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StarLover33
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posted September 13, 2003 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean?

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Randall
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posted September 14, 2003 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
She thought I was the most powerful sorcerer around.

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Aselzion
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posted September 14, 2003 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings Ozone...

I have only one comment to make:

Magic, good or bad, can only impact you to the degree that you ALLOW it to! If you buy into its power, you will seem to suffer at the hands of vengeful practitioners.

If rather, you choose to recognize that aspect of You that is God, or that aspect of God that is You, and determine that nothing your enemies do will have any influence on you; then nothing they do can bring you harm.

An affirmation that an old teacher of mine used was: Nothing and no one comes to me but by God(dess) the Father(Mother).

I am of the opinion that if you arm yourself with Faith, surround yourself with an aura of violet flame, and promptly rid yourself of the notion that magic can harm you; you will be free of your torment.

Violet Flame has the ability to transmute lower energies and will not "return them to sender", so to speak, but merely raise their vibration and scatter them back into the universe with hurt or harm to none.

I wish you peace and bright blessings...

A

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 14, 2003 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message

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ozonefiller
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posted September 14, 2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
OK,this is the deal. The way she uses her magick,is to persuade people for her own whims. She has this gift to get into people's minds and convince them to attack me at any turn. She is not doing this directly at me,she using other people to be her... should I say "kamikazes",to the point of almost "virtual suicide"! I can't stop her unless I end up doing something evil to her,for her "loyal" friends(which are in the hundreds)are in the way! She knows she(herself)cannot control me,so she puts her magick into others and then sends them out to do her bidding!

I know the spell very well,I've tried it myself a few times on other people(to see if it really works,where you can make a person think whatever you want them to think,to manipulate a person to do whatever you want them to do,without saying one single word)! But the way this is being done,it would HAVE to take more then one individual to do this in order to do what she is doing! This is a DEADLY swarm of WASPS,she manage to create! An Army! The goal in turn,is to destroy me and anybody that is like me,in order to have full control.For all I've been to them is "in the way!"! Anybody that is like them,are welcome to join in of they're madness,but like China and Russia,if they complete they're goal,then in turn,they will turn on EACH OTHER! They are like a CANCER! Get it? You are already seeing it and you don't know why. Nothing that is foretold to any of you,has ever been a lie,so why should all that start now?!

You don't understand,because you guys didn't hear the rest of my story yet(that I'm trying to explane),I fully agree with all of you,on what your saying,but these codes that I'm trying to tell you,is a perfect formula into how to beat THEM(I believe),that was givin to me buy the very people that I'm trying to tell you about! They don't want for me to join them,they are looking for me to help them in someway.

Sundance,is a very strong "one",but in someway(I still believe)that all of this is way beyond his realm,for I think that he believes that he cannot go into those depths,without being totally consumed into it! HE cannot and will not cross that line,his mission is totally different then mine. And in my other post,I think that is what he's is trying to say to me,"...the postman in the middle of a WAR!"! He has seen obviously,what I'm doing right now at this very moment! Believe me,he's the type(that if I descripe him fully),that you would think that he's NOT to be trusted,but if you know him(like I do),you would and you can feel his heart! I don't know how to explain,it's like it is so pure,like "White Light" and you can even feel it more,even threw his growls(when he speaks)and that is something that I find very unusaul,nothing that I ever thought that I would feel from such a man! I cannot tell you the rest of his desciption(for I would be exploiting the "other ones" and the "ones" that are like him),but know this,"Angels are not only around when you least expect it,they also come in forms of those that you least expect! But so do Devils as well!" Anybody, inturn can be fooled by The Seven,in all that is worth!

If you look around,you know that everything is falling into place,you've studied into it for so long,now are you all about to deny it?! You all know it's coming and this is the thing that has been invoked by the ones that don't give a damn,but if this is the LAST thing that I ever do, at least I have done SOMETHING!

The Seven,are out for themselves,but they embrace the very being(the very creature),that onlys hates and despises them and the rest of us,for we are all children of GOD! We are the hieratics and the heirs to this world(and the rest of the universe(s)),for the time has come for the "old one" to step down from any control of anything,for the the time has come that he is no longer...

...SATAN!

This is the end of the first clue.

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posted September 14, 2003 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A Learning Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Hello ozonefiller,

As you have asked for opinions, I am willing to offer up mine.

Like you, I do believe in Evil and that Evil can be harmful & have a force of its own. I believe a Black Brotherhood does indeed exist and it is s a powerful evil I further believe in Demons, Demons who wait for us at certain soul thresholds.

