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posted June 29, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

After a very accurate and insightful reading from Sunshine on Lindaland, I decided it would be a good idea to open a thread to discuss the history of the horary, its use in answering questions, and the methods of how to make and read a horary chart.

I will be adding more information here, soon, but feel free to comment if you have helpful hints, stories of using the horary, or questions

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posted June 29, 2011 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Horary astrology is an ancient branch of horoscopic astrology by which an astrologer attempts to answer a question by constructing a horoscope for the exact time at which the question was received and understood by the astrologer. There is disagreement amongst horary astrologers as to whether to use the location of the person who asks the question - the querent - or the location of the astrologer. Normally they are in the same place, but in modern times many astrologers work online and by telephone. These days the querent could be in Australia and send an email with the question to an astrologer in Europe. The horoscope would in this case be radically different. Many European practitioners take the location of the querent, but there are strong voices in traditional English schools who advocate using the location of the astrologer.

The answer to the horary question might be a simple yes or no, but is generally more complex with insights into, for example, the motives of the questioner, the motives of others involved in the matter, and the options available to him. - Wiki P. Edia

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We are all trapped by a singular fate. - Bukowski

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posted June 29, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Guide To Horary Astrology (video)

http://www.videojug.com/film/a-guide-to-horary-astrology-2

Horary Astrology (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU8EAXwoFa8

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posted June 29, 2011 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Approach

Horary astrology has its own strict system. The position of and aspects to the moon are of prime importance. The person asking the question, or querent, is represented by the ruler of the sign the first house cusp falls on in the horoscope. Planetary aspects to the house cusps are considered more important than in other branches of astrology (although it is the planetary rulers of the houses in question that take precedent in analysis). Other key elements used in horary astrology include the lunar nodes, the planetary antiscia, the fixed stars and the Arabic parts.

Typically, a horary chart is read by first assigning the thing asked about, the quesited, to a particular house in the chart. For instance, asking "Where is my lost dog?" would be represented by the sixth house, as it is the house that governs small animals (traditionally, smaller than a goat). The house cusp of the sixth house will be in a particular sign, for example Libra. Libra is ruled by Venus, so Venus is considered the significator of the lost dog. Venus's state in the horoscope (its dignity, aspects, etc.) will give clues to the animal's location... - Wiki P. Edia

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posted June 29, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assigning Houses

Houses play a more crucial role in horary astrology than they do in other branches of astrology. Any house system preferred by the astrologer may be used, but commonly horary astrologers choose to divide the chart using the Regiomontanus house system.

Understanding the correct house for the context of the question is pivotal to the correct interpretation of a horary question. Everything can be assigned to a house and it is to that house, and its ruler, that the assignation of the quesited is derived. Whatever planet is ruling the sign on the cusp of the house is called the quesited. The context of the horary will often determine the house. For example, if the horary is about matters pertaining to career, the ruler of the 10th House, natural house for careers and jobs, will be the quesited.

A short, non-exhaustive, list of possible associations with houses follows:

The First House

The querent (person asking the question). The querent's general vitality and life force. It may also describe the querent's appearance or temperament. It is considered the 'ship that you sail in'.

The Second House

The querent's finance, wealth and general material and financial possessions. Moveable possessions as opposed to immovable possessions. Allies or supports for the querent, such as your lawyer in court cases. Any personal (moveable) goods and belongings, immovable possessions such as houses are fourth house. Questions about the value of any of your possessions would be second house, for example the buying and selling of a car would be second house (not third).

The Third House

Siblings, neighbours and the local neighbourhood. Any general concern about relatives may be considered third house. Communications and contracts. General comings and goings and short journeys and travels. Letters, emails and paperwork. (Cars may be second or third depending on the context of the question- in matters of travel, the third may be used, in matters pertaining to the value of the car, or of buying or selling a car, then the second may be used.)

The Fourth House

Parents generally but the father in particular( the mother in Indian system ). Immovable possessions as opposed to moveable possessions, e.g. your houses, garden, orchard. Mines, oil, buried treasure and anything which comes from the 'bowels of the earth'.

The Fifth House

Children, love affairs and sex (not the eighth house). Gambling, speculation, games and pleasure. Any venue that caters to our pleasures or provide entertainment including restaurants, pubs/taverns, theatres and music venues.

The Sixth House

Illness and disease or sickness. Also servants, or anyone who works for you, such as a plumber, electrician or anyone in your employ. Pets and small animals, traditionally considered smaller than a goat (larger animals are twelfth house).
The Seventh House
Marriage, partners and partnerships - both business and personal. Competitors and opponents of all kinds. It is the house of open enemies, by which it is meant enemies that you are aware of. Hidden enemies are the twelfth house. If no other house suffices, use the seventh house to represent 'any old person'.

The Eighth House

Death, fears and anxiety. Inheritances, taxes and wills. It is also commonly used to indicate the financial status of partners or opponents (see 'Turning the chart' below).

