posted February 09, 2004 10:52 AM         

the Birth number...

as the birth number is what is internal or of the spirit, then the birth number could be known as the spiritual path....

the number used for your spiritual wisdom in this existance.... so if you are numbered 1-9 then your path is all about exercising your spiritual wisdom and whatever you put into exercising it, will manifest in its opposite and become reality, since there is no KARMA to come from such a birth path.....

if born 10-31 of the month then you must interact with your karmic path through the lessons that each number has to give and balance it out in this incarnation in order for you to grow in wisdom and enlightenment for the soul...............................

depending on your birth number then this will depict what your path may be...............

PATH 2

the NAME number

material ambition and material reality come into force here.... as it is the number that you present on the world and the way others not known to you will see you, it can only have this effect. (it is like your rising sign/ascendant) as when you interact with another, you then show them the inside of you or close spiritual personality......

so assuming you all have a double karmic values for your names then this would be your path for your material side of life..........

gOOd luck in testing this path it sincerely works.....

love 4evagOOb.......

note.... path 2 is short and sweet for the one and only reason of the word Material....
if life were all about this then we would have no need to be here and we love HERE to much..... it feeds the SOUL... PATH 1

posted February 11, 2004 08:33 PM         

Love and Peace,
Dean.

posted February 11, 2004 08:36 PM         

time after time this system becomes infallable, it shows in everyday life and the deepest of all subconcious thought....

please digest what is written and try to blend it with your lifepath..........

the very concept of what is there is for you to test and only then judge...... for it is right or wrong, for me it sheds more light on LINDAS wisdom so far.......

love all forever

posted February 11, 2004 08:43 PM         

where did you come into naming yourself, was it not the divine right of your parents, and their own subconcious telling them what they really want for their child....

maybe if ur name number was fortunate then was it not the parents that were spiritually advanced and therefore passed on their fortune....... OR was it that the parents were selfish with no ethical or spiritual values, therefore because their desire for you was not of a spiritual value, then your name (karmic value) BACKFIRED.....

we never told our parents to name us, they already knew what they desired, and for me desire is stronger than any emotion at all...

love and light with astral blessing

posted February 11, 2004 09:14 PM         

and this i truly believe applies to all of us.....

only when we are deprived of the material world are we forced to look inside of ourselves for answers, whether it be financial or emotional the outcome is the same, we look at ourselves................

so YES sesame, you know the answers but have them in the wrong order, it was our parents grace and wisdom that forced us to look inside of ourselves. our name number (the effect on the material plane) forced into such submission and only now is our searching helping to satisfy our soul. WHY? because we are now looking inwards..... at the real us, the real me, the real you, the birth number or path you chose, the map of the stars (natal chart) which are both the same in karma, but 2 different studies or subjects............ we can only be forced to look within by others inflicting such vibrations and it is only them that know what they can see and that my friends is the MATERIAL PLANE.......... the outer you,

Rising sign or Ascendant, in astrology, its purpose is for definition of another, but it will never tell you anothers life path or circumstance, or even the true personality, but it will show you how YOU think they are..

posted February 11, 2004 10:20 PM         

One problem I have is that I'm a double three, and sag rising (three as well), so it's like I'm a triple three. I can't rell how strong my asc influences me compared to my name or number - there all the same, so maybe I'm incorrect in that I can't use myself as a test for this. However, the karmic numbers seem to work equally over my name (30) and date (12). I'm tending to think that my name is more powerful. Good stuff to think about though!

ps. I actually thought for ages I was LIKE a sag rising because of my double threes, but then found out I WAS a sag asc which threw me off!

posted February 12, 2004 09:06 AM         

3key (freaky) get it.... hehe ehehhe eh

sorry just had to do it.....

there no doubting it you are influenced by 3 and its ruler Jupiter...... and thats where you may think that 30 serves you better because of the analysis of 12..... but if you study your past and understanding of you, then you will find that you are more 12 by infuence of self, (12 student/teacher) and that 30 has guided you to this path.....

with sag rising, it may have been difficult to live such a path of 30, because of the need for excitement, but when you are reading this loner situation as 30 maybe you should see it as a trip in the number 12 (sacrifice/victim).........

its easy sometimes to see what we want to, its only much later that we realise its truths......

the material world is all about impact on the physical and emotional realms.... what you attain in life and how you make others feel about you..... its what is cause and effect, not which is learned inside, more which you learn others through your doings..

