posted November 15, 2008 10:30 PM            

>>For one thing, I'm afraid Obama will just turn Afghanistan into another Iraq.
He wants to get done with Afghanistan so that he gets his supply of weeds in time

>>>Of course, that is what military propaganda is for; the manufacting of consent. If only the people would WAKE UP,
and ask questions about our motives for military intervention, they might save their own lives.

I too believe that there in no war worth fighting that can bring victory. But US was attacked first and reserves right
to attack countries it suspects. Ofcourse the intelligents was all fabricated and manufactured and provided to Bush --
but I look at the positive and that is Iraqis now have democracy. Stability will return to Iraq ,
just like it returned to Vietnam. War is necessary for real peace.

>>>But these poor lemmings, these pure men of action, are every crooked politician's wet dream.

You must be glad that they are not rogues and kills for their own sadistic pleasures.
Men like Gandhis are masochists imho and bad military people are sadists

>>>What are your concerns, exactly? What do you think may happen?
Karl Marx didn't have a proper job and a mutt who wrote 'The communist manifesto'.
It is all gibberish, but people like Obama thinks it is great. America never had
tryst with marxism and communism and therefore never understood it. They only understood well
that the countries with that political ideology crushes churches and buddhist temples.
But the modern generation of americans are naive and repeating the mistakes that the world made.

>>>Wherever God wanted me?
But I wanted you here

>>>Obama, as far as I know, is not anti-capitalist. It would appear that he is proposing what you want.
Isnt the sharing you speak of the same fair distribution of profits that Obama has promised?
The so-called free market of the past, and lamentable present, is what has failed us, and landed us in an econimic depression.

A socialised Europe and Asia too has experienced financial meltdown so please don't blame capitalism. I primarily blame the Demoscats for bringing us to this state. They encouraged irresponsibility by lending to people with bad credit histories
and promising them a land as their right where they can own their homes? Remember the native indians anyone ? Their belief is -- Land does not belong to Men, Men belongs to the Land. How twisted these Democrats are by selling home ownership as a right as opposed to responsibility! And the same stupid people elected them (Demoscats) thinking they will rescue them from the economy mess. And how great they are doing by wanting to bail out the Auto industries - LMAO. It is against capitalism. Companies going bankrupt is common occurence and healthy. Nothing abnormal about it. Their assets don't dissapear and some might be bought over by other companies in the same segmen. And the Auto industries had years to manufacture
efficient cars . Why is it begging from the government now? It was so busy paying fat bonuses to CEOS and now looking for tax payers money to bail out? What the heck is wrong with Americans? Why are we allowing ourselves to be hoodwinked? Our universe is capitalist -- there is no doubt about that in my mind. If your followed my posts, I made several references. Even the buddhist scriptures talks about the evolutionary nature of our universe.

I hope you didn't miss the news where Henry Paulsen who sounded alarmist is shocked to see that market has stabilised. He must be rethinking -- why the heck am I bailing out ? I too was quite gray in my response in one of the thread but no one challenged it. Perhaps because no one read it or read it but didn't understand it.

If the government has so much money - I would advice them to pay their debt. I wonder if it saves the countries affected by the housing bubble burst caused in the US!
Perhaps become energy independent and other things to become the powerful nation it once was. America unleash your powers.

posted November 18, 2008 10:59 PM            

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Men like Gandhis are masochist

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to whoever wrote this...

are u some whack? gandhi didn't derive pleasure from his actions of self discipline. he derived confidence and focus from it.

posted November 19, 2008 01:43 AM            

Saints = Stains = Taints (ana/lexigrams )

Gosh, you guys are so ignorant human beings.

Why do you bring in MLK, Mother theresa and Mandela when I didn't bring their names?

Mother Theresa - Another saint like Father Damien but not that naive I won't call her pacifist because she had no say in politics or revolutions.

Mandela is well known for his apartheid activism and not pacifism.

MLK was a civil rights leader.

>>>then u are a very sad soul to talk to.

Then move on dummy. Don't waste my time.

posted November 19, 2008 01:47 AM            

Be careful when you join the BLC.
It proves you are as ignorant as him.

BTW why do you want to build more wax figures of these people? Don't you have enough statues of these demigods at every square in London?

posted November 19, 2008 09:31 AM              

I don't agree with everything you post, but how pleasant it is listening to someone who thinks outside the box. Never any state approved Orwellian quacking from you, my friend.

posted November 19, 2008 02:53 PM            

Heh do let me know what you don't agree on - so that I can think and learn from that.

Otherwise its only one way.

