posted October 30, 2004 12:15 PM         

no real answer of course, but was curious to see what we could come up with.

posted October 30, 2004 09:12 PM         

I came with lot of answers. Then when I tried to summarize, I didn't reach a conclusion.

I felt numbers although are manifestations of God are very limited. Same goes for english words. This comes in when we try to define paradox. And in Gods world there isn't any paradox. Hmm may be Einstein is right after all. Its just that we don't have enough knowledge.

Though, I do have to tell you that, when I calculated using Deans software, my birth number and other numerological calculation. I was surprised to learn that my fullname (single and compound) match my birth day. Then it was in perfect harmony with zodiac sign and with my ruling planet. Now my Dad, when he named me, didn't do all this calculation. I simply marvelled.

When I said be the sugar or taste it.I meant that Imagine a beautiful man (or woman). Think for a minute you are the man. Then think for a minute you are his lover. What do you enjoy most?

Now imagine the All Mighty, in above example.

Good is in everythin. Evil is the impedence that causes us to be Good. Magidivision quoted well when he said a Mystic considers, All good is God and the evil is me (myself).

PEACE.

posted October 31, 2004 01:17 AM         

Imagine I am the man.........and she before me the lover. I am incited to bring her a joy she has never known. Give.
This expresses my Love. I want her to feel the joy she has given me.
Equal is my Desire for her to give to me.
To taste alone or be alone is empty existance.

good is what impends good.
Not evil.
Evil hurts.
Shocks to the core.
But is not what strives goodness within me.

For my goodness is always there......as you say goodness is God .....so perhaps I am misunderstanding.

Inspiration.

Inspiration is Breath.

Such is God?

Such is Jesus.....to you?

Numbers and words can only say so much, just as you say.

It's feeling.

Feeling that incites your very Soul.

give=6
live=6

Cherish=6

Cherish ALL.
All you receive
and All you've given.

Without it.....there is no feeling.

Without feeling and cherish is where Evil thrives.

posted October 31, 2004 07:11 AM         

You are right, even I would like to change place once a while.

The point was, some person wants to be a subject and enjoy their object of affection. It depends on each's essence.

The other point was when you are the man itself in that example: Unless you are self-obsessesed, you would not enjoy it as much.
I have seen some of the most beautiful person in the world actually don't like some of their features (nose too long, etc)

I mean God can see himself as he sees himselfs in Mirror without a Mirror. And he also does not need someone to tell him how beautiful he is. So may be your allusion is indeed correct. I just wanted to get the thinking cap on for us here. Everything God has made is good. Nothing is crap. Only the eyes of the beholder perceive things as ugly/beautiful, light/dark,etc. Goodness is in everyone. Thing is ego, greed, power craziness,etc, these things are detrimental to ones journey on a spiritual quest. And if I do have it, then unlike most people, I would attribute it to myself rather than to God. God is just. He is the BIG Flame and her creation is the small sparks from that flame. Anything that is wicked, he slowly rebukes and they under repentance comes under his mercy.

Your example of "give give without take is evil" can be explained as follows. Please correct me if I am wrong, Archer For example lets say you see a beggar on the street. And you give him money. Thats good correct. Wrong. You also need to teach him to work. Earn for himself. Ask him to give something back to God and even ask him for your money back when he is on his feet, so that you may help others, with same money.

Thats real equality when you bind someone here on earth. The take, take and never give can be explained by reversing roles.

PEACE.

posted October 31, 2004 08:08 PM         

Could I comment on your last post?

posted October 31, 2004 10:11 PM         

As a reminder, we teach that with which we are attempting to learn.

posted November 01, 2004 10:07 AM         

I understand what you are saying about essence, I believe.
Maybe that is why a lot of times one of one essence is attracted to one of the opposite. When the two blend together, perhaps this itself can bring a balance. When ego comes into the shuffle it could be a different outcome altogether.

Which brings me to 'give and give and never take'. You gave a good example that I hadn't thought of. That could be very true. What I was thinking of at the time is that for some, giving and never taking (receiving) can become detrimental to their spirit.
One, because it is depriving their spirit of fulfillness. When we are filled, we may easily flow outwards again......round and round, the vessel is in harmonic flow.
Two, unless you are giving, as God gives, without ego or ever a thought of wishing to receive as well ( oh, so much easier for God than for us humans), then this may breed resentment, disappointment and negative feeling (energy) within us. This negative feeling has the potential to affect every part of us......our spiritual journey...our interrelations with other people.
What seems small could be catastropic for some.

'We teach that which we are attempting to learn'.

*bow*.....very true, isn't it?