| Author | Topic:   Only the most poetic and beautiful quotes | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 24, 2007 06:48 PM     Juni -
 That quote is fantastic!   Long Live Determinism!!!      IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 24, 2007 06:48 PM     Mel,
   
 IP: Logged | 
	| juniperb Moderator
 Posts: 9306From: Blue Star Kachina
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 24, 2007 08:55 PM       I surely hoped, Mr. HSC, that quote would chirp you up
    Are you fond of Hazrat Inayat Khan`s Work? 
  ------------------~
 What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~
 - George Eliot IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 25, 2007 03:44 PM     I was not familiar with him, Juni.  I really know very little about the history of Sufism and its more modern adherents.  I've read some Indries Shah (sp?), and I'm sure I've come across some of Hazrat Inayat Khan`s words before, but not paid close enough attention to them or to who spoke them.  I'm reading about him on Wikipedia.  The photo (or portrait, i cannot tell) is very compelling.  I am always humbled by true teachers like this, descended from Royalty, initiated in many traditions, only teaching when their teachers encourage them to.  They put me in remembrance of that saying, "Whosoever would be somebody, must be willing to be nobody,".  Its a difficult lesson to learn, especially for someone like me, who is "possessed" by the idea that I am really somebody.  The recollection of true disciples, who labour in secret, who push the limits of their wills, and serve in menial ways they are not given due credit for, always humbles me to the quick.
 IP: Logged | 
	| juniperb Moderator
 Posts: 9306From: Blue Star Kachina
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 25, 2007 05:33 PM       HSC,
   Hazrat Inayat Khan`s work is a wonderful start to sufi insights! Indries Shah is always best balanced by reading his brother Omar Ali Shah. When one see`s the best of non religious sufism with religious sufism, the mind and heart has a more complete balance. My belief anyhow     Now my rant.
 To start descipleship, one must first have clarity on what need is vs. desire. When this is clear obediance/discipleship is no longer a painful effort but an effort of joy.
 Again when one has clarity on need, they are too full of praise and thanks to their Lord to sit about self loathing and wishing.
   You have said to me "you sound/seem harsh". Well, that harshness is tempered with Love and Certitude. Certitude that my Lord will carry me through any fire this earth school has to offer. Harsh because it takes discipleship, obediance and a straight path to arrive to this place of peace. My Certitude is not bendable and I will appear harsh to someone taking a different path. ......But really, I am an Aquarian pussycat        ------------------~
 What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~
 - George Eliot IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 25, 2007 06:39 PM     
 quote:To start discipleship, one must first have clarity on what need is vs. desire. When this is clear obediance/discipleship is no longer a painful effort but an effort of joy.
 
 How is this clarity attained? IP: Logged | 
	| adrienne unregistered
 |  posted June 25, 2007 06:40 PM     Stephen,
 
     IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 25, 2007 08:14 PM       We cannot all be famous
 Or listed in "Who's who,"
 But every person great or small
 has important work to do
 For seldom do we realizethe importance of small deeds
 Or to what degree of greatness
 unnoticed kindness leads
 For if everybody brightened upthe spot on which they're standing
 By being more considerate
 and a little less demanding
 This changing world would very sooneclipse the evening star,
 If everybody brightened up
 the corner where they are.
    The first quote written in my quote book.From a greeting card!  Probably Helen Steiner Rice
 If you go looking for power, instead of using the Force (Holy Spirit) to guide you, you might end up as Vader. A Jedi's strength flows from the Force.  But beware
 of the dark side.  Anger... fear...
 aggression.  The dark side of
 the Force are they.
 Easily they flow, quick to join
 you in a fight.  If once you
 start down the dark path, forever
 will it dominate your destiny,
 consume you it will, as it did
 Obi-Wan's apprentice.
 				LUKEVader.
 Is the dark side stronger?
 				YODANo... no... no.  Quicker, easier,
 more seductive.
 				LUKEBut how am I to know the good side
 from the bad?
 				YODAYou will know.  When you are calm,
 at peace.  Passive.  A Jedi uses
 the Force for knowledge and
 defense, never for attack.
 				LUKEBut tell me why I can't...
 				YODA(interrupting)
 No, no, there is no why.  Nothing
 more will I teach you today.
 Clear your mind of questions.
 Mmm.  Mmmmmmmm.
 IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 25, 2007 08:17 PM       Artoo beeps in the distance as Luke lets Yoda down to the ground.
 Breathing heavily, he takes his shirt from a nearby tree branch and
 pulls it on.
 He turns to see a huge, dead, black tree, its base surrounded by a few feet of water.  Giant, twisted roots form a dark and sinister cave on
 one side.  Luke stares at the tree, trembling.
 				LUKEThere's something not right here.
 Yoda sits on a large root, poking his Gimer Stick into the dirt. 				LUKEI feel cold, death.
 				YODAThat place... is strong with the
 dark side of the Force.  A domain
 of evil it is.  In you must go.
 				LUKEWhat's in there?
 				YODAOnly what you take with you.
 IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 25, 2007 08:20 PM       DAGOBAH - BOG - DAY
 Luke's face is upside-down and showing enormous strain.  He stands on his hands, with Yoda perched on his feet.  Opposite Luke and Yoda are
 two rocks the size of bowling balls.  Luke stares at the rocks and
 concentrates.  One of the rocks lifts from the ground and floats up to
 rest on the other.
 				YODAUse the Force.  Yes...
 Yoda taps Luke's leg.  Quickly, Luke lifts one hand from the ground.  His body wavers, but he maintains his balance.  Artoo, standing nearby,
 is whistling and beeping frantically.
 				YODANow... the stone.  Feel it.
 Luke concentrates on trying to lift the top rock.  It rises a few feet, shaking under the strain.  But, distracted by Artoo's frantic beeping,
 Luke loses his balance and finally collapses.  Yoda jumps clear.
 				YODAConcentrate!
 Annoyed at the disturbance, Luke looks over at Artoo, who is rocking urgently back and forth in front of him.
 Artoo waddles closer to Luke, chirping wildly, then scoots over the edge of the swamp.  Catching on, Luke rushes to the water's edge.  The
 X-wing fighter has sunk, and only the tip of its nose shows above the
 lake's surface.
 				LUKEOh, no.  We'll never get it out
 now.
 Yoda stamps his foot in irritation. 				YODASo certain are you.  Always with
 you it cannot be done.  Hear you
 nothing that I say?
 Luke looks uncertainly out at the ship. 				LUKEMaster, moving stones around is
 one thing.  This is totally
 different.
 				YODANo!  No different!  Only different
 in your mind.  You must unlearn
 what you have learned.
 				LUKE(focusing, quietly)
 All right, I'll give it a try.
 				YODANo!  Try not.  Do.  Or do not.
 There is no try.
 Luke closes his eyes and concentrates on thinking the ship out. Slowly, the X-wing's nose begins to rise above the water.  It hovers for a moment and then slides back, disappearing once again.
 				LUKE(panting heavily)
 I can't.  It's too big.
 				YODASize matters not.  Look at me.
 Judge me by my size, do you?
 Hm?  Mmmm.
 Luke shakes his head. 				YODAAnd well you should not.  For my
 ally is the Force.  And a powerful
 ally it is.  Life creates it, makes
 it grow.  Its energy surrounds us
 and binds us.  Luminous beings
 are we...
 (Yoda pinches
 Luke's shoulder)
 ... not this crude matter.
 (a sweeping gesture)
 You must feel the Force around you.
 (gesturing)
 Here, between you... me... the
 tree... the rock... everywhere!
 Yes, even between this land and
 that ship!
 				LUKE(discouraged)
 You want the impossible.
 Quietly Yoda turns toward the X-wing fighter.  With his eyes closed and his head bowed, he raises his arm and points at the ship.
 Soon, the fighter rises above the water and moves forward as Artoo beeps in terror and scoots away.
 The entire X-wing moves majestically, surely, toward the shore.  Yoda stands on a tree root and guides the fighter carefully down toward the
 beach.
 Luke stares in astonishment as the fighter settles down onto the shore.  He walks toward Yoda.
 				LUKEI don't... I don't believe it.
 				YODAThat is why you fail.
 
  
 IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 25, 2007 09:11 PM     
 Thanks, Ada.
 Thanks, Mel.
   