posted February 12, 2004 05:43 PM         

quote:

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The number 30 has the following meaning:
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The Number 30
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The Loner - Meditation
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This is a number of retrospection, thoughtful deduction, and mental
superiority over others. However, it belongs completely in the mental
plane, and those represented by it often put all material things to the
side, not because they have to, but because they wish to do so.
Consequently, the Compound number 30 is neither fortunate nor
unfortunate, because it can be either, depending entirely upon the
desire of the person (or entity) it represents. The vibration of 30 can
be all-powerful, but is often indifferent, according to the will of the
person. Those whose name equals 30, or who were born on the 30th day of
any month, generally count few people as their friends. They tend to be
taciturn loners, preferring to be alone with their own thoughts. Social
functions and public gatherings are not their style. 30 doesn't deny
happiness or success, but fulfilment is more often found in retreating
from the chaos of the market place so that one's mental superiority may
be used to develop something worthwhile to the world... to write ideas
which may change the world... or to protect and develop one's personal
talents, such as art or other gifts. It indicates a lonely, yet
frequently rewarding life pattern.
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as fitting me precisely. It explained why as a youngster I didn't like parties or people (even now) even though I am the heart of the party if I go (the gem thing). This number summed me up so perfectly, that I was stunned. The 12 is also me - I sacrifice myself, and have been a victim, but very rarely. I also constantly want to learn and teach, however the placidity of the 30 overrides and says "I don't have to teach". I may do what ever I want. Then I question what it means to have a meaningless life...

My point is that the 30 is my ENTIRE name. I am not the 20 of Dean Bausch, nor the 15 of Dean. Some people call me Deano (or Dino) but this I feel is also VERY minor. Also, some numbers just seem more powerful than others - hence why the 30 overrides. I believe it's the numbers that do everything, the name and birth are OURS-ELVES telling us what we need to learn, regardless of time or astrology, or what we are named. It is all US. But this is my take, having experienced my own life, and having learnt who I am regarding numbers.

Now, since I've shown you mine, can you show me yours? What is your full name number compared to the part name, and date of birth?

All (elvish) ears,
Dean.

ps. You can use my progam below to determine different formats of your name.

posted February 12, 2004 06:17 PM         

must be that gemini mind that was just teasing me all along.........

dean, deano, dino, dee-no..... whichever, you have already understood that it has NO relevance so why would i need to tell you different, you already know its concepts...

my point is....... you SHOULD appreciate your parents, have faith in there abilities and trust in you...... YOU have fulfilled so far, their motives at your birth (subconcious motive) have given them self-satisfaction...... for they gave you the grace of 30 and you have lived it for them...

but now you have reached the point where you are strong enough to explore your faith, spirit and ethics.... your soul has become part of you and with the wisdom you have learned it is helping you turn the power of 12 into its positive and reduce its negative.

if you do your karmic chart you will see the relevance of your parents in this matter.....
NO-ONE repeat NO-ONE can get away from these karmic influences of parental figures until we are strong enough to manifest the soul from within........ and thats when you will become you, the you of you. what i said was that you are now displaying the actions of 12, for it is 12 that desires education not 30, 30 already has it within the mind and uses it to their advantage (free will choice)..... an example could only be that on this site you would not see the true 30 birth path to nature we see you, but they would always be here in visualising others and reading its content......... where as 12 needs the content and to express their self in order to learn through pain and experience....... the kneeling submissive student or the master teacher..... self- sacrifice in order to file in order lifes pain and lessons..... forgetfulness of lessons previously learned... somehow you will fit in to these catorgaries only YOU know how.......

look lets face fact..... you are and truly are 3, double 3, treble3 and will inevitably become Master 3 for it is Jupiters sweeping visions and dreams which will have to manifest within you to find true happiness..

as for me....... well me? why me? ok then....

Libra sun, Leo asc, soul no.5, material path 27 (parents karma 16), rule zebra 14, mercury virgo........

enough for now...... and i am content with what i have and expect its laws around me...

4evagOOb....

posted February 19, 2004 05:53 PM         

WOW JUST AS WE WERE GETTING ALONG TOO.... HE RUN OFF ON ME.........

i just hope he hasnt gone forever, come back sesame, i'm sure we can make up.......

BY THE WAY I HAVE BOUGHT THIS BACK UP BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO READ AND SHARE OPINION...... OPINION MATTERS, WITHOUT OPINION YOU CANT GROW IN LIGHT.......

love and light

4evagOOb