posted July 23, 2004 02:53 AM         

in buddhism..i am not sure where..but i was told that jesus(christianity) and buddhism religion are back to back...

well let me explain..and hope that u do understand me..english is not my first language..

posted July 23, 2004 09:09 AM         

Both Jesus and Buddha shared this: they had both come to recognize that God resided within them, and had allowed God complete control over their thoughts, words and actions.

What you should be careful of, are MEN who teach you that one of these paths is EVIL and must be avoided, people who teach you that those who subscribe to one of these two paths is doomed. These people are speaking out of ignorance.

(Although a distinguishment must be made between Christianity and Buddhism as taught by Jesus and Buddha, and Christianity and Buddhism as presented by the churches and temples of today. The message HAS been distorted on both fronts.)

A fairly good rule of thumb that has always helped me to discern between the Word of Truth and the words of men has been this:

Those things that divide us are of men and their egos. Those things that united us are of God.

There are exceptions to this rule, to be sure, but they are few and usually surrounded by other signs that will help you distinguish.

Love,

posted July 28, 2004 03:17 AM         

and some researcher say the Jesus must have been taught in School of Nalanda ((India)...which is the greatest school of philosophy in buddhism and was destroyed later. ) as his teachings are similar to buddha but later on he (Jesus)adpated in his own way...

well...
just a food for thought

posted July 28, 2004 07:48 AM         

Well you've given me so much to think about, that I thought it only fair to return the favor:

What IF, the reason that Jesus' teachings and Buddhist doctrine seem so similar IS NOT because Jesus was taught in the Buddhist tradition?

What if both Buddha and Jesus got their Truth from the same source?

What if it was something that they found inside of them?

Wouldn't that explain the similarities as well?

And if those Truths were communicated through two different minds, could that explain the differences between them?

Just a theory I've been pondering. Thought your brain might enjoy the exercise..

Thanks again.

Love,

daf

posted July 29, 2004 01:56 AM         

hmm..indeed it has been exercising my brain...but it then here is another one...the end result is no doubt bit similar but and content of their teaching are same too.
if there were from the same source then y the end result of their teaching different? no doubt all the religion says that there is one god but the end is different and tht doesnt make sense somehow.

posted July 29, 2004 07:34 PM         

Let's furrow our brows together and maybe we'll come up with something.

Love,

daf

posted August 13, 2004 12:20 AM         

This link sure makes like their philosophies seem similar.
Dean.

posted August 13, 2004 07:01 PM         

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He had incarnated in the biblical drama as Adam (it was not immediately apparant to me how far this was literal and how far poetic, any more than it was clear how he had been Amilius before Adam, when souls first began to enter the earth's sphere). Then he had been Enoch not long after Adam. Next he was the preist Melchizidek at the time of Abraham, author of the core of the book of Job. After that came a series of incarnations with similar themes of growth (except for one as a poet-singer named Asaph, in the Solomon's temple). He had been Joseph in Egypt, counsel to Pharoah, and afterward Joshua, aide to Moses. He was Jeshua the scribe in the return from exile, collecting and trancribing the books of the Torah. Then he was Yeshua or Jesus of Nazareth, who completed the long journey as the Way by being crucified and risen from the tomb. At a time yet to come, the readings indicated, he would reappear to those who were ready for him in the same body as in Galilee.

Such an unheard-of portait might not be unexpected in a reincarnation perspective, in which the central saving figure lived out the same journey as did others. But the readings stretched the work of the Christ even further beyond traditional formulations. This same soul, the trance counsel indicated, had played some part in each of the great monotheistic traditions of the human family. It had not always incarnated, but sometimes influenced the religious leadership from a higher plane of consciousness. As a consequence none of the great spiritual legacies of mankind was without some direction from the Christ, even though his central gift and pilgrimage had been among the small people of Israel. He had, for example, been Zend, one of the early developers of the Zoroasrtian traditions, as he had long before been Thoth or Hermes in Egypt, and he had been a non-incarnate influence on Mohammed.

