posted August 26, 2003 12:20 PM              

In regards to the Vatican...do you really think they kept all that good 'incriminating' evidence? OR Is it just HOPE on our part that they saved ancient manuscripts confiscated by the Church?

posted August 26, 2003 06:26 PM            

Well, I'm not under the impression that they saved the material for any particularly humanitarian reason, but knowledge is power...

What better way to keep power out of the hands of the masses, and in the hands of the few, the proud, the Mother Church?

Just a thought.

Blessings of Peace and Light...
A

P.S. In terms of help, ALA, you are always surrounded by it... you have but to open up and ask God and Her Angels to help you create the miracles you desire. Remember Dorothy and her Ruby slippers?

Pax vobiscum...

A

posted August 26, 2003 09:25 PM              

Further, I do KNOW I am always surrounded by help. I feel very blessed that I have awoken to this help and believe you me I rely on 'their' help alot. I call it prayer. That said, it is also nice to have a little human touch every once in a while. Speaking of human touches, is there anything better than a warm, human hug?

posted August 29, 2003 12:03 AM            

Agreed the human hugs are all that and a bag 'o chips on the side... and the smootchies aren't bad either...

But there is something about moments of Divine Inspiration, when for a moment you remember yourself as being ONE with God, that surpasses even the comfort of the human touch.

Have you read A Romance of Two Worlds by Marie Corelli? She discusses in that book the possibility of the "Soul Mate" not being incarnated in Physical Reality, and it is a thought provoking look at the Reality behind the reality. I don't completely buy into everything that she states in The Truth about the Sun and Moon nor The Electric Principle of Christianity. But there is much good in that work.

I believe that was her first effort at "romanticizing" the Rosicrucian concepts that she had been studying, and I think perhaps The Life Everlasting was even more insightful, but even Adepts have to have their beginnings somewhere, and I think Marie Corelli was one that "got it"!

Bright Blessings and a spiritual hug from a fellow lover of Angels...

A

posted December 10, 2003 03:10 PM              

i just read this today. never seen it before. i think it is a code too and was re-reading it over and over.

may be i'll post later my thoughts.

posted December 11, 2003 11:53 AM              

I think Loony has a great insight about the substance being water - I just wonder what it could be about water that warrants this level of mystery.

I often think about our place in the evoultionary timeline of humanity, not in terms of how far we've come, but of how far we have to go. Since we haven't blown ourselves up yet, maybe we'll make it, and in that case perhaps we are still in the birthing/infant stages of what we are meant to evolve into. I like to think that's so, anyway.

If I had the mind for theoretical physics, I could add a lot more here, but even so, as all of you know, we have just started to take science to the level of subtle energies, and quantum physics is just barely out of the crib. Perhaps water holds the key to an energy source, a building block source, that will provide a unifying theory of physics that is manipulatable by us, either through technological or psi means (or both). If we are indeed universe-makers ourselves, we sure have a lot to learn first about balance.

And what of the central role of Earth in the tablet. Are we destined to stay earth-bound? Are there no other planets that hold this mystery?

Perhaps water is what holds our soul bound to this time/place/dimension. (I had a dream once about a friend who had just died, and she was so happy to finally be free of all that water!)

I wonder.

p.s. Aselzion,I *heard* you mention bookstore - my favorite word - is this one in boston or closer to home? (I'm in Beverly - peek-a-boo I can almost see you:-)

posted December 11, 2003 12:41 PM              

fun indeed

i was meaning to ask last night when was the emerald table written? b/c i am not altogether certain the author(s) were aware of the minutae and complex knowledge we have about chemistry today.

there was a website someone shared a few months back about a people called, Wingmakers. from that site, apparently there exists vasts amount information about Earth and the Universe. i had asked the contributor here if the Wingmakers are fact or fiction and did not get a response. one side of me thinks someone had a lot of time on their hands to put together that website. reminded me of StarWars.

posted December 11, 2003 01:16 PM            

Wow, Beverly... you probably HAVE seen me. I occasionally pop in to Pyramid Books in Salem, and several of the witchy stores there as well.

Perhaps we shall have to ordain a meeting some time over some mulled cider or a nice bowl of soup to discuss Linda, metaphysics and the mysteries of the Universe...

Oh.. the bookstore I referenced here is Weiser Antiquarian Books in York, Maine. When I'm looking for something out of print since Noah built the ark (thank you, Linda) they can usually manage to procure it for me... gotta love em!

Blessings...

A

Don't be too disappointed when I look like the guy next door! A man of glamour and intrigue I am not! But I do have an interesting aura!