Yeah, I don't believe in Orwellian quacking too but saying it with clarity. Heh thanks for noting that. Fortunate or unfortunate in my natal I have mercury coincident with mars , so it does appear to many people that I am arguing. I am really not.

posted November 19, 2008 03:06 PM            

Thinking out side the box is dangerous

But yea, I agree finger poking has it`s merits!

juni

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted November 19, 2008 03:57 PM            

>>>Thinking out side the box is dangerous

but it is always rewarding.

u are truly conservative mam -- i could tell.

Actually when you are on the conservative path you become extinct. So no harm carry on. I once heard Meili say "star death" or soul extinction is bad. But it is the most rewarding per buddhist teachings. She is not here and I heard that ages ago. So pardon me for pulling her name in. If any one ever is going thru dark night of the soul -- do not fear and go as far as possible. All that crazy christianity teachings (not what Jesus meant but church taught) made me skip that opportunity once.

posted November 19, 2008 04:52 PM            

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Thinking out side the box is dangerous

but it is always rewarding.

u are truly conservative mam -- i could tell.

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Nah, just speaking of dangerous as in the Orwellian sense

ie tinks quacking reference of
George Orwell 1984 book

juni

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted November 21, 2008 12:02 AM              

hmmm not sure I'm really compatible with anyone astrologically. Not too much effort on my part though. Well, most of the time. Sometimes I have to tell the nafs to shut the hell up and listen.

~ Heh do let me know what you don't agree on - so that I can think and learn from that. ~

Next time something comes up I'll be sure to let you know.

~ Thanks thats a complement indeed in a place where the lunatic ones are locked up while the flaky ones are free to move around. ~

posted November 23, 2008 12:00 AM            

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Mannu, I like you more and more everyday.
I don't agree with everything you post, but how pleasant it is listening to someone who thinks outside the box. Never any state approved Orwellian quacking from you, my friend.

Keep it coming. Those of us with open minds and willing to set our personal agendas aside might actually learn something.

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posted November 23, 2008 01:24 AM            

If not astrology then it could be that we both have someone we know in the military and that has made us tough and in sychronicity with each other. Remember all great masters of India were kshatriyas (warriors) Buddha, Mahavira, Krishna, etc..

You need that quality to fight -- to be different. And we all know the US military/navy/air force is such a place. There is no moment to think in war. Everyone is one step away from death. And whenever that has happened, they have come towards higher questions of existence completely transforming them.

posted November 24, 2008 09:05 AM            

technically not! in the original rig vedic system, those who took up to arms for their nation were called kshatiyas. if a brahmin's son wanted to do be in the military he would be called kshatiya and if a business man's son wanted to be a learn teacher he would be called brahmin. eventually this system became such that brahmin's children would be called brahmins and kshatirya's be called kshatriya. etc...

while krishan choose to be a warrior and ruler, he would be called kshatriya (as per original rig vedic system) but budha and mahavir would be called brahmins as they choose ascetic lives and became teachers of spirituality.

posted November 24, 2008 09:42 AM            

I agree, there were brahmins masters too.

But I was speaking of masters who changed india completely and very well known even abroad. An entire religion is devoted to some of these masters. Some lasting 500 years or even more. Makes sense?

And I type lot of things so cannot articulate everything -- next time please ask what I meant..Oh Gee, I was supposed to ignore you a dummy LOL

>>>>>>but budha and mahavir would be called brahmins as they choose ascetic lives and became teachers of spirituality

You are wrong they would not have any titles. They do not wish to have any titles. They are enlightened. If you are looking for a word go check "paramhansa". I was hoping you would use that word. But you are dumb so it does not surprise me LOL.
Buddha and Mahavira were kings who renounced their throne before they went on their path. I already spoke on Krishna somewhere here.

posted November 24, 2008 01:26 PM            

Sure it doesn't. It also needs a virgo like precision and scorpio's observation to be a master amongst many other things.

But no rules -- even naivety is useful while meditating. Brings one to no -mind stage. I think that florishes in you most often.

Elsewhere spoke about entering the stream from anywhere and however you are. Makes no difference if you are poor or rich, black or white, in the military or a farmer, gay or straight etc etc...
I try to focus on the positives and encourage one on that.

posted November 24, 2008 04:25 PM            

Also you need to learn to keep your nose away when I am having private conversations LOL. How many times do you need to be reminded? I guess a lib never gets it. They always like to trespass and get in that BLC thing you know

I consider Tink a better historian than either you or Xodian. Even better than me because I have not majored in one.