posted January 15, 2008 05:21 PM              

but i'm not jesus or buddha and sometimes i loose patience with deliberate provocative and unhelping attitudes. to that some could say :
"yes but different opinion are here to give a better view that one perspective might have missed".
i agree with that even with the provocative aspect(after all i'm aquarius with the moon in libra) but i don't see anything good coming out of jwhop threads. and visibly i'm not the only one.

i don't ask anyone to react to this post as i don't want to create an anti-jwhop post where many people i guess would deliver their verdict.

i just wanted to make sure that he knows what i think of him:
your points of view are totally decadent!!!! and it's a surprise to me to think that someone on this forum can have such a biased view on everything, i thought naively that only enlightened souls would be interested in spirituality. but hey, everyone can be wrong, apparently narrow minded people have heard about it as well.

posted January 15, 2008 06:12 PM            

"i don't ask anyone to react to this post as i don't want to create an anti-jwhop post where many people i guess would deliver their verdict."

Rhetorical questions have their place and opinions stated, yes? But I don`t see this as a rhetorical question. You want to address jw OR state your opinion about him,perhaps a better title and way could be found.

jwhop is jwhop. Take him or leave him. Your reaction doesn`t change the reality of him or G.U.

Do you play nice all the time???

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posted January 15, 2008 07:05 PM              

"Rhetorical questions have their place and opinions stated, yes? But I don`t see this as a rhetorical question. You want to address jw OR state your opinion about him,perhaps a better title and way could be found"

so i reply, did you forget to put a question mark here?

posted January 15, 2008 07:14 PM            

A direct approach works wonders and then it is clear you are speaking to jwhop rather than indulging in an anti-jw thread.

... but, be prepared for his reply

You are a new fella to me so let me say a belated welcome.

ps I was making a suggestion not asking a rhetorical or straight up question. You forgot to add my end period

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posted January 15, 2008 07:18 PM              

what is the sentence again ?...." do to others as you would like them to do to you" or something like that. i guess he wants to be talked like that.
as for me, because you ask me if i always play nice all the time, i'd say i might be biased sometimes obviously, but it's not a rule as it is for jwhop.

posted January 15, 2008 09:03 PM              

Jwhop has been the way he is for as long as anyone here can remember. He's an irascible stubborn old coot, but he's our friend and we love him.

(Ignore him when he gets on your nerves..it's always worked for everyone that's ever tried it.)

posted January 15, 2008 09:39 PM            

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For all the different views jwhop may have about politics and all it encompasses (yes, and including the manner in which he shares his views), I don't believe he's ever sunk as low as creating an Anti-This-Individual thread.

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posted January 16, 2008 08:54 AM            

I have had this happen to me a few times and each time it ended badly for the poster that started it. Meaning, they are the ones that looked immature, negative and idiotic.

Who cares about your sexual orientation p? I have not heard anyone here say that because your gay something is wrong with you yet you are the one to bring it up.

In any case- I hope this thread will die because it is just nonsense.

posted January 16, 2008 09:10 AM              

you're right, call me anti-jwhop if you want, i don't mind.

put it on the account of my immaturity. it's true when i find people with this degree of dirtiness in their mind i can't help but loose my control. that's immature i agree, and i'm here (on earth) to evolve so you see i hear you.

but again i reapeat, this guy's ideas deserve to be treated the same way he treats different views from his own, with contempt, cause he's not gracious about it.

posted January 16, 2008 09:25 AM              

regarding my sexuality, you are putting to much emphasis on one word out of the whole post, but hey, who will stop you? not me, as i said on thread by blkfoxx i think, i'm proud of being gay and won't shy away from it but i don't see it as a defining factor of who i'm, no more that my hair color, or the fact that i went to a state school. so just to be clear here again, i mentioned it once because i wanted to wind jwhop up, just to satisfy my childish needs.

posted January 16, 2008 09:42 AM              

I didn't jump to Jw's defense. I just didn't see that you were being any different than him..other than being very blatant about it. He does it because he doesn't exactly see what he's doing (completely.) He just gets caught up in the hunt..and then revels in the soapbox. There's a very big difference.

There is nothing defensible about bullying people into agreeing or shutting up. Jw IS my friend however, and I accept his ornery a-- the way he is.

It would be nice if he toned it down sometimes, but having taken advantage of the convenience of his big shiny red buttons more than once..I can again say, I would hope he'd never change completely. What fun would that be?

daf

posted January 16, 2008 09:48 AM            

I was looking for clarity on your agenda. It is anti-jw by your own statements.Good enough but.......

Before you continue this immature (again by your own words) go along and read jwhops history outside of G.U. before you decide he`s the holy terror of the new world.

With jwhop, you know where you stand, he will never come out of left field and stab you when you`re not prepared.

If, as many believe, he has a ornery streak running up his tail, I would prefer it to the yellow streak so many others in this world sport

"Hate the message, not the messenger."

