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trillian
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posted April 05, 2004 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
One last chance?
Life will give you as many chances as you want. Is it your broken heart that troubles you so? You can love again, be assured of that.

You know, I have often wondered about Linda's concept of our Twin Flame/Twin Soul, and while I think it is a beautiful ideal, I am not convinced of it as completely real. Perhaps there is one other for us who will be more important than every other, but all who cross our paths are soul mates. And I think perhaps we are not born incomplete...anyway, these are just musings, I have no esoteric research, as Linda had.
But your pain seems to be so deep...it is said that Cappys do love the deepest, and are most susceptible to hurt.

Children set off firecrackers to revel in the pure joy of the noise, that something so small can make a sound so startlingly large.
So, if this is your sign, it is surely one of child-like joy in the unexpected.

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Eleanore
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posted April 05, 2004 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
I really think finding your Twin S-elf is not as common as many people would like to think. And don't forget Twin S-ouls ... how would you be able to tell the difference if you had no recollection of meeting either? I think, if you subscribe to the theories of Twin S-elves and Twin Souls, that you have to have Faith that when the time is right you will be reunited. You have to follow your chosen life path and deal with the consequences of your actions and reactions. There is always the great possibility that a couple of Twin S-elves would not be able to fulfill the duties of their life paths if they were together, for whatever countless reasons. Also, don't ever forget that separation is truly an illusion. If you accept God/dess as a reality, and believe that you are one with him/her/them, you are not necessarily literally bound together to them in the physical world. If we are Twin S-elves separated, then it is a separation of Spirit and thus would be a reunion of Spirit as well. A physical connection may not even be necessary. Who's to say? Perhaps a true reunion occurs when you are both enlightened/awakened/connected to your own Higher S-elf, after which your Spirits can reunite ... and then maybe, if it is possible, a physical reunion might be attained.
And what of the billions of people who are not destined to meet their twins in this current incarnation? Are they not to love another? Is their love less meaningful? I certainly don't think so. We have many relationships, of all kinds, to explore throughout our lives. Who knows if part of the reason that someone (or both of them) can't "unite" with their Twin in this life is precisely unfinished business with someone else?
The matter is truly complex.

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bewitched
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posted April 07, 2004 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
That's encouraging trillian and it really makes a difference to me you're giving me hope? In this post you've been fighting hard against my negativity, what I know is my reality and yet I will try to know the reality I desire instead. It's so healing to hear a different opinion.

Eleanore
Who knows if part of the reason that someone (or both of them) can't "unite" with their Twin in this life is precisely unfinished business with someone else?
The matter is truly complex.

Sometimes I redo my life in my mind my ideal life (there's so many different ones) and at times I imagine myself leaving someone I truely love for someone who I hold deeper in my heart. Or in one case this is a bit personal but, I imagined in one life path that if I would do it over I would miss every relationship so that at the end I would be with my twin and be a virgin (powerful it goes to the extreme of love and passion). So maybe I created this life for something even better that I planned for.

Does anyone have an ideal life they want to share? How they would look etc. Or what's their ideal look...

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bewitched
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posted April 07, 2004 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
Let me tell you the truth trillian--and everyone, I'm very angry and if this happened to anybody else or any gurus or avatars out there who know what to say to help please do!!!!! Babaji? Sananda?

This is what I experienced, I will explain the best I can.

God had a plan, he wanted to seperate us from the dark side we were attached to.
So what he did so that we wouldn't suffer is bring down spirit/god so that we could fall in love, and when he separated us we would be connected to our true love and we wouldn't feel pain and rise through bliss and shed our old bodies through bliss. But if you weren't connected the separation would be painful your soul remained with the dark side or somehow became extinct. So my soul died and now he is growing a new soul and he wants me to go on as if nothing ever happened. This new soul feels like a stranger in my body and I won't accept it because I just can't, it's not natural, I resist. The true me is the old soul and all I want to do is to save her.

I have to go to work to be continued

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bewitched
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posted April 07, 2004 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
just to make sure you know I'm not angry at you dear trillian I'm a angry at god, but you understood that,

again must go to work

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trillian
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posted April 07, 2004 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Oh bewitched, I know you are not angry with me. I know your heart is hurting. Mine has had its own share of hurts and breaks.

And each time, I was sure I would never love so strongly again. And each time, I went on to an even greater love. A twin flame? I don't think I have had that particular experience, but I have had some wonderful (and not so wonderful) soulmates.

Sweetie, you don't need a new soul, and you can certainly 'save' the one you have. In fact, it's already saved, nothing can destroy it, it's beautiful and complete. You are here to facilitate the healing of your soul, and I know you can do it.

If he is moving on, there's not much you can do to stop it. One truth in life is that you can't control other people, you can only control your reactions to them. You have a life, and if I am remembering correctly, you have a child, so you have a lot to live for and be thankful for.

I wish I had better advice for you. My most recent love...he has been the best so far. The connection I felt, and still feel, for him has been exceptionally strong. It's a relationship that can't work out, at least right now, but I will always wish him well, and I will never stop loving him, and I know that he will never stop loving me.

Very willing to hear the rest of your story.

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talaith
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posted April 07, 2004 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for talaith     Edit/Delete Message
awww, trillian, i love what you just said! you put it so well....

you reminded me that i too have much for which to be grateful, and love having loved is never lost.

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posted April 07, 2004 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Well said trillian. Very well said.

Bewitched ~ There are so many good and wise souls here. Give it a chance.

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bewitched
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posted April 09, 2004 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
So sorry for the delay in writing, I couldn't help it. Although I did read it before I was able to write back and it made me happy

Hi Tink and Talaith I am giving this sight a chance there's so much hope here and you almost feel you can get an answer to any problem.

