Author
|
Topic: All About The Horary
|
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:23 PM
After a very accurate and insightful reading from Sunshine on Lindaland, I decided it would be a good idea to open a thread to discuss the history of the horary, its use in answering questions, and the methods of how to make and read a horary chart. I will be adding more information here, soon, but feel free to comment if you have helpful hints, stories of using the horary, or questions  IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:24 PM
Horary astrology is an ancient branch of horoscopic astrology by which an astrologer attempts to answer a question by constructing a horoscope for the exact time at which the question was received and understood by the astrologer. There is disagreement amongst horary astrologers as to whether to use the location of the person who asks the question - the querent - or the location of the astrologer. Normally they are in the same place, but in modern times many astrologers work online and by telephone. These days the querent could be in Australia and send an email with the question to an astrologer in Europe. The horoscope would in this case be radically different. Many European practitioners take the location of the querent, but there are strong voices in traditional English schools who advocate using the location of the astrologer.The answer to the horary question might be a simple yes or no, but is generally more complex with insights into, for example, the motives of the questioner, the motives of others involved in the matter, and the options available to him. - Wiki P. Edia ------------------ We are all trapped by a singular fate. - Bukowski IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:24 PM
A Guide To Horary Astrology (video) http://www.videojug.com/film/a-guide-to-horary-astrology-2 Horary Astrology (video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU8EAXwoFa8 IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:25 PM
ApproachHorary astrology has its own strict system. The position of and aspects to the moon are of prime importance. The person asking the question, or querent, is represented by the ruler of the sign the first house cusp falls on in the horoscope. Planetary aspects to the house cusps are considered more important than in other branches of astrology (although it is the planetary rulers of the houses in question that take precedent in analysis). Other key elements used in horary astrology include the lunar nodes, the planetary antiscia, the fixed stars and the Arabic parts. Typically, a horary chart is read by first assigning the thing asked about, the quesited, to a particular house in the chart. For instance, asking "Where is my lost dog?" would be represented by the sixth house, as it is the house that governs small animals (traditionally, smaller than a goat). The house cusp of the sixth house will be in a particular sign, for example Libra. Libra is ruled by Venus, so Venus is considered the significator of the lost dog. Venus's state in the horoscope (its dignity, aspects, etc.) will give clues to the animal's location... - Wiki P. Edia IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:25 PM
Assigning HousesHouses play a more crucial role in horary astrology than they do in other branches of astrology. Any house system preferred by the astrologer may be used, but commonly horary astrologers choose to divide the chart using the Regiomontanus house system. Understanding the correct house for the context of the question is pivotal to the correct interpretation of a horary question. Everything can be assigned to a house and it is to that house, and its ruler, that the assignation of the quesited is derived. Whatever planet is ruling the sign on the cusp of the house is called the quesited. The context of the horary will often determine the house. For example, if the horary is about matters pertaining to career, the ruler of the 10th House, natural house for careers and jobs, will be the quesited. A short, non-exhaustive, list of possible associations with houses follows: The First House The querent (person asking the question). The querent's general vitality and life force. It may also describe the querent's appearance or temperament. It is considered the 'ship that you sail in'. The Second House The querent's finance, wealth and general material and financial possessions. Moveable possessions as opposed to immovable possessions. Allies or supports for the querent, such as your lawyer in court cases. Any personal (moveable) goods and belongings, immovable possessions such as houses are fourth house. Questions about the value of any of your possessions would be second house, for example the buying and selling of a car would be second house (not third). The Third House Siblings, neighbours and the local neighbourhood. Any general concern about relatives may be considered third house. Communications and contracts. General comings and goings and short journeys and travels. Letters, emails and paperwork. (Cars may be second or third depending on the context of the question- in matters of travel, the third may be used, in matters pertaining to the value of the car, or of buying