  "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson 
 IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 26, 2007 03:32 PM       
 
 What you teach me
     "You yourself are time- your body, your mind, the objects around you. Plunge into the river of time and swim, instead of standing on the banks and noting the course of the currents."~Philip Kapleau
 "Adversity not only draws people together but also brings forth that beautiful inward friendship, just as the cold winter forms ice-figures on the windowpanes, which the warmth of the sun effaces."~Soren Kierkegaard
 
     "The sun is high in the sky, shining on everything. Why is it blocked by a cloud? Everyone has a shadow, with us always. Why can't you step on it? The whole world is a pit of fire. What state of mind can you attain to avoid being burned?"~Kao-Feng
 "I've stopped thinking all the time of what happened yesterday. And stopped asking myself what's going to happen tomorrow. What's happening today, this minute, that's what I care about. I say: What are you doign at this moment, Zorba? ... I'm kissing a woman. Well, kiss her well, Zorba! And forget all the rest while you're doing it; there's nothing else on earth, only you and her!"
 ~Nikos Kazantzakis
 
 IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 26, 2007 03:35 PM       What I teach you
 "The important point of spiritual practice is not to try to escape your life, but to face it- exactly and completely."
 ~Dainin Katagiri
       "Pick battles big enough to matter, small enough to win."~Johnathan Kozol
     "Please subdue the anguish of your soul. Nobody is destined only to happiness or to pain. The wheel of life takes me up and down by turn."~Kalidasa
 "Philosophy will clip an angel's wings."
 ~John Keats
 
 IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 26, 2007 03:40 PM       Other stuff we both know but sometimes forget
 "To be on a quest is nothing more or less than to become an asker of questions."
 ~Sam Keen
 "Failures, repeated failures, are finger posts on the road to achievement. One fails forward toward success."~Charles F. Kettering
 "Keep your face to the sunshine and you cannot see the shadows."~Helen Keller
 "I long to accomplish a great and noble task, but it is my chief duty to accomplish small tasks as if they were great and noble."~Helen Keller
 "Do not consciously seek enlightenment."
 ~Muso Kokushi
 "The higher the truth, the simpler it is."
 ~Abraham Isaac Kook
     "It is enough."~Immanuel Kant
 IP: Logged | 
	| TINK unregistered
 |  posted June 26, 2007 07:59 PM     An Aquarian pussycat!!??
 HA!!   IP: Logged | 
	| juniperb Moderator
 Posts: 9306From: Blue Star Kachina
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 26, 2007 10:27 PM       sniff sniff,
     Is that a scent of  Scorp jealousy in the air             ------------------~
 What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~
 - George Eliot IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 27, 2007 03:05 PM     "I do not say 'pay attention'.
 Who or what are you going to pay it to?
 There is nothing there. -
 Be attention."
 ~ Valerian IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 27, 2007 03:28 PM     
 all that should pass
 should pass unseen
 all that shall sink
 shall wait unclean
 i shall imply this
 to you, my friend
 we shall perish
 thank goodness, god send
 ~ Claire Davies 
 IP: Logged | 
	| juniperb Moderator
 Posts: 9306From: Blue Star Kachina
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 27, 2007 03:57 PM       A Friend once quoted the Quran:
 The interconnectedness of All is an expression of the singularity embodied in the notion of God. Every fallen tear or shed blood rips the fabric of existence. In this great Unity, the pain of one is the pain of all, the salvation of one is the salvation of all. Likewise, the defilement of Nature is the defilement of all Earth.     ------------------~
 What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~
 - George Eliot IP: Logged | 
	| TINK unregistered
 |  posted June 27, 2007 10:18 PM     No, my friend.  Just the amusement of one with a few cat scratches.
 IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted June 27, 2007 11:18 PM     "Be Passerby."
 - 26Taurus IP: Logged | 
	| juniperb Moderator
 Posts: 9306From: Blue Star Kachina
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted June 28, 2007 01:21 PM       
   ------------------~
 What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~
 - George Eliot IP: Logged | 
	| MysticMelody Knowflake
 Posts: 1066From:
 Registered: Apr 2009
 |  posted July 09, 2007 02:22 PM       When the sweet glance of my true love caught my eyes,
 Like alchemy, it transformed my copper-like soul.
 I searched for Him with a thousand hands,
 He stretched out His arms and clutched my feet.
 ~Rumi IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted July 09, 2007 02:53 PM     good one, mel.
  He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour:
 but a man of understanding holdeth his peace.
 Proverbs 11:12
 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:
 but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
 Proverbs 12:15
 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge:
 but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.
 Proverbs 15:14
 Let us search and try our ways,
 and turn again to the Lord.
 Lamentations 3:40
 
 IP: Logged | 
	| Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
 |  posted July 11, 2007 03:43 PM     Once the realization is accepted that even between the closest human beings infinite distances continue, a wonderful living side by side can grow, if they succeed in loving the distance between them which makes it possible for each to see the other whole against the sky.
 -- Rainer Maria Rilke
 IP: Logged |