posted January 06, 2015 03:33 PM            

My relationship planets are quite different.

Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house
quinkunx Saturn
- Uranus, Venus(Taurus), Saturn - influence

Venus in Capricorn in 1st house
square Pluto
widely sextile Jupiter and Uranus
- Saturn - Mars - Pluto influence
subtle Jupiter-Uranus influence

Mercury, ruler of 7th house in Sagittarius conjunct Sun
- Mercury - Jupiter - Sun influence

Venus, ruler of 5t house, in Capricorn in 1st
square pluto
(reinforcing the Taurus-Saturn-Mars-Pluto-theme in terms of romance)

Moon, ruler of 8th house, in Aquarius in 2nd, quinkunx Saturn; Saturn in 8th
- Cancer - Uranus - Taurus
- double Saturn influence

You see what the common theme of my relationship, especially romance houses is?
Saturn, and to a lesser degree Uranus

My Mars-Neptune might be highly dreamy and all, but when it comes to actual romance or relationship it is as Saturn-Pluto-Uranus as it can be. lol

posted January 06, 2015 03:40 PM            

(1) JUPITER disposes/ rules
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Sun - Mercury - Mars- Neptune

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Uranus (trad. disp. by Mars)

(2) SATURN (though paired with Moon) disp.
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Moon (Aqua) - Venus (Cap)

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Saturn (disp. Moon)

Pluto (disp. Venus)

See what happens in my dispositor trees?
sharp split between Yang and Yin planets.

the masculine and intellectual planets being guided by Jupiter, and as if that was not idealistic enough, this includes Uranus and Neptune

the feminine and relational planets being guidd by Saturn, and not gloomy enough, this is intensified by Pluto`s presence.

posted January 06, 2015 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, I forgot to say something important, Ceri, a bit earthy, not PG rated. The Ace of Wands also stands for erection, the baton rising, sorry if I'm too graphic here, so whenever we see this in a spread about a gentleman feeling something for a lady, if the context allows for that, you can bet he desires her, she turns him on big time and this kind of attraction is a big part of his motivation. With the HP, he may try to conceal it sorry again if I'm too graphic here lol

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posted January 06, 2015 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know I am disgressing, and will stop after this one, but look at my two dispositor trees (using traditional rulership)

(1) JUPITER disposes/ rules
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Sun - Mercury - Mars- Neptune

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posted January 06, 2015 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Maybe it was the next card you were supposed to pull Leeloo after the Magician for my outcome LMAO!!!!

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no need for that, the Magician has something rising too...magically!

posted January 06, 2015 04:46 PM            

I have been thinking of that actually.

"she turns him on big time and this kind of attraction is a big part of his motivation. With the HP, he may try to conceal it"
Funny thing.

Maybe I was missing the point, or reading too much into the subtext... buuuuuut

last concert?

Well though I was at that time not totally sure about it, he did spot me in the crowd (when does he ever not?), and well, as a matter of fact, before the lights were switched on, he was taking pictures of the audience, through the closed curtain. lol
Just one picture, it appeared on his friend`s fb page the day , with the title: "Big Brother is watching you..."

And well, I thought it was strange, the angle from which it was taken, put me into the focus. Maybe it was just a coincidence.

Anyway when they come on stage for the concert to begin, that friend (he is the drummer) made some remarks associating the need for ice and Mr Sags`s trousers, which the man himself - for once- did not get into and used it as a platform for a joke, but this time simply smoothed over it and very quickly talking about something different, and well, for the first couple of minutes spending much time either behing the piano or even guitar, or even off stage (but as he said he had not eaten that day - well noone really asked, except for the drummer why he was running on and off stage all the time. Boys! He clearly wanted to tease him about something, but that must have been an inside joke, not meant for me or anyone else in the audience to undrstand.)

And no I do not really think this had anything to do with me. I just was very startled the next day to see that I was not as invisible as I had thought I was. Though of course considering this it actually make sense why he was staring at a certain spot in the darkness. And even at times readjusting his microphone so he could keep on staring at the spot in the dcarkness.
I did not REALLY think he could be seeing me, and if he did, why should he keep on looking? *sighs*
He did though, and since I thought I was invisible, I might have done one or two things I would never ever do, if I had thought someone could see me. (No, nothing bad, but I told you how introvert I am, so even just stepping out into the aisle, because there was a giant sitting inf ront of me, and I had to step out into the aisle to be able to see the lead singer, and hey, that was what I had been coming for, right? I was not really wanting to see the back of the head of the giant before me.
So I guess, the darkness not as dark as I thought, me standing, me standing in the aisle, leading directly to stage (luckily I was not the only one standing, but I think closest to stage - which was still several metres away, though not as many as I had hoped and thought. lol)

I really put myself onto display this time, didn`t I?
It certainly had not been my intention.

