posted March 26, 2004 01:44 PM         

Eleanore I appreciate your sharing with us very much. For me what you said is a very accurate account of what I experienced.

I believe that the 2000 years of peace has just started, but at the same time I feel we are in a period where the tail end of ascension is still going on and we still need to save ourselves and others.

Thanks Talaith,

It's really hard to explain. You know how in your head you picture something simple to explain but when you try it gets more complicated and more complicated and you realize the depth it has. I guess the best way is if you have any specific questions I can start there.

posted March 26, 2004 02:07 PM         

that when it comes to the Rapture/fundamentalist Christianity, I just don't like that God. I wouldn't like a person who acted like that.

Well that's precisely my dilemma and my shock from the experience. And I'm left dealing with the reality of this. But it might not be your concept (or mine) of how we think a loving God should be (and I use to say that exact statement as you)but whether we like it or not you have to face reality and look around you at all the suffering. Like Jesus said in the passion of Christ "you have no power over me except the power God gives you"

posted March 26, 2004 02:21 PM         

Remember, that world-wide, Christianity is not the largest religion in existence.

I do see the suffering. I understand karma as well as the next person. I understand the basics of Taoism, the Yin and Yang of life, which dictates the balance that life naturally achieves.

I believe that religions are here largely to control, often for monetary gain.

And I reiterate, I wouldn't like a person like that. I certainly don't like a God like that. If he were featured in an episode of Charmed, he'd be vanquished with a fire ball.

God/dess is everything, the ups the downs the ins the outs. God/dess is puppies and bombs and devils and babies and ice cream and poison. God/dess is everything...to go back to Taoism, we are all a piece of a part of a whole.

Oh, I wish you peace of mind, bewitched. You have beauty in your soul.
I don't fear God/dess, I have no shame for my life.

And if a firey dragon descends from the sky, I won't associate it with God/dess, and I will fight it with the rest!

posted March 26, 2004 02:58 PM         

Well the reasons for not wanting physical immortality anymore are:

1)I really want to go to the other side to ask how they (my guides, angels, mother mary ...) could let this happen

2)It's too horrible what happened to me I can't go on (you can't go on when your soul dies, like you said- soul dies, body still has the desire to live)

3)There's nothing left for me here-- I have no more desires left to be on this plane, no interests in material things, can't fall in love anymore, no more dreams...

4)Basically if you're going to be immortal your ascension has to succeed, meaning you have to rise with your true love and twinflame--I would say both because your true love is the light side and twinflame the dark side. Both serve different purposes. You can't rise alone. You could rise alone and be immortal but it's like being a God without your Goddess, you'll be lonely. And you have to have lived a full life because to be immortal it's really the end of a certain stage (I would say being young souls)

5) I want to get a chance to save myself, the old sweet adorable me I loved sooo much. I want to do my life over as if it never existed and this time try to succeed.

So basically if you want to ascend, and wish for it you will get your wish, so like I said be careful what you wish for. But you'll only be immortal if you truely desire it more than anything in the world and usually if you really are thinking about it you are probably at that stage. But you will have to pass the ascension, good luck!

But there's 2 different ascensions one for regular people and the other for the ones who's souls will reach adulthood or the end of their lives--two different types.

just re-member GOOBERZ

posted March 26, 2004 03:24 PM         

As for the idea of not being able to "make" it without your Twin S-elf, I agree. To become fully immortal, it takes both of you. That's not necessarily the same as being enlightened. I suggest you read "Ardath" and "A Romance of Two Worlds" by Marie Corelli, and "A Dweller on Two Planets" by Phylos the Thibetan. I know I could relate to these stories, and I think you might, too.

Thank you for the vote of confidence. I hope you know that I wish you the same amount of luck, as well.

posted March 27, 2004 08:21 AM         

Tink--

I found the article, and I will transcribe excerpts for you. It's very long. I don't have time right now, but Perhaps sometime tomorrow evening. It's scary.

"God told me to strike at Al Qaeda, and I struck them. Then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." --George W. Bush, as quoted by then-Palestinian Prime Minister Abu Mazen, June 2003.

posted March 27, 2004 08:49 AM         

bewitched ~ if I might ask, how long have you felt this way? It maybe seems trite but these feelings really do come and go. I've fallen into more than a few deep pits of depression and I've beeen fighting the suicide monster longer than I care to remember. trillian is a wise one. When she says "there is a light in the darkness" she speaks truth. And if you don't believe her, how about him? "This too shall pass"

I think Mel would have been a bit more accurate if he had Jesus say, "you have no power over me except the power I give you". Then again, what the hell does Mel know?

posted March 27, 2004 02:54 PM         

Yes Trillian is a wise one and so is Eleanore.

It's funny you mentioned Mel because one day my daughter came up to me (trying to console me) and said that Mel also couldn't go on and he wanted to commit suicide (this was just before I realized he made the movie and just before it came out) but he went to this place (I think like a monastery) and he found himself. I think he was divinely guided to make this movie. I have great respect for Mel and I think the reason for his movie had everything to do with ascension. It was the best movie I ever saw.

