posted May 10, 2008 04:22 PM            

The chart shows consumer confidence is down, considerably down since demoscats took over Congress. The chart doesn't lie..though factcheck and you are attempting to do so.

Gas prices are up sharply since demoscats took over Congress. The factcheck chart shows prices at under $2.20 a gallon in January 2007 and at $3.30 per gallon in March 2008. Indisputable...meaning not to be disputed because neither factcheck nor you could possibly be stupid enough to dispute the sharp rise in gas prices since demoscats took over. This after demoscats promised voters they were going to bring gas prices down...when they were trying to get elected to office. All they've done is sit on their as$es, refusing to take any meaningful action to do so.

Home ownership has fallen after being at all time highs in the United States..including minority home ownership.

Food prices have increased sharply since demoscats took control of the Congress. The only people who wouldn't know that are those living at home with mom and dad..those who don't shop for food...and don't pay for it either. Another indisputable fact.

Homeowners have lost trillions of dollars as the fair market value of homes have plummeted..since demoscats took control of Congress. Another indisputable fact.

Inflation is up to over 5%. Factcheck says that's a 10% increase. I only tagged demoscats with a 4% rise in the inflation rate.

In January 2007 the Dow Jones Industrial Average stood at 12,621 but by March 2008, the Dow was down to only 11,740. The S&P500 was at 1438 in January 2007 and down to only 1273 in March 2008. The NASDAQ was at 1845 in January 2007 and down to only 1672 in March 2008. Those declines in stock values represent trillions of dollars in losses for private investors, pension funds and mutual funds. The indexes I listed are the most respected and used stock market indexes stock brokers, investors, mutual fund managers and pension fund managers rely upon.

Any way you slice it, demoscats have been and are still a disaster for America, for Americans and for American investors in all sectors of the economy.

posted May 10, 2008 05:18 PM            

Something else that's very clear. This demoscat controlled Gongress has the lowest job approval ratings ever recorded.

Oh yeah, I forgot I'm talking to the guy who denies Hitler was a socialist...even when I posted the excerpt from his own book..the book he wrote where Hitler identified himself as a socialist.

posted May 11, 2008 04:31 AM            

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I never said consumer confidence was at an all time high when demoscats took over.

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No one said you did.

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The chart shows consumer confidence is down, considerably down since demoscats took over Congress. The chart doesn't lie..though factcheck and you are attempting to do so.

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Consumer confidence is OBVIOUSLY down. There's no dispute there. The dispute is that it is in some way linked to Democrats being the majority party in Congress.

"In fact, consumer confidence varies less with elections than it does with general economic conditions, many of which have little to do with the actions of politicians." - Factcheck.org

I've said the same thing in essence. I think it's safe to say that the only LIE is the one suggesting that Congress has anything to do with it.

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Gas prices are up sharply since demoscats took over Congress. The factcheck chart shows prices at under $2.20 a gallon in January 2007 and at $3.30 per gallon in March 2008. Indisputable...meaning not to be disputed because neither factcheck nor you could possibly be stupid enough to dispute the sharp rise in gas prices since demoscats took over. This after demoscats promised voters they were going to bring gas prices down...when they were trying to get elected to office. All they've done is sit on their as$es, refusing to take any meaningful action to do so.

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"Congress little or nothing to do with setting the price of gasoline. Gas prices rise and fall with fluctuations in supply and demand. Prices go up when the supply decreases or the demand increases. Prices fall when supply goes up or demand goes down. There are those who believe that oil companies are manipulating supply, but if so that's the doing of oil-company executives, not Democratic senators or House members, some of whom in fact are calling for yet another investigation of oil-company practices." - Factcheck.org

Factcheck has their facts straight, and they illustrate that I do as well. Congress doesn't set gas prices. The market causes gas prices.

"The e-mail also fails to mention that prices climbed to more than $3.00 per gallon in August 2006, when Republicans controlled both branches of Congress and the White House." - Factcheck.org

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Home ownership has fallen after being at all time highs in the United States..including minority home ownership.

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I think this is "DUH" worthy. OF COURSE home ownership has fallen.

"Indeed, blame really rests with two entirely different groups: lenders who (in some cases) fudged loan applications for buyers who weren't really qualified for loans, and home buyers who signed mortgages that they couldn't afford." - Factcheck.org

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Food prices have increased sharply since demoscats took control of the Congress. The only people who wouldn't know that are those living at home with mom and dad..those who don't shop for food...and don't pay for it either. Another indisputable fact.

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It doesn't have to be disputed! What's in dispute is that Congressional Democrats caused it, which is a complete fallacy. It's gas prices plain and simple.

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Homeowners have lost trillions of dollars as the fair market value of homes have plummeted..since demoscats took control of Congress. Another indisputable fact.

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Indisputable, but not tributable to Congress.

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I haven't finished, but I'll call it a day. By now those who don't get it, ought to, and those who do get it realize who is attempting a series of LIES.

posted May 12, 2008 04:36 PM            

So, when are you going to break out that canoe and paddle on over.

posted May 12, 2008 06:07 PM            

First, Wheels didn't comment on the charts.