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"Aum bhoor buvah svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasaya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo naha prachodayat." ****Gayatri Mantra****

posted December 13, 2003 10:40 AM              

Aphrodite, here's the "timeline" on the Tablets from the link that Annie Kuzma (where DOES she come up with all of these???) posted:

"The history of the tablets translated in the following pages is strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists. Their antiquity is stupendous, dating back some 36,000 years B.C. The writer is Thoth, an Atlantean Priest-King, who founded a colony in ancient Egypt after the sinking of the mother country. He was the builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza, erroneously attributed to Cheops. (See The Great Pyramid by Doreal.) In it he incorporated his knowledge of the ancient wisdom and also securely secreted records and instruments of ancient Atlantis."

Obviously not your average priest-king of the earthly realms. Well, perhaps it takes some suspension of belief, but who are we to say what came before.

peace and learning,

posted December 18, 2003 12:16 AM              

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The Emerald Tablet

"It is true, certain, and without falsehood, that whatever is below is like that which is above; and that which is above is like that which is below: to accomplish the one wonderful work. As all things are derived from the One Only Thing, by the will and by the word of the One Only One who created it in His Mind, so all things owe their existence to this Unity by the order of Nature, and can be improved by the Adaptation to that Mind.
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I think of Linda and other Holistic health practices that emphasize the mind, body and spirit connection. What is above, perhaps the spirit realm, is what is below, perhaps the physical realm. Vice versa, our karma transcends through the vibrations of third eye energy and our life force, the sacred breath we speak with.

"As all things are derived from the One Only Thing, by the will and by the word of the One Only One who created it in His Mind, so all things owe their existence to this Unity by the order of Nature, and can be improved by the Adaptation to that Mind."

This particular sentence catches my attention. That sacred inner voice that is Universal to all and is this power that Linda's always emphasize, Image and Ordain. I believe the sacred voice is the beautiful will. But manifestation is a result of both will and word, so according to the Order of Nature --- depending on how we breathe, speak, and eminate our life force, manifestations in accordance to the Unity by the order of Nature occur. Dis-ease, immortality, telekinesis, and the like. There are probably specific Mind energies and chosen patterns of breath that produce effects in the "order" to this Unity to Nature.

"Improved by the Adaptation to THAT Mind"

"Its Father is the Sun; its Mother is the Moon; the Wind carries it in its womb; and its nurse is the Earth. This Thing is the Father of all perfect things in the world."

I think of the two halves of the brain - left and right with current associations with them. It is interesting that from our physical position, the brain is read from left to right, Father and Mother, in the order that Thoth has stated.

I also think of Astrological associations of the Sun and Moon. Sun (Father) = 1, Moon (Mother) = 2. I really believe there are mathematics associated with this because with the Wind carrying "IT" in its womb, may symbolize energy vibrations traveling through the air (wind). In today's world, it's called Analog signals . . . but advances are being made to Digital Signal Processing to produce standards and reduce "noise" (which really isn't technically noise, just variants).

Another possibility is reproduction. The Sun symbolizes Fire and the Moon symbolizes water, Leo and Cancer. The male contributes his seed in the form of moving sperm and the female provides the egg and a watery submersion. The Earth as ITS nurse sounds like reincarnation, or the birth of a physical form dependent on the Earth's resources for survival. Or may be the physical body is considered the "Earth," (ashes to ashes, dust to dust, this is what becomes of us) because our bodies nurse our souls too.

"This THING is the Father of all perfect things in the world."

Not sure how to put my thoughts into words, may be later.

"Its power is most perfect when it has again been changed into Earth. Separate the Earth from the Fire, the subtle from the gross, but carefully and with great judgment and skill.'

Perhaps the change into Earth means physical manifestation of energy in the order of Nature. In which case, a lot of people sure would see that as power! I think in this case, the Earth symbolizing the human body as a nurse makes sense in seprating it from the Fire, carefully. Isn't this what a lot of us who visit this site do in our daily lives?

"IT ascends from earth to heaven, and descends again, new born, to the earth, taking unto itself thereby the power of the Above and the Below."

This sounds like re-incarnation, but also magick in the synchronistic mastery of breath, energy, and mind. I think there is more, but can't find the words for it right now.

"Thus the splendor of the whole world will be thine, and all darkness shall flee from thee."

Hmm. Not sure about this one.

"This is the strongest of all powers, the Force of all forces, for it overcometh all subtle things and can penetrate all that is solid. For thus was the world created, and rare combinations, and wonders of many kinds are wrought."

posted December 21, 2003 02:26 PM            

Prolific!

You know, as I think of it, I believe that Linda put some diagrams in Gooberz that relate to that which is above falling down to that which is below, and then rising up again...

I'll have to spiral on this more myself. But I think that every attempt to elaborate and to contemplate on the meaning of this document is all to the good.