You have no power over me except the power I give you-
Well I think what Jesus said was necessary for bringing out the lessons and story for the next 2000 years
and
What you said is I guess the creation of the next story for the next 2000 years

I guess the only thing I wanted to do here was let people know that ascension was over

I never thought I would really get into my personal life (which is fine) but since I did the only thing I wanted people to understand is how deep the pain of what happened to me is. Which I wasn't able to do, because it's too hard for me to express myself. It's not a pain that has to do with one lifetime but with all my lifetimes combined. I do know the whole story of existence right now (and I know I sound conceited) and I just was hoping that someone could share an opinion that could prove me wrong because for me it is a nightmare (but it could have been heaven) now as I say this at the same time I know there is much for me to learn -I hope, I guess especially how to overcome this problem. It all depends right now on 1 thing, are miracles possible, but again I have the answer to that question.

The love and caring everyone has given me made a difference and also validated my feelings. Your thoughts are all positive and you are all headed in the right direction. You have probably ascended and if not you will easily when the time comes.

Basically I know the answer to my question it's only I can't get over what God did to me and I will never forgive or forget. This should not even have been in the realm of possibility.

Please forgive me if I sound conceited I'm really very humble it's just words get in my way, it's not the real me.

Tink why have you been fighting the suicide monster?

P.S. To me the Passion of Christ came out so that the people like me who suffered could feel better. God was trying to justify what he did by making us feel like we were a Christ in the world so we wouldn't feel so bad for all the passion and suffering we did. Brainwashing us. You had to be there.

Has anyone seen the movie Monster I would really like to know what anyone thought of it. I especially liked what she said at the end of the movie before she walks into the light (prison doorway)

-Well they have to tell you something!

posted March 27, 2004 05:34 PM         

I belive also like a parent here on earth, he is so inccredibly loving and fogiving. Even if we wander away, he will always welcome us back with open arms....I think that if we do die or some huge judgment comes up....if we see the error in our ways and repent (never to go that way again) there will be tears of joy and bear hugs....if we are showed our wrong ways and still decide we like them better then he would do what any parent would do after 18, kick em out.

posted March 28, 2004 09:58 AM         

Radna, of course your views are welcome here.
But no, I would not hit my child or the child of anyone else. I wouldn't hit anyone. I believe that violence begets violence. I would not want any child to grow up in fear of me, or to associate me with pain. There are many ways to teach and inspire without corporal punishment, to which I am vehemently opposed.

Ergo, does that make me more enlightened than the fundamentalist God?

And, there are those who believe that all we need to know, already lives within us, should we choose to tap into it. I think this is likely true.

No, I do not believe God would smack your hand away if you were reaching for knowledge. I believe that knowledge is everywhere for the taking. If my child picked up a book of math and wanted to learn, I would encourage her to do so, perhaps at a level appropriate for her. Then again, perhaps she is a genius at math, and only needed a door opened, rather than a hand slap. Since we are mentioning films, for a wonderful example of this, I encourage you all to see the true story "My Left Foot."

If Stephen Hawking can't reach his hand out for knowledge, and still, no one has slapped him away. He has grasped far more than many of us can imagine, because there are no limits to what we can achieve. I think there are only rewards for those who reach.

"We're One, but we're not the same, we get to carry each other..." ---Bono

bewitched, I think you're lovely and I am sorry for your pain. Yes, we wall walk the same path because essentially, it is the same path, whether we believe in God, Goddess, Buddha, Allah, any of the major or minor dieties through time and space. Your Christian God is not for me, I find him to be ugly and cruel.

Was it Marx who said "religion is the opiate for the masses?" I tend to see it the same way, while still respecting your right to believe as you will.

Thank you for the compliment, but I am a seeker, as are we all.

I'm sorry Tink, I must go, but you know it occurs to me that you might want to read the entire article. If you want, I'll copy and mail it to you. email me at chellemabelle9@yahoo.com if you'd like that. Don't forget the 9 in the email!

posted March 28, 2004 01:53 PM         

This is just one interpretation of my experience.

One of the best movies on ascension is the classic, THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GREY written by Oscar Wilde.

posted March 28, 2004 04:18 PM         

No one listened to her singing
She danced alone in the woods
The serenity of nature
Was her only soul food

So one day she spread her wings
And was ready to fly
She said nothing to this world
I saw her dive

posted March 28, 2004 06:08 PM         

God/dess is violence. Violence exits, ergo, it is God/dess, because God/dess is The Creator of All That Is. I choose not to be violent, it's a personal preference, but I'm not blind it its existence.

bewitched, a wee bit of food for thought.
You say you have seen behind Veil #1.
Then, you say you had an epiphany of sorts, and have seen behind Veil #2.
Have you considered that there might be a Veil #3, where S/He jumps out and says "Hi! Fooled you again! Look at this reality I have in store for you, no entrail-eating dragons, just lots of cake and ice cream with no fat or calories!"

And then, on to Veil #4, #5, #6...

I wish you light and love.

posted April 04, 2004 11:45 PM         

MOTHER MARY FLOWERING DURING ASCENSION

www.markryden.com

posted April 05, 2004 02:29 PM         

saying goodbye from a with moon in taurus and leo ascendant who loves with all her venus capricorn heart and mars in capricorn

a

twinFLAME who is a with a moon in scorpio ascendant in scorpio venus in scorpio and mars in capricorn

That is no longer her twin and that her two halves merged together alone without him with the help of spirit. She is now whole and free of all earth incarnations and karma alone forever.

I am my own planet not this kind of planet

ONE LAST CHANCE ANYONE IS THERE A MIRACLE THAT...
of god just gave me the answer he made a huge sound outside of firecrackers... not fireworks.

Wishing you all