Second, those charts don't prove you right whatsoever as they do not show a causal relationship between the majority party in Congress and the economy, which was your premise.

posted May 12, 2008 06:18 PM            

Those were the charts from your own chosen source. Those charts prove not only that you're wrong...as usual but that the conclusions reached by factcheck are straight out of their ass.

posted May 12, 2008 08:26 PM            

Every single thing I said is true...from demoscats talking down the economy to demoscats failure to enact energy legislation to build nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants...those 2 things alone would reduce the amount of oil we use by about 35%...to their failure to issue drilling permits for ANWAR and permits to drill off America's coasts and issue permits to build additional refineries.

posted May 13, 2008 12:34 AM            

These carping, whining blowhards have resisted every attempt to do anything about producing more energy for America. That's just a simply fact.

This demoscat congress will go down as one of the most inept, know nothing, do nothing obstructionist congresses in the history of the Republic.

posted May 13, 2008 03:57 AM              

I would just like to point out:

You speak of "logic" and "rationality" however every one of your posts is dripping with emotional NAME CALLING. How is it possible to have an open, LOGICAL conversation if you cannot detach yourself emotionally?

posted May 13, 2008 03:10 PM            

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My posts are not dripping with emotionalism.

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posted May 13, 2008 04:57 PM            

May 13, 2008
Dems and High Oil Prices
Patrick Casey

While oil and gasoline prices continue to rise, the rhetoric and actions of Democrats in Congress seem destined to push those costs even higher, contrary to the Dems' promise that they used to get elected to majorities in 2006 that they had "a common-sense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices".

Investor's Business Daily has a continuing series on "Breaking the Back of High Oil", and today's edition has a fascinating breakdown of some of the actions that the Democrats have taken over the last three decades or so to ensure that our country has no defense against the effects of rising oil prices. While doing so, they've made us all captives of OPEC and such tinpot dictatorships such as Venezuela.

Today's editorial in the series, Who Is Really Responsible For The High Prices You Pay For Gasoline?, points out that we have attempted to get Congressional approval for drilling in Alaska's ANWR region for the last 28 years. Remember that the next time a Democrat brings up the "fact" that it will take 10 years to get ANWR on line - if President Clinton hadn't vetoed ANWR drilling the time that it evaded blocking maneuvers by Democrats and got through a Republican controlled Congress in the mid-90s, we'd be in the second or third year of active production from that oil field. Any such domestic drilling would have produced substantial downward pressure on international oil prices set by the cartels - so in addition to having our own new source of oil, prices we pay internationally today would have been cheaper.

Other actions during the past few decades that the Democrats (and a few stray Republicans) have taken to ensure that we have high energy prices include:

For the past 31 years, Congress repeatedly prevented us from building any new oil refineries that we now badly need.

More recently, congressional Democrats defeated and discouraged any bill that would let us drill in the deep sea 100 miles out. However, it's somehow OK for China to drill there.



As a further indictment of our Congress, since the 1980s it has continually stopped all building of nuclear power plants while France, Germany and, yes, Japan, plus 12 other major nations, did build plants and now get 20% to 80% of their energy from their wise and safe nuclear plant investments.


From 1990 to 2000, U.S. crude oil demand rapidly accelerated by 7.41 quadrillion BTUs, according to Department of Energy data. And our rate of foreign oil dependency dramatically increased while our domestic oil production steadily declined.



Under the eight Clinton years alone, U.S. oil production declined 1,349,000 barrels per day, or 19%, while our foreign imports increased 3,574,000 barrels per day, or 45%.

The offshore drilling debacle is particularly goading. Cuba made a huge offshore discovery of oil in 2006, 50 miles or less off the coast of Florida. As it's in Cuban territory, that country has sold off blocks for development to Venezuela and China. Correctly assuming that the United States was best equipped to drill responsibly in that area (thus protecting Florida's coastline), Republicans in Congress introduced the "Western Hemisphere Energy Security Act of 2006", which would have allowed US companies to lease that land in Cuba's territorial waters. The bill was killed before hearings were even held on it.

With the enormous amount of information available to the public on Congress' actions (or inactions) on energy policy over the past 30 years, it should be easy to paint Democrats as the "owners" of high oil and gasoline prices. As for alternative energy sources other than nuclear that everyone seems to be pushing, there's no guarantee that any of those will 1) be a viable large-scale substitute of energy derived from fossil fuels, and 2) result in cheaper energy. And remember the law of unintended consequences. Ethanol was sold to the American public as a cleaner and cheaper alternative to gasoline. It is neither, and the demand for corn-based ethanol has had the added impact of increasing food costs worldwide.

As the IBD editorial states, "It's wake-up time for America. Maybe we should investigate the blame-throwing investigators in Congress."

posted May 14, 2008 05:52 AM            

It is a mystery.

posted May 15, 2008 07:36 PM            

Perhaps it's the Leo connection?

Hmmm, honesty demands I inform you my property isn't beachfront. Madeira Beach is on a barrier island next to Treasure Island. My property is 2 blocks from the Gulf of Mexico. A certain disqualifier, no doubt.