or selling a car, then the second may be used.) The Fourth House Parents generally but the father in particular( the mother in Indian system ). Immovable possessions as opposed to moveable possessions, e.g. your houses, garden, orchard. Mines, oil, buried treasure and anything which comes from the 'bowels of the earth'. The Fifth House Children, love affairs and sex (not the eighth house). Gambling, speculation, games and pleasure. Any venue that caters to our pleasures or provide entertainment including restaurants, pubs/taverns, theatres and music venues. The Sixth House Illness and disease or sickness. Also servants, or anyone who works for you, such as a plumber, electrician or anyone in your employ. Pets and small animals, traditionally considered smaller than a goat (larger animals are twelfth house). The Seventh House Marriage, partners and partnerships - both business and personal. Competitors and opponents of all kinds. It is the house of open enemies, by which it is meant enemies that you are aware of. Hidden enemies are the twelfth house. If no other house suffices, use the seventh house to represent 'any old person'. The Eighth House Death, fears and anxiety. Inheritances, taxes and wills. It is also commonly used to indicate the financial status of partners or opponents (see 'Turning the chart' below). The Ninth House Long distance travel, or, travel to unknown or 'exotic' locations. Foreigners and foreign lands. Universities and students of any subject of higher education such as doctors, lawyers, priests and astrologers. Visions, dreams and religion, as well as churches and philosophies. Books. Pilgrimages or journeys for spiritual or religious reasons. The Tenth House Career, jobs, employers and persons of authority. Heads of state, the government generally, judges and royalty. It is also commonly used to indicate the property belonging to the partner or opponent (see 'Turning the chart' below). The Eleventh House Close friends or groups. Wishes, hopes and aspirations. It is considered the house of 'Good Fortune' and is often likened to 'pennies from heaven'. It is commonly used to infer the income from a profession or job as well as state benefits (see 'Turning the chart' below). The Twelfth House Secrets, hidden motives and enemies, captivity, imprisonment and self-undoing. Things not yet known to the querent. Any form of non-voluntary bondage or captivity, monastries, being voluntary and religious are ninth house. Witchcraft or any manner of secretly undermining the querent.
IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:26 PM
This was my chart for my Horary reading, last night: IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:26 PM
Excellent, and FREE introduction (with tests included) of the Horary method:http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:26 PM
Excellent, I am VERY interested in learning about the horary, now.I have a pdf book that was helpful, and I'd like to add for others: http://books.google.com/ books?id=pzaPpyZFzpEC&lpg=PA187&ots=7at12yZ_gf&dq=horary%2C%20instructions&pg=PA187#v=onepage&q=horary,%20instructions&f=false IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:27 PM
Instructions on how to make a horary chart (please read information on appropriate ways to form horary question/how to read horary before jumping into this): "Chart for Now" on www.astro.com Go to website Click on "Free Horoscopes" Scroll down to bottom of page, Where it says in small print (under special), "Direct Atlas Query" Enter in birthplace of querent (your location) and make your chart... Now, you have your horary chart made! IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:28 PM
http://www.serenapowers.com/horary.html IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:28 PM
Ok, THE BASICS:What I'm learning so far is the importance of these planets in the horary reading: Moon Sun Venus Mars Jupiter Saturn (Neptune and Pluto seem to be "other characters" that traditional horary readings didn't include, though some do, and they really work well) Anyhow, of the MOST importance it seems is what the MOON is doing in the horary chart... what aspects it's making and in light of the question. The NEXT biggie, is the "Significator" of the chart. Look at the ascendant of the chart, the planet that RULES that Astrological sign, in consideration to the next rules I'll list below, is your SIGNIFICATOR... this planet will be YOU, and the characteristics of this planet should have some relevance to YOU. Significators in Horary The person who asks the question is called the querent. The querent is always primarily signified by the planet that rules the ascendant. The condition of the 1st house, any planets in the 1st house and the Moon will also help to describe the querent and his or her circumstances. The person or issue asked about is called the quesited. It is described by the house that naturally governs that matter and it is signified by the planet that rules the cusp of that house. Again, you will want to consider any other planets located in that house as offering further descriptive information, but you only have one main significator for the quesited, and that is the planetary ruler of the sign on the cusp.
