give Saddam "citizen" justice.

I most certainly would have been for hanging Saddam from 1990 onward. As soon as I found out what he was doing inside Iraq. Information which became public and widely disseminated when Saddam invaded Kuwait. You can blame the head of CNN news and the other US media outlets for hiding Saddam's torture, murder and terrorization of Iraqi citizens from the public to maintain a presence within Iraq...the price was silence and they paid it.

What is it that you don't understand SG? The Islamic terrorist regime of Iran had invaded US territory...our embassy, captured US diplomats and held them hostage for more than 400 days in total violation of international law and US sovereignty over our embassy. The US didn't send Saddam out against Iran but Saddam was going our way and we helped him with satellite intelligence on Iranian troop movements.
THE ENEMY OF OUR ENEMY IS OUR FRIEND. A dictum which is true and has been true in the foreign relations of nations around the world and will continue to be true.

Don't attempt sophistry with me SG. Anyone who has read what I've had to say about Castro, Kim Jong Il and other tyrant dictators knows I would hang them all in a second. To that list, you would need to add, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho, Pol Pot, Bashir, Bashar al-Assad, Arafat, bin Laden and Ahmadinejad who is now President of Iran and also proven to have been a member of the Islamic radicals who participated in the capture of our embassy in Iran and the holding of our diplomats as hostages.

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I think the whole timing of the hanging is intentional, to send a message to the Muslim world--we dont respect your Eid and we dont give a flying fiack.

JWhop. Why didnt you hate him ten years ago when he was doing the same things, yet US supported Iraq in the war against Iran?......

And if your dislike for tyrants in general is so high why dont u try and acquit Castro or NKorea guy cant remember his name....SG


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posted December 30, 2006 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your astrological expertise is as faulty as the rest of your illogic on virtually every subject on which you choose to put your ignorance on display.

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You know Jwhop, from what I can remember, your sun is in Leo and Bush's sun is in Cancer.

That's a conjunction....TP



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posted December 30, 2006 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dont care for Saddam BUT they could have given him a day to celebrate Eid Ul Adha , that would have been a humane thing to do for a person.

We so think alike...i was just talking to my bf last night about this, and i think its very very very wrong they did it right before the holiday so it seems as if he was a sacrafice. Its very very odd and makes me a bit uneasy.

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Even if Saddam did kill so many Muslims that would justify people like myself or DD hating him, not JWhop

Woa woa woa... sorry there...unless either one of you are Iraqis whose family he killed you have as much justification to hate him as Jwhop. There is no reason why you have more rights to hating him because he is Muslim and killed Muslims. Everyone has equal rights to emotions expressed at the murder of others. So if Jwhop hates him for the crimes he commited it is certainly no one's right to say hes not justified.

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Why didnt you hate him ten years ago when he was doing the same things, yet US supported Iraq in the war against Iran

While ur statement is right...i just have to wonder...did u know Jwhop 10 years ago? Cuz if u tell me he flipped from liking Saddam to hating him because of his relations to US ill agree, but since I doubt u can know his feelings 10 years ago i dont think that applies.

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[quote] President Bush called the execution "an important milestone" for Iraq.


I SAY HANG BUSH ALSO FOR WAR CRIMES.


such as? Declaring war is only a crime under the Kellog-Briand pact...cleraly no one pays attention to it. Declaring war isnt a crime. War crimes are strictly defined.

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war crime

Any violation of the laws of war, as laid down by international customary law and certain international treaties. At the end of World War II, the part of the London Agreement signed by the U.S., Britain, the Soviet Union, and France established three categories of war crime: conventional war crimes (including murder, ill treatment, or deportation of the civilian population of occupied territories), and crimes against humanity (political, racial, or religious persecution against any civilian population). The charter also provided for an international military tribunal to try major Axis war criminals. It further stated that a defendant's position as head of state would not free him from accountability, nor would having acted on orders or out of military necessity. German and Japanese war criminals were tried before Allied tribunals in Nürnberg and Tokyo in 1945–46 and 1946–48, respectively, and in the 1990s tribunals were created for the prosecution of war crimes committed in Rwanda and the territory of the former Yugoslavia. See also Geneva Convention; genocide; Hague Convention; Nürnberg trial.


This is from Britanica. Now which of these did Bush do...?

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I FEEL BAD FOR YOU ALL.


YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JUDGMENT AWAITS YOU.


YOU DO NOT JUDGE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A HIGHER POWER.[/qupte]

you just contradicted yourself in two lines...why feel bad for us all? Judgement awaits all people and they will pay for crimes they commited not for beliefs they had...

[quote]you say the execution is wrong but then you say bush should be executed for his crimes...little hypocritical dont you think?


yea seriously whats up with that?

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After this my hate has grown so much for him that I wish him a horrible death. He is also a war criminal and deserves to be killed.


Hang NAZI BUSH and Cheney


I REPEAT: they are not SOCIALISTS thus NOT NAZIS! Nazi party - nationalist socialist...they dont want to redistrubute the wealth and help the poor. thus not nazis! and like i said please show me his war crimes...give me the orders they made to systematically murder, torture and kill civilians??? Saddam did they found reccords...now i agree with Eatbooks because its wrong to HANG HIM and wrong to do it before Eid...


pquote]bush has killed way more iraqis than saddam ever did.[/quote]

in war...he didnt order anyone killed...he ordered a war...saddam wasnt tried for starting a war with Iran...he wastried for gassing the Kurds...big difference...

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while were at it lets go after all the leaders of the world, like somehow the western countries are devoid of blood on their hands....

No country, western, eastern, southern or northern is devoid of blood...

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I pray for the day that someone kills Nazi Bush and Cheney.

