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Randall
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posted November 22, 2000 09:33 AM
 
Is time travel possible? If so, what would the implications be in trying to change or alter the past? Are there certain Energy vortexes in the world that open the barriers of time? Was Linda's Cripple Creek home built on such a vortex? I have much to reveal about this Topic, but I would like to see what you guys think first.  ------------------
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gooberlily
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posted November 23, 2000 12:27 AM
The key to time travel is not for us to try and move, but for us to try and stop and let things come around to us. Maybe the Universe is spinning so fast, at a constant speed, in all areas, that within split seconds we alternate between one side of the Universe and the other. We can't tell we're spinning, because everything around us is spinning at almost the same rate, and we have no background to compare it to. It's not like we can see outside this Universe at this point in time. You see a pretty horse on the other side of the Merry-Go-Round. Jump off the Merry-Go-Round, and then jump back on again. It requires more instant effort to jump off a Merry-Go-Round and then jump back on, but greater sustained effort to walk around the Merry-Go-Round to catch the pretty horse ;-)You shouldn't trust what I say, since I also believe the Universe is a mass of concentric circles wrapped up like a ball of yarn of sorts in a saddle shape and the galaxies travel around in and black holes are the rips between the rings. And the gravity from the celestial bodies including the sun, moon and planets while in their orbit rest on a plane of time that can be slightly indented by the gravitational weight. Kind of like walking on a trampoline. A rubber ducky floating in a pool. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 23, 2000 12:31 AM
Sounds perfectly logical to me!  ------------------
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Randall
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posted November 24, 2000 03:36 AM
Let's say that I travel back in time to kill Hitler. If I am successful, perhaps the world will be a better place. Before I leave in my time machine (or whatever), I say goodbye to the people who are there wiih me as I depart. I travel back in time and kill Hitler as a baby. The whole Hitler thing is averted. But back home (where I said goodbye to you all), nothing has changed. Hitler has still existed. What happened is that I created a new timeline that branches off on its own. In THAT timeline, there was no Hitler. It is a parallel world. I could return to THAT future or to the place where I left. Ahh, quantum physics... ------------------
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YIVY
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posted November 24, 2000 11:39 AM
QUANTUM PHYSICS was invented to give us something to do in our spare time!   ------------------
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Randall
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posted April 14, 2001 10:48 PM
Up, up, and away in my beautiful my beautiful balloon...  (Or at least up to the top!)------------------
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gooberlily
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posted April 14, 2001 11:04 PM
 Hmm, I was just thinking about something last night having to do with time travel, and my bro Andy brought up a good point. Okay, let's say you start time travelling backwards...and right now you're "50" years old. Let's say you want to travel 60 years into the past. Could you do it, or would you become younger as you travelled back in time...thinking of yourself as being affected by time, instead of outside it, or controlling it. How weird would that be? How scary would that be? Someone gets into a chair (let's just say) and plans to travel into the past...and winds up shrinking and shrinking... My head hurts  IP: Logged |
August Mobius
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posted April 16, 2001 03:07 PM
gooberlily, your train of thought on many of these threads is advanced indeed. Time travel has always been a favorite subject of mine, it is very mentally stimulating. "Science" says that a time machine could not regress beyond its point of creation. I suppose this makes sense, but experience tells me otherwise. Our non-physical counterparts are natural time travelers. Whatever it is that we do, especially physically, we remain within our own linear time field. We can loop backward (or forward) to whatever extent but we, as creatures of time and space (in this perspective) continue to operate within the linear confines our own, individual, time field (even from a quantum perspective). If you have ever traveled "astrally" in either direction, you have done this (so I think you have done this  ).Anyway, great topic and insights! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 16, 2001 06:26 PM
Ahh, science--it also says that we cannot change the past, since it has already occurred, but quantum physics puts that all to rest, because we would merely create a different timeline separate from the one in which we left.  Very profound thoughts, August (as always). ------------------
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gooberlily
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posted April 16, 2001 09:30 PM
Yes August, I have "time travelled" without my body, though I try not to bring it up often, only because it is a bit of selfish time travel I suppose, as it relates to me and people around me I see...I don't see humanity as a whole when I "time travel". I enjoy more travelling without the limits of my earth body at this point in time, and I agree with your perceptions whole heartedly. I hope that others will explore these infinite possibilities.