You recall the refrain of "Blurred lines"?

"I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talkin' about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it (I hate them lines)
I know you want it (I hate them lines)
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead get at me"

Well, he was singing it once again, and he has the tendency to emphasize the tune not just through motion but also through gestures (was that non-graphic enough?)

I remember he did that, too, on the open air concert in june. Back then I hardly could look at him, and felt like I would be constantly blushing and searching for a hole to crawl into. (he has also the habit to stare right at me, at certain points, when it really makes me shift uncomfortably on my seat, as there is never a hole nearby when you need one to crawl into. As of now I think he might do that intentionally.lol Gosh I am such a prude!)

Well, it was differnt on the last concert, First of all he is the exhibitionist, I am jsut there to enjoy the show.
Secondly, I did not REALLY think I could be seen.

But show and invisibility or not, it was just a little imaginary playing I think (at least I fabricated this story in my mind as justification or something like that. ), nevertheless it was ... something else.

It was also the last song before the break, which was a good thing.

At least to me there were some moments that were quite charged, even though it was all just within the frame of the show, just playing around and fun. nothing to really talk about. just a bit of a party. lol

Felt surely like a bit of Ace of wands moments to me.
Damn it, how on earth did I get the idea to book a seat in first row for friday?

But it will be a serious concert, as serious it can be with him on stage, but that will be different than the half informal concerts that often resemble jam sessions or parties with live music rather than real concerts (you know the kind, where you keep sitting on your chair, this I mean with serious and real concerts. lol).

posted January 06, 2015 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

no need for that, the Magician has something rising too...magically!

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Hmm, then could we get back to discuss the 4 of swords and the Magician again?

posted January 07, 2015 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hmm, then could we get back to discuss the 4 of swords and the Magician again?

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Awesome story, Ceri, hilarious! And that song lol

posted January 07, 2015 05:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Shall I put some cards for you, LeeLoo?

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Sure, my sweetie, whenever you feel like it.

posted January 07, 2015 11:07 AM            

i pulled the following cards for the of 2 using the scheme you have.

Clues about his general attitude towards u

8 of pentacles
4 of swords rev
5 of swords rev
-> i have the feeling that he thinks "whatever I do, never seems enough for her". Also, he may think that he has a rival he can't deal with

His present thoughts/feelings about u

10 of cups
3 of pentacles
Ace of wands
-> he thinks and feels that there still could be a happy ending, that you could be the one and he's willing to fight

His current intentions/actions that will follow

high priestess rev
6 of wands
temperance
-> he ignores ur upper hand in the relationship (i am not saying you are the upper hand but i think he thinks that) and that he wants to fight for the relationship- in a way u won't notice too much

Next stage between us:

eremit
3 of wands rev
2 of swords
-> you won't have too much contact and I think that there will be some lonely moments, some despair. As if the 2 of you need to re-consider ur relationship resp. you don't know what to do.

I am a bit surprised about the next stage. the cards show that he really likes you and that he is not intending to give up.

Does that resonate?

posted January 07, 2015 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Will he fight?
-> i had to think what my dead mentor said about men conquering a woman's heart: the man needs to conquer several instances/steps to get to the core of a woman's heart. Some fail, some don't.
He said, if a man fails he either leaves the woman or he becomes weaker and weaker and weaker- and the woman becomes more manly. Did you ever see old couples where the woman is very domineering resp. not very lady-like?
I personally had the feeling that your man is going through that process. He is about to conquer one instance of your heart and at the moment he's not able to do so.

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So he's getting weaker or stronger?

OK, I'll tell you this: the conquering and fighting is about him conquering a part of himself, fighting it and letting it go, if it makes sense. Me is only on the other side of him winning that battle. It's not about him conquering my heart, although he'll probably have to do this too, every day

Very nice thing your mentor said, BTW.

My question to you is: do you feel in him the power to overcome and destroy a part of himself he needs to give up?

posted January 07, 2015 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have the feeling (and your posts underline that) that he still needs to decide if he wants to change himself.

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Absolutely! I'm sorry if you had this feeling from my posts that I would impose anything, because that's not my style. I would never be that "manly" lady you described on the contrary, if a man needs that, he doesn't need me. A man has to very "manly" to be with me.

I don't have another lover, but he knows I have male friends, he is a very jealous person, he doesn't believe they want just my friendship, perhaps that's why you saw the "rival", now he probably thinks that, after breaking up with him, I will be with one of those men . So what you saw is something in his mind: Scorpio Moon.

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