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Daf would most likely know the names above far more than I would (having not yet read the bible, or studied theology in any real detail). I know about Thoth though - the ibis headed God of Ancient Egypt who developed science, writing, and was responsible for most of the ancient Egyptian texts, and to think of him as an incarnation of Jesus! Freaky what?

posted October 26, 2004 09:13 PM         

Its an interesting passage from that book. All those who claim to have their knowledge from Ether seem to suggest the different births of Jesus in flesh.

Well this list was quite extensive. And could have beven beeen even longer.

It appears even what one can read from the Ether is censured by the divine? For some unknown reason, Humanity was not told about it and would never know.

Like everyone else, I can only speculate.
But I do believe in reading from the Ether.

Jesus again and again points to the existence of Ether. For instance he says:

1. Your Father knows what you want even before you ask it?

2. A man commits adultery even when he had only lusted after the woman but didn't actually commit the act.

All this indicates every word every thought is recorded in the ether. The bible has even pointed out to the existence of a book of God? I will try to get that exact description of this book? Or even quote the Bible passages.

Scientists are still coming with a theory about, how to explain, that a particle disturbance at one place can influence another particle at a far off distance.

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Particles which are arbitrarily far apart seem to be influencing each other, even though according to relativity this means that what seems to be causing an event from one point of view, from another point of view doesn't happen until after the effect being caused

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posted October 26, 2004 09:27 PM         

Didn't LG talk about the Jesus/Osiris/St. Francis of Assisi ... I don't remember if Buddha was in there or not, but it would go along with what she was saying.

posted October 26, 2004 09:31 PM         

OK, there's a Higgs field. Then, the field clumps to form an electron - which is really a ball of charge. The "charge" could be said to be the field. Whether negative of positive are polar opposites of the field (I'm not sure where this comes from - not to mention nuetral charge). But I mean, all matter comes from energy. Science basically says everything is the field. The next step is to say the field is God. Likewise as you said regarding white light through a prism - the consequent lights have a different nature, but they are all the same thing.

As for "every word every thought is recorded in the ether" yes, this is because there is no time. All that is, was and will be is always now. Time as we perceive it overlaps. You can see into the future by looking through the layers of the One Moment.

I love your quotes that describe this btw. There are sites for Cayce, but they seem to paraphrase him. I want to see what he said about things with a searchable function from the horses mouth.

posted October 26, 2004 09:36 PM         

Yes, I loved how Linda talked of St Francis. Not to mention Osiris and Jesus. I think she believed Osiris lived about 2 million years ago and built the pyrmids then through levitation. I'm speaking off my head here though. I love how St Francis protected a village with wolves. That's super cool!

I wonder who Jesus is now? I mean, we are all one though, so it doesn't matter, but from an Earthly perspective it'd be cool to know. But then, wouldn't they be harrassed!

posted October 26, 2004 10:43 PM         

I was technically wrong earlier when I quoted. I just double checked it. Had to be careful when I quoted scientific stuff even when it came from top of my head.

posted October 26, 2004 11:24 PM         

and

.....Saint Fransis of Assisi...???

Prayer For Animals
God Our Heavenly Father, You created the world to serve humanity's needs and to lead them to You. By our own fault we have lost the beautiful relationship which we once had with all your creation. Help us to see that by restoring our relationship with You we will also restore it with all Your creation. Give us the grace to see all animals as gifts from You and to treat them with respect for they are Your creation. We pray for all animals who are suffering as a result of our neglect. May the order You originally established be once again restored to the whole world through the intercession of the Glorious Virgin Mary, the prayers of St. Francis and the merits of Your Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ Who lives and reigns with You now and forever. Amen.
Saint Francis of Assisi

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Jesus is happy to come with us, as truth is happy to be spoken, as life to be lived, as light to be lit, as love is to be loved, as joy to be given, as peace to be spread.

- Saint Francis of Assisi
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pray0343.htm
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Love,

posted October 26, 2004 11:33 PM         

Hehehe so the original was indeed close to truth?
Now you are making me really think. My heads spinning imagining it. I will have to research this fascinating topic that you called entanglement. Will like to get back on it with you sometime.