That said, like Aselzion, I do believe these forces of darkness impact you ONLY to the degree you allow them. Further, I do believe those who join themselves with God/dess are never unprotected by the Great Protectos and that Evil essences can not penetrate the protective essences of the Great Protectors; however, this protective essence is a protection against all things exterior - only that within yourself can bring your harm.

What is your choice, ozonefiller? Will they or will they not harm you? It is your choice.

ALAngel

P.S. I know someone who did a magic spell on another person & it did NOT work. That person could & did stop it (to the confusion of the sender).

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posted September 14, 2003 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you constantly making these people, sound more difficult then they really are? We have told you time and time again, that they have no power over you. That you are responsible for allowing them to go as far as they have. You are the one that wants to remain in the victims seat. If you didn't, you would not be in this position of constantly allowing them to attack you. Aselzion has spoken about it, and I even gave you an example about Randall. The fact that you used the same power over people to test if it works, tells me that you deserve what your getting and more, even though I have sympathy for you. You're very lucky to be getting a second chance to redeem yourself even asking me how to use white magick. Which tells me that you do not use white magick. I sense that you have ulterior motives behind the facade of a victim. If you didn't have ulterior motives, then they would have been stopped a long time ago, with even darker magick. I am confused with your desires. We've been telling you how to stop them but you're not satisfied with the answers even though they're correct. Do you want them to stop hurting you? Or are you trying to play a game with them? Perhaps you are trying to form a move like in the game chess. I can not help you if I don't exactly know where your motives stand. I'm already beginning to disbelieve that you're trying to defend yourself.

-StarLover

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ozonefiller
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posted September 14, 2003 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
Gee Starlover,temper-temper! Who took a crap in your Chearios today? Uh-oh,here comes the axe,AGAIN! I have the uncanny power to whatever I say,only p*sses people off!


Indeed ALA,their are those that use they're power for evil,can be very unigue and highly imaginitive. In this case however,they are not really using they're powers ON ME,they seem to use other people that are more weakminded,unfortunately,thus turn around and coax them into doing things that they would not usually do in they're own sentiment,this is the case of the ones that fall victim to The Craft that don't believe in The Craft,so basically,they(which are the victims)feel that for all cost,believe that they are doing "for the GOOD of the world",but in truth,they end up reaping they're own karma for some one elses expense(most times not even knowing the individual that has cast the spell onto them),this is terrible,for this is one of the ways(for those who choose to use Black Magick)to beat the karmatic fate that results of breaking the first and most important rules of all Magick: "for everythng that you cast out,comes back to you threefold" Though I've EXPERIMENTED in the past,I still had to make the choice of which side I wanted to BE on,but I like to(from time to time),learn how my enemies tick for my own defences.

Starlover,I will no longer answer any of your post,if you continue to falsely accuse and thrash me on this forum.

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posted September 15, 2003 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing can harm us unless we choose on some level to allow it.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 15, 2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Tao,,,

Only method you need,,, no matter what you call it.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 15, 2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Magus of music~ I agree that the tao is the only way, but how do you explain something unexplainable.?
Starlover~ You are a beautiful kind human being, and wouldn't know how to trash a garbage bag!!!!
I stumbled upon this post, and won't pretend I know anything about the things you speak of, Ozonefiller..... I am not without sympathy...I believe it is a real plight to you that you are going through.
I do however, agree that people can only hurt you as much as you allow them to, and I also know how seductive it feels sometimes, to let yourself go deeply under.
Whether it is other's influences, drugs, or your own or others' demons.
You appear to be an intellegent human being, yet I wonder what compells you to attack the people trying to help you?
Maybe you simply wanted a forum to voice your concerns, instead of a kind shoulder to rest them upon. I have found the people here, from all walks of life, to be very helpful and peaceful, while retaining their own individual identities. I appreciate and respect your identity. I believe that is all we ask for in this world, as we make our way, day by day.
I am sorry you feel plighted by these people. I am sorry anyone feels plighted, but it needs to happen, in order to learn the lessons we came here to learn.
I say these things without the slightest hint of pretense, although I know you can see no emotion in this format...no lift on an eyebrow, no twitch of your smile.
Maybe if you open yourself to whatever happiness you feel deserving of, these people will lose a bit of their power over the way you exist for yourself.
I know I have not helped, but this was a selfish writing.....
I hope your journey is a peaceful, healthy, calm one. I wish you love in spades.

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posted September 16, 2003 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
Look,I rather not talk about this anymore,OK? I'm sick and tired of everytime I even say something,I either get falsely accused for some kind of ulterier motive,bashing people,or just plain all-out being mean or something!

Really,can I ask you a simple question,what the hELL is this site for? Is it for the only the chosen few that are allowed to speak or something? Whatever it is,it no longer matters to me. I gather from even your post that I should be only reading the forums and not writing in them. Well,then fine,I'll stop posting here from now on and I'll stop by sometime in the next lifetime. I don't need the frustration that I already have!