Like The 7 Hermetic Principles, I believe that The Emerald Tablet exists as a clue to help us attain, or rather regain, the Mastery that is innate in us as spiritual beings, but that we seem to forget about so well when we enter the Physical dimension.

I also think there may be clues in both of these Hermetic documents that shed light, in however cryptic a fashion, on attaining Physical Immortality.

Just a thought...

Bright Blessings...
A

posted December 23, 2003 12:30 AM            

If you think that's sort of eerie... the Tarot definitely sheds some light on the whole Physical Immortality thang.

In particular, if one has a good understanding of Higher Arcana 13, which is called Death, one will learn a secret of chemico-physical transformation that is part and parcel of the prolongation of Physical Life.

Linda even hinted at it when she wrote of the number 13 conferring "power and dominion". Ever stop and wonder about "power and dominion" over what?

Now, I'm not saying that I know what eactly that secret is, but that it is there has been well documented by far wiser occultists than I.

Just a little esoteric food for thought...

In L.V.X. eternal...
A

posted December 23, 2003 11:23 AM              

This is what is said in a book I am reading called, "The Sacred Magic of Angels," by David Goddard.

#13 is the Grim Reaper, no?

I'm not clear about the subject of Immortality, like what it has to do with and in what material state it exists in. But I attribute this to my own lack of interest at the present time.

posted December 23, 2003 05:32 PM            

Hrmmm.. Sacred magic of Angels... is that in any way related to what is called Enochian Magic?

If so, I would advise against trying to put Enochian to practical use... it is a system fraught with dangers if one is not rightly prepared in the finer aspects of Occultism and Ritual Magic.

That being said...In terms of Physical Immortality, Linda spoke of it in Chapter 9 of Star Signs, and much information has since come my way in regard to this fairly esoteric topic. Too much information for me to pass it off as so much fluff and nonsense.

I'm not sure what I think on the whole matter myself, but that I am interested I think goes without saying. Is it a wee bit more complex perhaps than Linda wrote about? Of that I am certain. And do you need to be interested in the matter.. not really at all, but with the seeds planted, perhaps someday you will become interested, or perhaps not. I don't believe that it is essential.

Yes 13 has been called the Grim Reaper I suppose, but I think it's functions are more broad than that. What are your thoughts on this Key?

Bright Blessings for a joyous Christmas...
A

posted December 24, 2003 09:19 AM              

i had serious thoughts after i read your warning yesterday. considering where and whom i bought the book from, among others on the same day, i'm not sure about what to do.

posted December 24, 2003 11:15 AM            

Well, IF that book is about Enochian Magic I might put it to one side for a while.

A great modern mystic (Paul Foster Case), whose work I have always found to be safe, sane and reliable, has stated that Enochian was a made up system, and any beneficial results that have been obtained from its use have resulted from the elements of Truth that were included, or brought into that system from other Traditions of longer standing.

He goes on to say that he had seen first-hand the psychic damage done to at least 25 people who were using that system. He does NOT deny it's validity; but what he does say is pretty much akin to what has been said about the premature raising of the Kundalini in one unprepared for such a thing: at the best one will go mad...

In other words, if and when you are ready, the Kundalini will rise on its own safely. If you are meant to put Enochian to practical use, you will be taught safe and sane ways to do it; but I do NOT think that will come through a book, but rather by a personal and trusted guide, Teacher or guru.

I think like anything else, unless we are exactly sure for ourselves what some word or phrase means, best not to invoke it. Did you ever see My Big Fat Greek Wedding? Toula's brother kept prompting Ian to say certain things in Greek by telling him that the words meant one thing when in fact they meant another. Those results were comical... I'm not so sure that the use of Enochian, without a deep and abiding knowledge of Qabalah/Ritual Magic, would be so benign.

'nough said?

Happy Holy Days...

A

posted December 24, 2003 11:35 AM              

Okay, now I am in panic b/c I bought something else that day and did something and I hadn't been feeling so good after that. I posted a note on Free For All today asking if anyone else was feeling fiesty due to Mars' transit.

I am too self-conscious to post what it was on a public board b/c I am a bit weary of the person i bought these things from now

Aphrodite

posted December 24, 2003 12:06 PM            

Okay.. calm down... one little thing isn't gonna break you! I think it's the cumulative work with that system that leads to an insidious breakdown of the bonds that hold us to sanity.

I think the way you are feeling is probably related to some guilt issues or regret, and that will probably be the worst of the repercussions.

If you do not trust the person that sold you the books, or the content... get rid of them.

Next exercise is to cleanse your aura with Green followed by Gold and finally a layer of Violet Light to seal the aura.

I'm sending you Angels and Light for a wonderful and Magical (but not Enochian Magic) Holy Day!

A

posted December 25, 2003 12:01 PM              

Merry Christmas to you too.