Heh by the way are you a physicists?

I know you studied it?

I haven't studied Cayce at all. So my thoughts are not an expert opinion.

posted October 26, 2004 11:37 PM         

Canticle of Brother Sun
Most High Almighty Good Lord, Yours are praise, glory, honor and all blessings; To You alone! Most High, do they belong, and no man is worthy of speaking Your Name!

Be praised, Lord, with all Your creatures, and above all our Brother Sun, who gives us the day by which You light our way, and who is beautiful, radiant and with his great splendor is a symbol to us of You, O Most High!

And be praised, Lord, for our Sister Moon and the Stars. You created them in the heavens bright, precious and beautiful!

And be praised, Lord, for our Brother the Wind and for the air and the clouds and for fair weather and for all other through which You sustain Your creatures.

And be praised, Lord, for our Sister Water, so useful, and humble, and chaste!

And be praised, my Lord, for our Brother Fire, through whom You light up the night and who is handsome, joyful, robust, and strong!

And be praised, my Lord, for our Sister, Mother Earth, who supports and carries us and produces the diverse fruits and colorful flowers and trees!

Praise and bless the Lord and give thanks to Him and serve Him with great humility!

Be praised, my Lord, for our Sister, bodily Death from whom no living man can escape!

Woe only to those who die in mortal sin; but blessed are those who have done Your most holy will; for the second death can cause them no harm!

Saint Francis of Assisi

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Love,

posted October 26, 2004 11:40 PM         

Thanks for the prayer from catholic forum. It really touched my inner being.

posted October 27, 2004 01:02 AM         

IAT, no, I'm not a physicist. I studied it once when I learnt electronic engineering, but not Quantum Physics. That stuff I learnt from Richard Feynman, Stephen Hawking, James Gleick (to some extent), and Murray Gell-Mann (though I didn't finish his book "The Quark and the Jaguar"). I love science, and I keep thinking of learning more, but I'm in a relaxation mode at the moment.

posted October 27, 2004 01:14 AM         

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Relativity implies moving linearly over a distance - the speed relative to light. Entangled particles (which I think you are referring to) transmit signals instantaneously and therefore no distance is travelled, and yet, the transmission is faster than light.

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Iamthat, my apologies for misunderstanding your thirst for Saint Fransis of Assisi.

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By the way, I didn't realize Francis of Assisi was such a prominent figure.
My church is after him. I really have to dig more information about this man/saint.
All I know is that he is the patron saint that blesses animals.

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Love to both,

posted October 27, 2004 01:47 AM         

OK, so your thinking, "I want to be a physisist at UQ (for example). You go out and become a physicist, then a job opens and you take it. When was the job available? I think this is a stupid example. Say you're thninking "I want an MP3 radio player" but it hasn't been invented yet. The Moment you ask, it will have been invented and available to buy. You are asking for something NOW which is yet to be created in THE PAST. So, when you want it, it is available. Does this make any sense? The quotes IAT summarized this. Entangled particles are for scientists to catch up with God. To God, the particles interact instantaneously because they are God, and there is NO TIME. Simultaneous = no time. God answers before you ask! Your prayers are spoken for even more power, but ultimately you already have what you want. You are. To Want is to want, to be is to be. If you say "I want ice cream" you will want the wanting. To say "I have ice cream" means you will be able to eat the ice cream. We are everything.

posted October 27, 2004 02:27 AM         

I don't see why you apologize. Doesn't seem like you've done said anything out of line.

Just added to my reverence for you

posted October 30, 2004 03:31 AM         

i really dont know abt christanity..though there was a phase i used to hide from my parents and go and attend a bible class....for no apparent reason...later my parents found out it ended...but i did learn peices of here and there. but i know little abt buddhism...but i guess no one will no much as i gather from the post.hey..but you guys are amazing.

posted October 30, 2004 09:51 AM         

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I wonder what he meant by "second death".

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Would this be the actual physical death of the body ?