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OMG Jay
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posted September 20, 2007 11:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come on Lotus you know it's fun. especially during the time of the month


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lotusheartone
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posted September 20, 2007 11:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karma,

Until you know thySelf, your past lives, and everything that brought you to this life, today, you will not comprehend what I am saying, no matter how much good we do, no matter that we forgive all, unless they have forgiven us, we remain in the karmic cycle, it takes all to come full circle..

You can master yourSelf, but whatever karmic debts that have not been paid, balanced, will eventually be paid.

Think of Linda Goodman's Life=File...
I know that she is balancing her karma now..
unfinished business, Learning and Growing from the past, and mistakes made...

Know ThySelf, til then, you are searching, when you have found who you are, then you will know, it's all plain and simple..
we humans are the ones who complicate, and create chaos, when everything is very simple!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 21, 2007 05:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's ok, Lotus.

I'm not going to debate about any of these issues right now. We are all entitled to our own beliefs. As the Levellers sang......"There's only one way of life- and that's your own".


Thank you, Lialei.
I am not perfect, as none of us are, but I do have moments where I feel 'connected'. Like just now. I looked out of the window opposite this desk at the leaves in the garden blowing poetically in the breeze. That's how I feel connected sometimes.
Also, I think perhaps I might upset my neighbours sometimes but singing is extremely good for the soul. I've always enjoyed singing.


Naiad
I wasn't upset at you guys talking and having fun. Please accept my apologies. (sorry, OMG Jay)
What I was really upset about what about the guy being taisered.


It is my opinion that he spoke with passion and enthusiasm, but I feel very strongly from what I saw that he did not go overboard. I did not see violence or hysteria, which would be another thing.
I saw passion and enthusiasm.

I feel that we all have the right to get angry, as long as it is controlled and projected in a useful manner, not destructive.

Balance, balance balance

If he did step over the line I do not feel that it was by very much. By no means was it necessary for the police to behave in the way they did. That way way out of line. Just watching how they reacted upset me very much.

This is the reason I put this thread up, this is the reason I have been a bit sensitive here.


You are all entitled to your own opinions. It is up to you individually to make of it what you will.

If we are going to start having a debate, I don't want to get involved, or feel I have to fight to 'force' my point.

Perhaps it was emotional of me to put the title of the thread up in capital letters, and I suppose that this in itself attracts such debate, so I am also to blame

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 21, 2007 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's annoying. I wanted to put up more smilies.

For example, I wanted to put:

Sorry, OMG Jay

And I wanted to put a sign at the end.


(at the beginning, in reference to me apologizing to Lotus).


And yes, chocolate covered peanuts! Sound good to me! Yum, yum!

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naiad
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posted September 21, 2007 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LTT, your answers are commendable and conciliatory. i appreciate your kindness. and i was not having fun with your thread. misogyny is a very serious and deeply ingrained phenomenon that continues the sad loathing and hatred that women have for themselves and each other. calling other women derogatory names for the crime of being women perpetuates this problem, and keeps the cycle of self-hatred and loathing going.

i don't find anything fun or worthy in any of this.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 21, 2007 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LTT, your answers are commendable and conciliatory. i appreciate your kindness. and i was not having fun with your thread. misogyny is a very serious and deeply ingrained phenomenon that continues the sad loathing and hatred that women have for themselves and each other. calling other women derogatory names for the crime of being women perpetuates this problem, and keeps the cycle of self-hatred and loathing going.

i don't find anything fun or worthy in any of this.


Bring back girl power! Bring back the worship of the Earth Mother!

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaos Reigns, on this Earth right now..there seems to not be many in control, control as in mastered.

I am not trying to put down women, I praise MOther Earth and Father Sky at every SunRise,
I am talking about women mastering themSelves, overcoming their emotions, for some are so extreme.

A generalization of, Men need to learn more mercy and compassion, a vice-verse..women must master their emotions.

I think that Truth is Truth, plain and simple, we are children of God, goverened
by the Universal Laws, so it's our Truth,
and it's the same for all, it's just individualistic, hehe, Unique Snowflakes-Knowflakes. ...

Unity, and working together is imperative, across the World, and Worlds, Universes..

ALL for One, and One for ALL... .

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naiad
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posted September 21, 2007 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uh, contradiction....

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women are itches, scratch-scratch..back-stabbing, trying to out do each other..

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I am not trying to put down women...

please, women are taught self-hatred and self-loathing from the time they are born. and continually assaulted with it in popular culture from all angles.

it's ingrained in this culture's programming of females from a very young age. it creates a cognitive dissonance that is quite difficult to overcome.

as is quite apparent in this thread.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Naiad, why are women like that? I think it's because of emotions, so there really is no contradiction.

You are Free to go on with your agenda!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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OMG Jay
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posted September 21, 2007 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the nicest I have ever been during my monthly cycle


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naiad
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posted September 21, 2007 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
women aren't like that. that's your own misogynistic opinion.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 05:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like this one

and this one, too!

opinions are like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, everybody has one!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
somebodys post disappeared, just like magic!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for all itches, hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk58p1jeCCA

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naiad
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posted September 21, 2007 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
words like this continue the cycle. we can all choose love, and to see the best in each other and ourselves...or we can choose the alternative.

i hope that one day you find real love Lotus, for yourself and others.

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 21, 2007 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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women are far more nasty than men, they are manipulative, money hungry nasty itches..well for the most part, hehe, and all they spend their time doing is talking about people behind their backs. ..
Gossip Queens, ready to press the button..

Really? Then refrain from looking in the mirror, hon.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 06:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Naiad, knock it off, with your holier than thou attitude, I have found the LOve, LOve ALL, and have Reverence for ALL. We are all just giving opinions, but you feel a need to put me down, so what! It doesn't bother me, but if it makes you feel better,
continue. ...

LOve and Reverence for ALL... .

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 06:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce Luna, I was expecting your big mouth, lol

LOve to ALL. ...

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 21, 2007 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My big mouth? You remind me of a radical Evangelical sometimes and you want to talk about my big mouth?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 06:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looking in the mirror, Dulce?

Okay, I have to do some readings, be back in a couple of hours. All of you, have fun now!

LOve to ALL. ...

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 21, 2007 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I am, and I see a girl named Pez.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 21, 2007 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PEZ
857

=

20 Judgement

2 the Moon

hehe, fits!

LOve to ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted September 22, 2007 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is it like pez candy?

Dulce Luna: Candy Moon

must be bitter,
maybe sweet???

I LOve Pez candy and the dispencers, hehe..every character you can think of!?

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AcousticGod
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posted September 22, 2007 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I look at the messages put out in pop movies these days, and have to side with Naiad. Men are willing to put out all sorts of depraved ideas in comedies, and the comedy is supposed to gloss over the messages being given to girls and women of all ages. Meanwhile men that are respectful are lumped into the stereotype of men also created through stuff like this as well.

Music is still dominated by men as well as far as I can tell.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 22, 2007 04:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No-one is perfect.

But we can chose to see and bring out the good qualities in each other.

Or vice-versa.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but feel tickled by 'squabbling squirrels' at times!

I'm more worried about the corruption of your police force than any of that. I'm sure the masculine- feminine thing will work itself out in Time.

I'm not saying the conspiracy theorists are right. Like I've said before.....I do not have "blind faith" in ANYTHING. I'm sure you have to look at BOTH sides to get the most accurate picture of what is going on. Just focusing on ONE biased sides distorts this, I feel.

I think taisers should be outlawed altogether. They are completely barbaric.

And I think every gun in the world should be destroyed.
Right away!

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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