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raj_105_2001
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posted April 25, 2001 12:35 AM
Hi friends,
I think the Universe can be interpreted from multiple points of view and all points of view may be right. I personally feel that Randall may be right after all. The catch there is, it is possible that Hitler borning and not borning both would have happenned and proceeded in separate timelines. That is to say, every second, there are infinite number of timelines branching off. It must be a natural part of the Universe progressing. Another view of Time travel is that there is no really time at all. There is only an "Eternal Now" which Linda talked about much. What we see as time is a shadow, a projection of this Eternal Now ( again from Linda). So to get back in time all we have to do is to get into this "Eternal City" (as I call it) where there is no time and from there "tunnel" into a specific time zone. What you people think?------------------
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Randall
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posted April 25, 2001 12:56 AM
I couldn't agree more, Raj!  ------------------
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Ra
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posted April 25, 2001 03:20 AM
Raj, no doubt about it! But speaking within the context of perceived time, which we are experiencing, I think is the gist of what they are talking. It seems we are all on the same quantum page here!  IP: Logged |
thegreyone
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posted April 25, 2001 09:01 AM
I couldn't have said it better myself. ------------------
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YIVY
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posted April 25, 2001 04:35 PM
Very good stuff, Raj... ------------------
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gooberlily
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posted April 25, 2001 11:22 PM
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LMB
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posted April 27, 2001 12:04 PM
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Australdi
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posted April 27, 2001 08:21 PM
Am I allowed to play  s advocate here??  So I am living my everyday life.....and every choice I or another makes creates an alternate time line....Am I participating in all the timelines simultaneusly? Am I choosing which one to participate in at each particular time....in the act of choosing which timeline, I am creating more time lines...Can I actually travel between time lines??? ...wouldn't that mean that in "everyday" life people would be "poofing" in and out of each others realities?, and each time creating a new timeline?...
seems this excessive creation of new timelines is gonna create a lot of universal noise bars unless we can develop an orgamism that eats the excess timelines, then excretes them as one continuous being....  if you're in the timeline it chooses to eat though...(does it's choice of which time line to eat create a new time line???)
hhmmm....it's begining to sound like Stephen King's "Gondoliers"...now that was a trippy theory! how are we going?? headaches anyone??
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YIVY
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posted April 27, 2001 10:25 PM
HEADACHES....all my multi-sELVES felt that 'echo' and ran for the asprin...  I wonder if like the AMBER series there is only one true world and the rest are descending shadows or 'echos'? Each self just a bit less than the preceeding one...until the ends ones near chaos and don't hold too well. Thereby making it harder and harder to react with the lesser worlds, only the ones closest to the true. ------------------
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gooberlily
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posted April 27, 2001 10:26 PM
Hey Australdi, I was just thinking of that Stephen King thing when you were talking about time lines being eaten. Was it the Langoliers though?? I can't remember, it's been a while. I must confess I didn't read it, I saw the tv movie  Spooked me out enough though to get me thinking. I was also thinking of a movie from about 10 or so years ago I used to like when I was younger, I remember a plane went back in time or something. I think it was called "Millenium", but I'm not sure. My brain hurts, but that's okay...at least I know it's working!  Hi YIVY, I think we're on at the same time! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 28, 2001 12:56 AM
Ahh, but to those in any particular parallel Uni-verse, THAT is the real world (to them), and all others are the shadows! ------------------
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Australdi
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posted April 28, 2001 11:07 AM
OOps!!
yep, lily, you have the right of it...it was the Langoliers!!
and yes, you must read the book! it kicks the movie's donkey!!
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YIVY
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posted April 28, 2001 10:12 PM
So, Randall...it is true that......"Only the Shadow Knows....." [insert 'spooky' music ] A little like the Higher Self thingy.. ------------------
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Randall
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posted April 29, 2001 04:22 PM
What if our shadows had Consciousness? Actually, we are only mere shadows of the real us-of-us. ------------------
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Ra
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posted April 29, 2001 05:39 PM
Although some of "us" may be a bit more "solid!" IP: Logged |
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