As in everybody else that maybe concerned,"You don't know a damn thing about me! I'm glad you think you do!"

Hope your happy,bet you are!


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posted September 16, 2003 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
wow.....very hostile, like a balloon mid-burst. If you choose to move from this topic, so be it. I definately have to say though, I am certainly complicated and moody and unsure of myself. If people ask advice, or if I think I can help, or hell, if I just like the sound of my fingers clacking at the keys, let that advice or sound off, fall where it may. I can't make you listen to anything, and I'm glad that we all have our own opinions. I like that about the world. I said what I said, and I stand by it. I'm sorry if my contribution irked you in some way. For the record though? I am not happy all the time, and like I'd posted in my message, it was a selfish writing, maybe I identified with your drama in some way, and I was writing for myself, and my own therapy.
"Posterchild for prozac" just popped in my mind. I'll try not to offend you next time.
Peace, cuz I need a piece of it too

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posted September 17, 2003 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, indeed we all have our opinions and I have mine,but if somebody turns around and tells me that I deserve something bad to happen to me and unbelievable pain in my life for some spell that I cast on a couple of people(that was truely harmless to them),I question you for telling me that ain't bashing either! Their's a fine line between constuctive critisism and a put down,I don't need either,but I got pulled here made to spill my guts and them totally slammed dunked and you call ME hostile!

What are you talking about?


Anyway,like I said,for the record,if I really wanted my own forum(with I think you being sarcastic for saying that)it would be:OZONEFILLER'S CYBER,ALL TALK,NO FRILLS,DIRTY,ROTTEN,NO GOOD,TO GIVE YOU SOME LOVE AND LIGHT,WITH OUT-OF-CONTROL WOMEN,SEX SHOW!

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posted September 17, 2003 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
Please surround yourself in the White Light, and KNOW that you need protection.

Feel it and picture yourself in it.

Do this everytime you doubt intentions of others.
Do this everytime you fear.
Do this everytime you have a bad thought.
Do this for protection all the time if necessary.
All you have to do is believe in the power of the White Light/Love, and it will always be there for you.

My Motto is "If there is a problem, throw Love at it"

It REALLY is a neutralizer of Evil.
The opposite,and all opposites when mixed are neutralized.

Also if you believe in Karma, let them that try to harm you recieve their natural reaction to their action. If you separate yourself from their Karma, you are not the recipient of their dues. Also you don't start your own Karma on their behalf.


KILL 'EM WITH KINDNESS!!!

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posted September 18, 2003 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted September 19, 2003 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pink Angel     Edit/Delete Message
i must say, i am so overwhelmed reading this thread, i didnt know such people existed and i simply dont understand why people cant live happily like they live in fairy tales.

all i can say is that as long as you are a nice person, evil will try and try but you will never get sucked into it unless you allow yourself to.the power of good is always superior to the power of evil.

i hope and pray for you, ozone...
i hope you are safe..

Lots of Love

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posted September 19, 2003 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
Sending you LOVE.....
and prayers....

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posted September 19, 2003 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
Sending you lots of LOVE...
and prayers....

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pixelpixie
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posted September 19, 2003 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
ozone filler ~
haven't been on this post in a few days, but if you are still checking back from time to time, I thought I'd leave this for you.....
The "forum" that I mentioned was misunderstood. I was implying that, because you sort of attacked the people here trying to listen and help (ie;starlover)
I surmised that you probably DON'T want help. Which is fine. Most likely, as we all need to do now and then, you just wanted to vent. Once again... which is fine. I didn't mean-get out and start your own forum...
Who the hell am I to say that???
I think the real problem here is compassion for your fellow humans. You are quick to judge and cling on to negativity. Rather than seeing all the good things people are posting regarding you and your situation, you choose to focus on purely negativity.
Well, you know what? As long as you continue focusing only on that, the people cursing you or attacking you have won.
You make your own decisions. Not everyone is out to get you, you know....don't you think we have better things to worry about than someone's self-destructive tendancies?
Key word; SELF.
I am also a scorpio....I would be interested in the other aspects of your chart. The reason I am frank about it, is because I have those compulsions too....
And I know you are strong enough to hear it.
Not that it makes any difference.
P.S. _ I don't think anyone was saying you deserved to have bad things happen to you, I believe we all get out what we put in...
It is the karmic wheel of life. And after all, this is lindaland, I should hope that we all get that concept, and if not get it, work on it.peace

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posted September 19, 2003 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Ozone,

I haven't been posting because I wanted to allow this to die down for a bit. Perhaps I was venting at the time, but I did not mean to trash you or hurt you.

