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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 12:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's true, women are way too emotional, there is nothing like a women scorned, women are far more nasty than men, they are manipulative, money hungry nasty itches..well for the most part, hehe, and all they spend their time doing is talking about people behind their backs. ..
Gossip Queens, ready to press the button..
I am a woman, but I don't like them, they have never been good to me, only on rare occasions..
I know it sucks, but men are better, without all the emotional BS. ...

LOve to ALL... .

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naiad
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posted September 20, 2007 01:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
self-loathing is a sad and disheartening thing.

all women are goddesses. we should love and respect ourselves, and uphold the sisterhood, always. there's a reason they say women's hearts are nearer to god.

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silverstone
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posted September 20, 2007 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 01:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is no self-loathing, the truth speaks for itself, look around you!

Woman are not very nice, all the cat fights are dealing with women, face it, we're emotional until we master ourSelves, simple truth!

LOve to ALL. ...

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naiad
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posted September 20, 2007 03:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the misogyny inherent in our culture is pervasive and deep. until women can learn to respect and love themselves, and then each other, war will prevail and strife will continue. we can break the cycle in loving and accepting ourselves and each other....not in criticising and engendering ever more self-loathing and female hatred, that seems societally and culturally sanctioned.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 03:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOve myself, I know M O M, it's not about that Naiad, it's about womens emotional instability, women are far too emotional, do I think I am less, because of this, NO, I am mastering my emotions, but when you feel compelled to disagree, this shows your insecurity, I have no insecurity, I know what women are like..and for the most part, I'd rather have a male friend than a female one, for females, are nasty, and that is just the way it is..there are some of us who are not, I consider myself not one of those women, I have no female friends, I wonder why???
Not really, I know exactly why, women are itches, scratch-scratch..back-stabbing, trying to out do each other..nonsense..of course, not all women are like this..but for the most part, they are more brutal than Men!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

P.S.Anyone who votes for Hillary is an idiot, and will cause the end of the World!

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Johnny
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posted September 20, 2007 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting, Lotus; I tend to have mainly female friends. The guys I know are generally egotistic, overly macho, and yeah, backstabbing and jealousy-driven. Sounds sort of like the women you describe. On the contrast, girls I know tend to be more relaxed, less inclined toward competition, at least with me.

Maybe we're all not so different? Maybe we feel like we're in competition when we're around those of our own sex, so we put on those competitive, jealousy-driven behaviors.

I can totally imagine an alien Jane Fonda observing us and noting all our ridiculous little social roles and patterns.

But yeah, men have screwed the world over for thousands of years; I say give the other side a chance to try it.

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Johnny
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posted September 20, 2007 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
we can break the cycle in loving and accepting ourselves and each other....not in criticising and engendering ever more self-loathing and female hatred, that seems societally and culturally sanctioned.

It's our whole bizarre, fear-and-insecurity based culture, I think. Those who are insecure buy more, are more easily manipulated, more suggestible, etc., so culture has warped to accommodate this. Social cohesion through general dependence, yadda yadda.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 08:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Johnny, did you watch Georgia Rule, hehe???

In the creation before this one, women were the leaders, this creation it's men..
the whole idea of balance and harmony, is the the male and female are 50/50..so I understand what everyone is saying. ...
I also Understand that women know, we a ruled by men, and that this has caused some to be overboard aggressive! Swearing, etc, very un-Lady-Like!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

P.S. Anyone see Wickerman???

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 20, 2007 09:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Err....do you people want your own thread for this conversation or what?

As for all this being rubbish and listening to our 'inner compass' Lotus, I think perhaps you should think about how to recognize true intuition as opposed to fantasy (tough one)

You can just believe in your own illusion.

I'm after the truth, not some fake reality I would be far more comfortable in believing.

I'm out of here.

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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naiad
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posted September 20, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we see in others that which we most despise in ourselves.

(sorry the thread diverged from your path LTT... )

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jwhop
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posted September 20, 2007 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, there's no prohibition on free speech.

There is a prohibition against forcing yourself to the front of the line to speak...cutting those off who are already in line...to speak and then screeching, howling and shrieking so the speaker who was invited to speak cannot be heard by those who came to hear HIM speak

This clown could...on any day or night of his choice or every day and night...take his little soapbox down on the corner and rave until the sun goes down or comes up.

What he cannot do is disrupt an assembly and prevent others from speaking...or hearing the invited speaker.

I wouldn't walk across a room, wouldn't alter my intended path an inch to hear the traitor John Kerry speak about any thing at all. But, Traitor Kerry was invited to speak. This bozo leftist was not invited to speak. He was in the audience upon sufference and subject to his good behavior. He crossed way, way, way over the line.

No one and I mean no one has the absolute right to speak at any time and at any place of their choosing and under any circumstance they choose. That's just leftist bullshiiit.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 04:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ListensToTrees, I obviously hit a nerve!