The Ninth House

Long distance travel, or, travel to unknown or 'exotic' locations. Foreigners and foreign lands. Universities and students of any subject of higher education such as doctors, lawyers, priests and astrologers. Visions, dreams and religion, as well as churches and philosophies. Books. Pilgrimages or journeys for spiritual or religious reasons.

The Tenth House

Career, jobs, employers and persons of authority. Heads of state, the government generally, judges and royalty. It is also commonly used to indicate the property belonging to the partner or opponent (see 'Turning the chart' below).

The Eleventh House

Close friends or groups. Wishes, hopes and aspirations. It is considered the house of 'Good Fortune' and is often likened to 'pennies from heaven'. It is commonly used to infer the income from a profession or job as well as state benefits (see 'Turning the chart' below).

The Twelfth House

Secrets, hidden motives and enemies, captivity, imprisonment and self-undoing. Things not yet known to the querent. Any form of non-voluntary bondage or captivity, monastries, being voluntary and religious are ninth house. Witchcraft or any manner of secretly undermining the querent.

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posted June 29, 2011 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was my chart for my Horary reading, last night:

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posted June 29, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html

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posted June 29, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is excellent, PlutoSquared!! Horary is one of my favorite subjects..

I'll read over the information above, and see what more I can add to it from my library of links.


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posted June 29, 2011 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent, I am VERY interested in learning about the horary, now.

I have a pdf book that was helpful, and I'd like to add for others:
http://books.google.com/books?id=pzaPpyZFzpEC&lpg=PA187&ots=7at12yZ_gf&dq=horary%2C%20instructions&pg=PA187#v=onepage&q=horary,%20instructions&f=false

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posted June 29, 2011 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Instructions on how to make a horary chart (please read information on appropriate ways to form horary question/how to read horary before jumping into this):

"Chart for Now" on www.astro.com

Go to website
Click on "Free Horoscopes"
Scroll down to bottom of page,
Where it says in small print (under special), "Direct Atlas Query"

Enter in birthplace of querent (your location) and make your chart...

Now, you have your horary chart made!

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posted June 29, 2011 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.serenapowers.com/horary.html

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posted June 30, 2011 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Skyscripts: Introduction to The Horary
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary.html

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posted June 30, 2011 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i do not trust horary now as i used to. because i drew a chart for my ex- if he was missing me. the chart ruler was not in accordance with the chart ruler and some astrologers said the chart was invalid. yet whatever the chart depicted about our coming back to each other, communicating and the card being in my hand because i was the stronger planet, played out exactly like that.
i had drawn another chart too which gave a clear NO answer, m just waiting for that to be proved wrong too and then i will post both charts with actual results.

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posted June 30, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, THE BASICS:

What I'm learning so far is the importance of these planets in the horary reading:

Moon

Sun

Venus

Mars

Jupiter

Saturn

(Neptune and Pluto seem to be "other characters" that traditional horary readings didn't include, though some do, and they really work well)

Anyhow, of the MOST importance it seems is what the MOON is doing in the horary chart... what aspects it's making and in light of the question.

The NEXT biggie, is the "Significator" of the chart. Look at the ascendant of the chart, the planet that RULES that Astrological sign, in consideration to the next rules I'll list below, is your SIGNIFICATOR... this planet will be YOU, and the characteristics of this planet should have some relevance to YOU.

Significators in Horary

The person who asks the question is called the querent. The querent is always primarily signified by the planet that rules the ascendant. The condition of the 1st house, any planets in the 1st house and the Moon will also help to describe the querent and his or her circumstances.


The person or issue asked about is called the quesited. It is described by the house that naturally governs that matter and it is signified by the planet that rules the cusp of that house. Again, you will want to consider any other planets located in that house as offering further descriptive information, but you only have one main significator for the quesited, and that is the planetary ruler of the sign on the cusp.


The Moon is a general significator for the whole situation. It may be helping to represent the querent or describing surrounding circumstances, or it could be describing the movement of events or deeply related issues that may not be immediately apparent from the question. It always demands some attention.

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posted June 30, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planetary Rulership over SIGNS:

Leo - Sun

Cancer - Moon

(day)Gemini - Mercury - Virgo(night)

(night)Taurus - Venus - Libra(day)

(day)Aries - Mars - Scorpio(night)

(n)Pisces - Jupiter -Sagittarius(day)

(day)Aquarius - Saturn - Capricorn(n)


So, if the chart ascendant is Aquarius, your significator would be Saturn

If the chart ascendant is LEO, your chart significator will be Sun

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posted July 01, 2011 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great stuff! You should post it in Astrology 2.0 also to get more input.

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posted July 02, 2011 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More people should see this info. Really informative.

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posted July 03, 2011 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread was added to Astro 2.0
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209075.html

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