Trillian
All I can say is what I experienced is true. And I can't believe this happened. And if you look at it carefully all your lifetimes are about reuniting with your lost half and if at the end of your lifetimes this fails you can see where I'm coming from. You might see that I can't possibly fall in love. Unless that's one reason we have different incarnations to erase this memory and get another chance. But even this I feel inside that it's over. This for me is the big mystery. Look at avatars they're single I need to be like before- like Radna said maybe I'm being kicked out of the heavenly house for a while to help me realize I wasn't ready to be at that level and that I still need my mommy and daddy! I wish that was true, because I want to be that passionate person again.

Talking about my soul I am certainly trying to save it, and I think the more I try to say "I believe I believe", it actually works; I feel like Susan-Natalie Wood in miracle on 34th street.

I did try to control I did that the last time I saw him-- could you imagine trying to control a scorpio! He's also Arab. But he did want to be with me (being a sag he was more positive) I just couldn't.

Tell me about your loves I'm interested?? what sign? Eleanore also said she thought she couldn't love and each time it got stronger but I also went through that but there's a limit.

Eleanore I agree with what you said, finding your Twin S-elf is not as common as people might think. And I think there is a difference between a twin self and a twinflame. Your twinflame enters your life for a specific reason. What I realized in this relationship is that there is this flame and only this relationship which is the ultimate in passion can actually raise
you and because it's so powerful you're both so fragile. The way we hurt eachother is we both thought the other didn't love us enough and when we realized it wasn't true we had too much pain from what we had already lost and being the same we were extremely angry and couldn't make it work. For me because of the intensity of our relationship and the pain of him not being there, it literally burnt my "house" down.

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bewitched
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posted April 10, 2004 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
Question to Randall:

Assuming what happened to me is true my soul got extinct (which was during the saturn seven cycle also) that would mean in the saturn cycle when the soul changes house that would mean that the soul that changes is just a part of the complete soul and that's why we still feel like ourselves only maybe with just a bit of variance and different qualities ones we choose that would benefit us. So if I say my soul died than in actuality the whole soul died. I remember in different parts of my life during the saturn seven cycle if I didn't get the love I needed, I experienced a sort of climax/desperation to get that love and if I didn't than I would experience a sort of mini death. I remember this at 6-7 years old and at 21 and at 28. At 28 I cried for many days and I just couldn't figure out why. At 35 I succeeded, I was very happy and I feel I built on that life/soul from 28. At 37 my life was going to change and I couldn't deal with the future. One night I remember I had a huge headache which I never got and I was crying and the pain was just unbearable and this was because I couldn't cope with the future. After that night I changed and I actually was a very different person but kind of the same with an added dimension, one I truely enjoyed it felt more like the real me this soul might have been closer to my source. But this wasn't during my saturn seven cycle and it didn't feel like a mini death.

So what I'm trying to say here is that I experienced the saturn seven cycle so I know what that feels like and now I believe it was my complete soul that died.

And my twin is now with someone else and I could never understand how he could love another person, maybe it's actually a part of my soul since it was during the saturn seven cycle and I entered another body knowing we could be together more succeessfully.

What do you think?

Is this the way you see the saturn seven cycle works?

Now in my post I mentioned that I was growing a new soul but since I was resisting that and I truely could not accept it I was able to go back a little and now I'm back to what I believe is having no soul I'm empty again, but I like this feeling better. Something has to happen though I can't stay like this. Is there anything about saturn seven you could tell me that might make a difference?

I know this sounds so crazy, but the saturn seven also was something out of the ordinary at first.

Or what it actually feels like to me right now is that when I say my "house" burnt down maybe we are each a planet and my planet burned down so now I'm not attached to my planet and I'm kinda floating around. Just like in the little prince when he broke off with his flower he than was lost trying to find another planet to attach to.
But he truely was homesick for his planet. Maybe my soul is kind of part of mother earth?


Like you said

If the Love is strong and the grief overwhelming, anything is possible!

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Randall
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posted April 10, 2004 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
That is a very highly individualistic experience that I am not qualified to comment on.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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bewitched
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posted April 11, 2004 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
From Sananda speaking the truth:

The bliss and the ecstasy of two hearts joined as one is beyond any human concept.
Many of us have journeyed long and far to reconnect with that one complete half of whom we are. For the experience of duality we split in two separate spheres of light and now it is time to once again complete the divine union between our male and female God-self.

At the galactic levels we started with ease and grace the separation process through several dimensions. This ensured there would be no harm to our light vehicles. For most of us the memory of disconnecting is still painful at a deep cellular level. This will become part of the clearing process if one is brave enough to commit to this relationship on all levels again. Earth is the pivot point for the entire universe for the end of duality. We are at a blessed time when the twin ray couplings can start the slow process of reunion. Your twin ray is the ultimate experience of your God-self in every facet. It is who you are and for this we are extremely grateful.
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Can you see the importance and the consequences if this doesn't succeed.

I can no longer be reunited I am burnt and you can't burn twice.

And all along GOD ALMIGHTY just watched.

He is Heartless! Merciless!

And I will never get over the pain. In fact when I get to the other side I do hope to merge with the source so I can never remember this.

Sananda's post is too painful to read.

WHY ME!!!!!


from someone who's been in bed for a year and a half trembling.


I can't talk about this anymore.

and to everyone thanks for all your help from the bottom of my heart.

P.S.
Just remember one thing listen to your heart, there's so much information out there you don't know what's true, but your heart is like a piece of heaven brought down a piece of the truth. So follow your heart NO MATTER what you see outside. And fight hard to save your heart, and you'll never go wrong.

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miranda23
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posted April 12, 2004 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miranda23     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much for all your advice it's exactlty what I needed to hear

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