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posted January 16, 2008 09:59 AM              

so once and for all, for those who didn't understand the meaning of this thread:

dafremen, you said:

"I just didn't see that you were being any different than him..other than being very blatant about it"

and i reply : amen, that was my purpose. to treat his ideas with contempt as much as he enjoy shiting on other's ideas!!!

posted January 16, 2008 10:30 AM            

Hey, I found something quite amusing. As we all know jwhop is a Leo..

P's name is actually Leo Minor LOL..

'PRAECIPUA (46 Leonis Minoris). While Leo is easy to admire, its modern-constellation counterpart, faint Leo Minor, which rides the back of the Zodiac's King of the Beasts, is not. Leo Minor, the "Lesser Lion," is so dim that few bother with him, and is so unimportant a constellation that no one would think of making Leo into "Leo Major," thus raising Leo Minor's rank. Because the modern constellations were invented long after proper names were assigned, most well after Bayer assigned Greek letters (and to some degree were carved from other constellations), the names of their stars can be a bit of a mess. Only one star in Leo Minor carries a Greek letter name, and that is "Beta;" there is no Alpha, and Beta Leonis Minoris is not even brightest, coming in second. The little constellation does have its charm however, mostly in a flat quadrilateral with the constellation's luminary, bright fourth magnitude (3.83) 46 Leonis at the eastern end (the "46" a Flamsteed number, the only Flamsteed number whose star ranks "number 1" in a constellation). Leo Minor is also one of the few modern constellation whose brightest star carries a proper name, 46 Leo Minoris also called "Praecipua," or "Chief," a "modern" term from Latin telling that "46" is the brightest star. Praecipua is otherwise ordinary, an orange class K (K0) giant-subgiant with a temperature of 4690 Kelvin. At a distance of 98 light years, it is not quite up to average giant brightness, radiating 32 solar luminosities into space, from which we derive a modest diameter (for a giant) 8.5 times that of the Sun. A star of around 1.5 solar masses, once a hydrogen-fusing cool class A star, it is now evolved, and is quietly fusing helium to carbon in its core. The star is known to be somewhat metal poor compared with the Sun, its iron content down by about a third. Of most interest perhaps is how well we know it. Recent accurate measures of angular diameter by the Navy Interferometer show it to be 0.00254 seconds of arc across (the separation of car headlights seen from a distance of 80,000 kilometers, 20 percent of the way to the Moon), which gives it a physical diameter 8.2 times that of the Sun, the agreement with the previously calculated diameter showing that we know the size, temperature, luminosity, and distance very well. "

P- what you did was start an immature post out of either anger, disdain, jealous or whatnot over jwhop. When a thread is started, people will post if inclined. You do not dictate who may or may not post. Last time I checked it was Randall that owned this site and not you.

posted January 16, 2008 11:18 AM              

then when you say:
"I stand by my assertation that you are not who you say you are. Your style is too close to another couple of posters. Then again maybe I am wrong and it is the new way to post on the Internet"

i'm offended. why on earth would i have to justify myself to you about who i am? i would ask you who you are to feel free to doubt that i am actually who i am. how ridiculous! seriously! unbelievable! and what's this kind of allegation, doubting without giving evidence. tell me who do you think i am? go on...

posted January 16, 2008 01:45 PM            

As are all others enjoying the protection of the United States..including military protection...past and present and economic encouragement in that we permit your nation to export manufactured goods to the US on a different..and more favorable basis than you permit ours to be exported to you.

We don't even need to address the hundreds of billions of dollars..in 1940 dollars...advanced under Lend-Lease to Britain, the debt of which was forgiven by the United States...and the American people.

They say no good deed every goes unpunished. This moronic ignoramus, as well as other moronic posters who apparently don't have enough problems at home to correct are just certain they have the exact prescription for what ails America and Americans.

There was a time the sun never sat on the British Empire. People like this moronic poster are the primary reason Britain has become a third rate power in the world.

Funny isn't it? Most of the idiotic flack coming at the US is from those residing in nations formerly powerful...economically and/or militarily....but which are no longer.

I know some here would call that envy...even penis envy!

Get the hell over it and try to do something useful with you life...as opposed to bellyaching about something you are not in a position to do a damned thing about....or about something which needs no correction in the first place.

Simple facts:

If the US had not intervened in WWI, those of you in Britain..and the rest of Western Europe would have become wards of the German Kaiser.

If the US had not intervened in WWII, you British would now be goosestepping, shouting Heil Hitler III and giving each other the Nazi salute.

If the US had not stationed hundreds of thousands of US troops in Western Europe with aircraft, tanks, missiles and other military hardware...after the end of the Second World War, you Western Europeans including you British would now be calling each other Comrade.

As I said, "no good deed ever goes unpunished".

Perhaps it's time the United States get an unlisted phone number...or put the international phone line to the White House on an unmonitored answer machine.

PS...when the posters on this forum get to the place where they would like genuine discussion..and debate...rather than blasting off with broadsides from the cheap seats, I'll be happy to debate and discuss with you. So far, it's mostly a collection of people making absolutely false, lying allegations against the US, against Bush and against Americans.

My attitude towards that remains the same.
Up yours!