May I ask you what your toddler boys are doing the whole time you are on the internet? I mean all your posts, all the videos you watch, all this reading you are doing, basically is telling me, you're children are unattended, they are your Miracle, and the most important thing in your Life, go spend some time with them, children are little sages, you'll learn more from them!
The Truth is within, Connect, tap in..then there will be no Worries! You'll understand WHY???

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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Isis
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posted September 20, 2007 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTH Lotus? What kind of crap is that to say to someone? You can talk...don't you have a daughter? And you've got 11721 posts?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I hit a nerve with you too, Isis!?

My daughter's are 16 and 17 years old, they are busy with friends, and life, and we do spend time together, but you know how teenagers are, don't you? Maybe not?

I think all you women are emotional, and upset that I pointed that out, and that I find women hard to deal with, doesn't sit well with you, all I know is, it's much easier to hang out with guys, then itches!

And, I do know some great women, who are not part of my general opinion on women.

Just generalizing, you know!

When my children were toddlers, I never had a moment to mySelf, so I know what I am talking about.

Ignore me, if you don't like what I have to say, this is a public forum!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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Isis
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posted September 20, 2007 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just find it ironic that someone with kids and 11K posts is telling someone else with kids to spend time w/ their kids.

I don't have kids, and I have a life (for example, 1800 posts since Jan 04 compared to your 11K since Jul 05).

I would have to agree that women can be a pain to deal with. Most of my friends are men. And women like you are the reason why most of my friends are men. However, all women are not emotional wrecks.

Sounds like projection on your part....

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 05:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there's a big difference between toddlers, and teenagers..so I am not really getting your point if you are trying to make one.

You can insult me all you want, it does not bother me, it just makes you like one of those itches.

And what about all my posts, I have alot to share..are you jealous? Just from LL, it takes me an hour to get through all my emails from here, everyday, everyday I do readings for people from here..

So kiss my butt, hehe

No emotional wreck here, just a busy women, trying to help people..

I started my period today, hormones,
Laughing my butt off. ...

LOve and Reverence to ALL... .

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 20, 2007 07:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries, Lotus.

I use the computer when my son is at pre-school and my youngest is taking a nap (he sleeps well during his naps). If they were around me, there is no way I would be able to concentrate on any of that kind of stuff. I might put it on in the morning when they are playing to check messages, but not stuff which requires too much focus.....

My eldest enjoys watching children's stuff on TV, and there is only so much of that I would want to watch, if you catch my drift


I'm sorry if I sounded harsh earlier. I just wanted to speak my mind.

My Reflexology course I've started is going to be pretty intensive, so I'm afraid I will have to visit LL a lot less. I want to put my best effort into this, it is such a fabulous subject not just as a career but also for mind, body and soul......

Love & Light

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 20, 2007 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus, what I meant was....sure, some of the truth we need can surely be found within....the most basic truth we really need being infinite, unconditional love, unity with all.

But we have been disconnected from our true source.
I know that we can't go around in a spiritual daze being at one with this source as in kundalini awakening/ transcendental meditation which was perhaps something like the prayer experience I had as a child.

We have chosen(?) to be disconnected.

We are living in a collective reality.

Therefor, all the answers and things to find out about this reality,
I personally feel
cannot all be found within. We must struggle to find the balance between mind, body and soul.

Occasionally glimpsing truths from within, during synchronized moments of true intuition, etc, which are special.

We may create our own reality on the astral levels, but not here. We may only influence it. (Something which that guy I told you about, C.M, fails to see).


All these are just my own opinions, I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

Because we are free, and that's the way it should always be.

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 08:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ListensToTrees, my apologies! I was a little worried about you, and all the stuff you were digging into, but really, it's none of my business..Silverstone knows how I feel about David Icke, and reptilians, so we agree to disagree, and then when it gets into politics, well, I just feel there are so many lies, that it's just best to go within.

We have never been disconnected from source, we just didn't realize we could connect..I Live with one foot on Earth, and one in Heaven, I am in both places simultaniously, and I want all to experience what I do, I want all of you to know, that it's possible for everyine to connect..once the connection is made, there is no turning back, and who would want to, it's infinite source..ask God questions, God and the Universe will always answer you, I promise, one way or another, the message/sign will come..

I am so glad to hear about your reflexology course, wishing you the best, I think it's wonderful!

I am currently on a self-help Gooberology course, lol, I invented it!
You're a Goober, I am a Goober, we're all Goobers. ...funny chocolate covered peanuts!
Yum-Yum. ...Nuts!

SATURN=U R A NUT-A STAR!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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OMG Jay
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posted September 20, 2007 09:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't apologize to her Lotus.

Being a ***** is fun


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juniperb
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posted September 20, 2007 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is T.P in the house

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG

hehe

I disagree, I do not think it's fun or good to be itchy , we all have our bad days, but when we behave this way, it means we have fallen, and we need to apologize for our itchy behaviour!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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carlfloydfan
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posted September 20, 2007 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously a few of you are missing the point

It was an UNLAWFUL arrest. He was not read his rights and not told what charges were being made against him. He did not break any laws and was tackled by six police, as if it was such a severe case that had to be dealt with, with lots of force. He was dragged out for nothing and should have resisted, because it is his right to!

"Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense." (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

"One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance." (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).


And there are more than that.

Fact is, those students should have done something more than just sit there staring slack jawed, they should have done something. They actually applauded as if the suppression of our rights is something to applaud. We have been trained to fear our authority, where as we need to stand up to it when it does not work for the people. We the tax payers pay their salary, they need to work for us, not against us!!

Maybe he was out of line, well who gives a flying F*ck!! This is an attack on all good citizens. In a police state, they make examples out of some to set everyone in their place and this seems to be an instance of that as we head down that slippery slope.

This IS NOT about left/right garbage, this is about free freakin speech! Our enemy is the global elite. There are powerful people behind the scenes, Rockefeller, Rothschild, ect who DO NOT hold allegiance to one country or any govt (because they dictate the policies of many countries) who are selling us out, they completely control nations through debt. They loan countries money.

and what creates quick govt spending? war. they fund both sides of many armed conflicts and often cut off funding for one side for desired outcomes. The Iraq war has very little to do with oil, and a lot to do with bringing Iraq into the same fiat money system as the west. Through credit/debt, you control people AND nations.

Governments can always guarantee repayment too, which is why International bankers such as Rothschild love to loan them money. In some ways, countries can pay back debt in more desirable means than money: Offerring a say in policy...more debt, more say, and the Rockfellers, Rothchilds, and about a dozen International bankers (that I know of so far in my reserach) gain true control. 1913 was a turning point with the Federal reserve, where creation of money fell into private hands of said bankers. The FR is not regulated by govt, but by private bankers. Bush or any president appoints the head, yah, who the IB and their frontmen tell him to pick, cause they control policy remember?

Watch the video on youtube. I believe it is The Federal reserve, money out of nothing.

part 1 http://www.hipforums.com/modules.php?name=Videos&file=viewlinkinfo&lid=73&gid=0

2 http://www.hipforums.com/modules.php?name=Videos&file=viewlinkinfo&lid=72&gid=0

These people, Rothchilds, Rockfellers, ect. are sociopaths and want a one world govt and complete control over people while they continue to live in utmost luxury. Bush is simply a yes man, a front man who takes the fall when people are fed up with policy. Than we elect another shill, whored by popular media, like Obama or another Clinton, simply more yes people, all part of the Council of foreign affairs and another front group to the elite. politics is a smokescreen, useless, both sides are wings on the same diseased bird. Politics are used by the elite to give people the illusion of choice, so we are content and feel we have a say. WE DON'T. They control both sides of the debate! Left or right, simply different means to the same end.

Things don't just happen by chance, a lot of this was planned in advance and is coming into place..again, be on the look out for national IDs, the Amero (a currency Mexico, Canada and the US will share), North American Union, the verichip, and a large assault on our rights, more conflict in the middle east (Iran) to bring that region under the same system as the western world. The EU and NAU are building blocks towards a NWO, which Bush Sr. and many others mention in many speeches.

I have plenty of books that will change your outlook on reality. Seek out Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley at the library or through interlibrary loan. The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Fire in the Minds of Men by James H. Billington. Books either by the elite or their frontmen. Also James Perloff wrote a book on the CFR which is worth checking out.

We are getting screwed.

PS Ron Paul is the only true candidate in 08 and is being censored as much as possible by the media.
http://www.hipforums.com/modules.php?name=Videos&file=viewlinkinfo&lid=860&gid=0

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Lialei
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posted September 20, 2007 11:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you said in UC, Listens:

quote:
The important thing is our heart's intent, that we are trying to live the best way we know how at any given moment in Time.

I believe that karma is something we possibly inflict on ourselves. It is one way to learn lessons, but karma as a total law is too mind boggling to make entire sense. I do feel that it is one way we learn, but there are others.


It's never as black and white as "you get what you give". The cosmic dance is too broad of realm{s} to be so absolute. (often you get a whole lot of sh*t you never gave--the kindest hearts know this so well) The Universe is too broad for any Law or absolute structure.

Any moment we have the Freedom to break free from the mindless "karmic" tread-mill, whose forceful gravity is forever beckoning/pulling us inward to its hub. Being True to our Soul, beyond any interferring influence or energies is a constant challenge the strongest of spirit forego.
As you said, we inflict it on ourselves...when we lose our Selves and allow. When we allow ourselves to be persuaded to think and feel otherwise of ourselves and all we see and know.

It's a matter of not sinking to levels, no matter how much you are prodded or pulled.
Giving only what you would have naturally given of yourself regardless (your Heart's most innocent intent, calmly strong/determined/unshaken)

I know you understand.
You're so there...I feel that from you more all the time.

All magic...all potential flows naturally of
that Freedom.

(or... so I've experienced and perceived)


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