I was simply feeling a vibe that you are, perhaps making things too hard on yourself. Pixie is right, I simply felt that you were only absorbing the negativity, and not the positive warm comforts, that so many of us were posting toward you.

When I gave you a reading, you neglected to mention anything about The Sun card, which meant you have a promising future with happieness.

My philosophy is that everyone is responsible for what befalls upon them. As much as I would like to, I can't blame other people for my loneliness and isolation. The people around me are reflections of myself.

My spirit is responsible for picking my parents, my environment, and everyone else that surrounds me in this life. The same goes for you. We all have karma and we all have it both positive and negative. Yes I do believe in Destiny and I also believe that Free will works in unison.

Everything that happens to us is for the best no matter what. I have no doubt that you won't make it through. You are far more advanced in The Craft compared to myself or anyone else on this board.

I was probably in a bad mood and I read you the wrong way. And for that I am sorry. I must have distorted your words in my state of my mind at the time.

Right now I'm curious to know, what they've done to you recently? Haven't you been turning back to your studies? What do you want to do about them, exactly?

-StarLover

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posted September 19, 2003 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
I like to start off this post by thanking those of you that have giving light,love,prayers and most of all,ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT! I highly appreciate it and I only wish the same for all of you with the same reverence! Again, THANK YOU!

OK, now Starlover, the thing is that here is what I need from you (and anybody else) is as many answers from the ones that have they're own gifts that I DON"T have and that I need an anchor to this "Ship" in order to have any idea what I need to do,the people that we have mentioned so far, using they're gifts for WAR and not for Love! These are misguided souls that are selling themselves to the "Dark one" for power and control and is being granted just that. I reflect on to them for the fact maybe to who I am,what I got,what have you,BUT the one thing that is for certain,no matter how much powerful ANYBODY is,they will never really be able to decide for anybody other then themselves! If God doesn't do it to us,why should we be able to do it to eachother? We can't! What we can do however,is to pull a con job to a person to manipulate that person to our "Will",depends on how much of a bullsh*ter we can be and this is the way that she(the Queen of Swords)has managed to trick them,by using simple "parlor tricks and "femanine whails" in order to get her way. This is called "Cause and Effect"! Their is no such thing as in "controlling" a person,just a situation or anybody elses situation as well. She has manage to do that to me!

The thing that I am trying to do now is to imagine that her magick is like a flowing river(that I've have been on the receaving end of)and use the projection to see it in the old Indian lores,such as the base of her magick is from "Mother Earth" and the base of my magick is from "Father Sky". She is able to vere her magick towards me and push me with her river of magick on to the hard rocks and the trees(that are in a way). But I summon the clouds in the sky to turn black and to rumble and jetison a lightning bolt to strike a nearby tree,burst the tree into splinter and take the wind to blow the major parts of the tree to fall upon the river in line of her magick's path. The result will bring her that her own magick will only flood HER out and to take that magick of hers and bring to back from where it came from. To form a dam between us inturn to releave me from her magick and replace the side that I'm on with God,Love and a White light. Lets see if this works!

I need from you,is to be a beckon and to use your cards and to try to determine the both of us to see how we are doing from either side,she will not let me see what she doing(to see what her next move will be)so I never know what would be her next move. THIS IS NOT A GAME!:This is very dangerous and I do advise anybody that is taking note not to try to ever do this on they're own. (For those that are observing,this will be a learning experience for all of you.) But I will use the Love of God as my power,all I need from you is be my lighthouse and tell me just what you see,DON'T GET INVOLVED OTHER THEN THAT! I will do all of the foot work! And the head work too! This will a great help to me! Just tell me what you see,that's all!

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posted September 19, 2003 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
That is an excellent visualization.

I'll get back to you on the cards.

-StarLover

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posted September 19, 2003 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
She has the gift of sight,of course,where she sees everything. But I can place a wall,to block her sight to see anybody that is watching all this that is taking place(this is important,for she will not be able cast any spell on the one's that are watching,because they are really NOT involved,all you would be to her are "The Watchers" of the Nether World: A simple void with eyes that can see)"To every action is a reaction",but you create no action,so for eveything that comes from her,only hurts or even DRAINS her on her own behave!

The veil that covers you from her is a blinding light that she can't bare to look at!

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posted September 19, 2003 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message
"The Witching Hour" has already begun for here in the East coast on a Friday(Day of Venus)and I think that she might try to use the power of Isabel to draw power from,LET HER,for it is winding down quite fast and becomes a "Depression"! I think I also see a male in the mist that is working with her at this very moment as I speak,tell me if I'm right,Star.

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