I won't be surprised if they have secret satanic temples in their homes.


now there you go insulting satanists...i hate the ignorance...satanist bible doesnt call for murder of anyone. its more of a selfish kind of philosophy. while im not a satanist, i wonder why insult those who are? and what does bush have to do with them? and stop calling him a nazi...hes not socialist for the 150th time...calling him a fascist would be more accurate actually...

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:I think the whole timing of the hanging is intentional, to send a message to the Muslim world--we dont respect your Eid and we dont give a flying fiack.

what the heck...it was the Iraqis who hung him...obviously they wouldnt agree to it because of Eid and there would be a huge uproar if this was the issue. Definite exxageration

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You know Jwhop, from what I can remember, your sun is in Leo and Bush's sun is in Cancer.

That's a conjunction.

No wonder you are obsessed with him. I was seriously starting to think that you were gay.


what the heck is wrong with you? why do you have to insult others. So he disagrees get over it, seriously man. I get it ur passionate about the subject so why cant you also disagree normally...and if he is gay is there something wrong with being homosexual? I mean dude... and their conjunction only exists if Bush is in the last degrees of Cancer and Jwhop is in the first degrees of Leo, i think Jwhop is in the last degrees of Leo so therefore no conjunction there...sh*t
I mean why the personal insults?

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I most certainly would have been for hanging Saddam from 1990 onward. As soon as I found out what he was doing inside Iraq.

there you go SGA...like i said you cant make such assumptions.


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HANG NAZI BUSH

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Thank Ggodness for President Bush..and keeping this country safe, as safe as is humanly possible!

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Are you serious Lotus?


Do you really like a man who comes from a Nazi family?

I say hang the Nazi b*****d.

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you are making a judgement...

you can pick your nose and your friends...

but you cannot pick your relatives...

you know?

LOve LOve LOve

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He hasn't kept this country safe by the way. Otherwise 9/11 would of not have happened.

He was in power then.

And I'll remind you what happened after Katrina.


But of course no one else would care since alot of victims of Katrina are/were black.


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I'm not making a judgment. Federal documents prove it.


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these are only your opinions..which you have chosen to believe because of the Media. ...

how do you know your statements are True?

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I don't think you understand.

FEDERAL DOCUMENTS PROVE IT.


GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.


You can even look it up.

All you have to do is go to:

The U.S NATIONAL ARCHIVES


OR THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS

Not many people know this and it's sad of course. They are a Nazi family.

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I believe, what you are referring to has nothing to do with today's situation. ...

LOve and Respect for ALL... .

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It does.

The man has started 2 wars with Iraq and Afghanistan. His father started a war with Iraq.


The Nazi's also started a war.


Definitely related if you ask me.


They are evil power hungry Nazis, all from the same family.


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Clearly missing the point where i said 10 times that Bush isnt a SOCIALIST and thus not a Nazi was unclear...okay last time...

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National Socialism

Totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of Germany's Nazi Party (1920–45). Its roots lay in the tradition of Prussian militarism and discipline and German Romanticism, which celebrated a mythic past and proclaimed the rights of the exceptional individual over all rules and laws. Its ideology was shaped by Hitler's beliefs in German racial superiority and the dangers of communism. It rejected liberalism, democracy, the rule of law, and human rights, stressing instead the subordination of the individual to the state and the necessity of strict obedience to leaders. It emphasized the inequality of individuals and “races” and the right of the strong to rule the weak. Politically, National Socialism favoured rearmament, reunification of the German areas of Europe, expansion into non-German areas, and the purging of “undesirables,” especially Jews. See also fascism.


sO YEA...Bush not into German Romanticism, or SOCIALISM, or totaly control of the economy. Democrats are more into government control of the economy than Republicans...seriously IGNORANCE ISNT BLISS...

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Nazis Members of the facist National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) founded in 1919, and empowered by Adolf Hitler in '33 (short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei). [link] [audio]

WORKER"S PARTY!!! since when is Bush into WORKER"S UNIONS????

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Do you really like a man who comes from a Nazi family?

ERMMM...who cares what family he comes from? We dont judge ppl by their families...this isnt the royal court

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you are making a judgement...

you can pick your nose and your friends...

but you cannot pick your relatives...

you know?


Precisly my point. My darling sweetest Lotus, always makes wonderful points!

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hehe...

I will never believe in the taking of anyone's life, we are not GOD. ...

we are to heal and rehabilitate... .

it is much harder for one to do this...
then have his life taken...
and learn in the spiritual realm
before having to come back again
to fix his/her karma. . .

LOve LOve LOve

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posted December 30, 2006 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The man has started 2 wars with Iraq and Afghanistan. His father started a war with Iraq.


The Nazi's also started a war.


Definitely related if you ask me.


So did every other nation on the face of this planet...so everyone's a nazi???

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ERMMM...who cares what family he comes from? We dont judge ppl by their families...this isnt the royal court

It does.

The man has started 2 wars with Iraq and Afghanistan. His father started a war with Iraq.


The Nazi's also started a war.


Definitely related if you ask me.


They are evil power hungry Nazis, all from the same family.



If he does exactly what Hitler as in trying to diminate the world in some way then that's enough for me to judge him the same way. Come on people quit being so damn retarded. Do you not see or are you Jewish?


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lotusheartone
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posted December 30, 2006 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is no point in conversing with someone..
who turns to insults to make their point. ...


and you do not have all the facts...


Have a nice day, Jen

LOts of LOve to ALL

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Sweet Stars
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I want you to name every nation.

You said every nation so I want to see the proof of every single nation, town, and country.

Right now.

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Sweet Stars
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posted December 30, 2006 03:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus, The U.S NATIONAL ARCHIVES
and THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS having these documents as proof is enough proof for me.


You of course blindy worship your government so you will not see it.

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