The Moon is a general significator for the whole situation. It may be helping to represent the querent or describing surrounding circumstances, or it could be describing the movement of events or deeply related issues that may not be immediately apparent from the question. It always demands some attention.
IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:29 PM
Planetary Rulership over SIGNS:Leo - Sun Cancer - Moon (day)Gemini - Mercury - Virgo(night) (night)Taurus - Venus - Libra(day) (day)Aries - Mars - Scorpio(night) (n)Pisces - Jupiter -Sagittarius(day) (day)Aquarius - Saturn - Capricorn(n) So, if the chart ascendant is Aquarius, your significator would be Saturn
If the chart ascendant is LEO, your chart significator will be Sun IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 02, 2011 02:33 PM
This thread was also posted on the Through The Looking Glass forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/000730.html ------------------ We are all trapped by a singular fate. - Bukowski IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 02, 2011 08:48 PM
you don't know what you're getting yourself into.. but good luck, you're gonna need it. :PIP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1098 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted July 02, 2011 11:56 PM
hmm, I know some of what she's getting into, and it's not that huge a deal. It takes earnestness to learn something new, which she's got in plenty, and she'll go far.IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:34 AM
sunshine, i know she will i'm just saying horary is not the easiest branch of astrology to learn. a fried brain is an inevitable price...but a worth one, no doubt...i think i came across more serious then i really was, i love horary, even when it makes me act a little carzy! and once someone gets their foot in, there's no out...i doubt my little comment would be enough to deter her from it, and if it did, horary is not for her!!! IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:40 AM
i'd love it if we had more horary things here i've tried getting ppl into it a couple times here, but there wasn't enough interest.but i mean you can't deny that it takes an *extra* level of persistance, dedication, etc. i just find it funny how crazy it makes me!!lol, and thought i'd warn her that the same thing will happen to her once or twice, but again, it's something you gotta laugh at, and just keep plowing forward IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1098 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:40 AM
Did you get sucked up into it, hmm? I sure did.. I've been crazed enough to try several in a week as I was learning, but I've since learned to do it in moderation - only when truly necessary! I still find some charts can confound interpretation.. the Universe does not want to answer repetitive questions. And timing can be such a pain to figure out!!  Sunshine IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1098 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:42 AM
hmm, Well maybe we can get some folks interested.. I'd love to see it used more (when warranted), and PS is keen as well! Sunshine IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:45 AM
big time i tried answering other peoples questions. but then someone comes along and is like no no no, that's all wrong, you for got about these other million details. i've never been right about one thing, at least not one whole charti never ask more than once, just when my heart is really in it. i'm recovering from my last attempt to try to analyze one of MY charts, i think i'll go back to it in about a week or so. BUT IT'S HARD IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1098 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:50 AM
hmm,Now I'm curious to see if perhaps a third person POV might help.. I'd be glad to take a look if you'd like. Email it to me if you'd like me to take a peek. Sunshine IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:52 AM
i wouldn't want to do it here if there are no experts.cuz then we're just going to reinforce negative habbits, and spread A WHOLE LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION, this is a field where you have to be exceedingly prescis IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted July 03, 2011 12:53 AM
ok thx. it was a while ago but that doesn't mean we can't go through it  what's your emailIP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: May 2013
|
posted July 03, 2011 01:00 AM
Do the two of you have any books to recommend? I have intentions to work on this thread for a while...Always time to pick up a good book and add to the thread as I go along... IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1098 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted July 03, 2011 01:00 AM
Well, we certainly don't want to reinforce wrong information, so we'll have to be extra careful to do it right.  My email addy is listed in the Asteroid forum if you mouse over my name..IP: Logged | |