posted January 28, 2005 01:44 PM         

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There is a chapter in "Star Signs" by Linda Goodman that is dedicated
to the numbers 4 and 8 as these are the Numbers of Fate and Destiny.
These pages are not included in this program as they are quite lengthy
and involved. Any number that reduces to these are explained further in Linda's book.

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So I am wondering if anyone else can throw in some more inforamtion for me.

The reason I am wanting this is my cat of 20 years had to be put down yesterday. I began thinking about the dates and name for positive sides of the whoe thing.
Heres what I see:

We got her (as a stray and pregnant) in November of 1986 (she was estimated to be about a 1 1/2-2yrs old. So I took the month and year we got her and came up with an 26/8

Her name was Mugsy, when doing her name I got a 17/8

Yesterdays date was 01/27/2005 which reduced to a 17/8

She was layed peacefully to rest at exactly 4:13pm ... by adding up those numbers (not going off military time) i got an 8

So you can see why im wanting the 8 info, but like I said cant seem to find my Star Signs book, and oh boy did I ball last night when I discovered it was outta my reach. When I needed it so badly. So i figured the next best thing is to ask all you wonderufl people who know so much about it.

The other strange thing I noticed was I turned 25 this year. The year is 2005, which reduces to a 25/7 - same as my age. The other thing was she travel above and beyond on January 27, 25 days after my birthday. So 7 is also significant to this as well.

I also thought to reference the bible for 4:13 (the time she passed) ... I dont know much about the bible as I am just beginning to get into all the religious sides of things and dont have one in my possesion. Anyone know of a "online" bible that I could reference the 4:13.

Any insite would be greatly apprecieated.

Thanks,
Ang-

posted January 28, 2005 01:46 PM         

WOW!

posted January 28, 2005 02:20 PM         

ang-

posted January 28, 2005 09:06 PM         

That 8* Aquarius Sun has struck a cord with my family!! When my Husband was 6 years old, he was hit by a small pick up, in excess, of 50 mph. He was crossing a street that, even now, sees only the ,occasional, car that does not end up being resident to a house on the street. On his, innocent, way to the bus stop, going to school...
13 years after this accident, the city decided to put in speed bumps...? Anyway, I had to give something with regard to that degree. I hope you will be shown what you seek!

posted January 30, 2005 12:58 AM         

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The Number 8 vibrates to the planet Saturn. It represents wisdom, learning through experience, stability, patience, and responsibility. 8 is also the number of financial security, caution, restriction, self-discipline and self-control...

(here it goes into detail as to how 8 behaves with each Sun Sign... if you tell me yours I'll type up what it says for you)

The meaning of the 8 Vibration

The following definition of the Number 8 applies to both people and entities. 8 people are normally quiet, reserved, and shy. They don't obviously push ahead, but slowly and surely they will get where they want to go, and nothing will stop them from achieving their ambitions. The shyness and reticence is a cover for an intense drive to reach the top of the profession or career. They make excellent teachers and counselors, most of them could be successful in the tough game of politics (although now and then there's a sour apple in the barrel)- and they excel at anything that requires patience and intelligent deduction.

Those influenced by the 8 vibration may have poor health in childhood, but they grow more robust when they reach maturity, and longevity is common with 8 men and women. These people are willing to wait for their plans to bear fruit, and they use the waiting time wisely. It's rare to find an 8 person procrastinating or "goofing off." They have an inborn sense of duty and responsibility that won't allow them to take a careless attitude toward what is expected of them. Most of those born under the 8 influence are as reliable as a grandfather clock, and as cozy to be around as a grandma quilt or comforter. They have a rich sense of humor, but one has to watch for it, it's subtle and never obvious. These people behave as if they don't care a peanut what people think of them, and they appear to be turned off by compliments, yet inwardly they care very much what people think of them, and if the compliments are sincere, they secretly enjoy them, although they'll hide their pleasure, for fear they might be considered weak. To be considered weak is the very last thing they want to happen.

Although the 8 vibrating, like all the single number birth vibrations, interacts always with the person's Sun Sign, and the traits aren't always present - they only surface on occasion - most 8 people have very deep and intense natures and great inner strength. They often play an important role in life's drama, and many times are the instrument of Fate for others. There's a tendency toward fanaticism in religion, and they'll stick by what they believe relentlessly, in the face of all opposition. They make loving friends, but bitter enemies.

Although 8 people appear to be cold and undemonstrative with those they love and trust, they can be shyly affectionate and warmly devoted. They often lonely, needing desperately to be loved, and they're capable of great sacrifices for an ideal, an ambition, or for those who depend on them. They grow younger in appearance and behavior as they grow older - they look and act younger at fifty than they did when they were twenty. They're as demanding of themselves as they are of others, but for all the outward attitudes of wisdom and maturity, self-control, and discipline, the 8 person's heart is lonely and longing, and they need to learn that the pursuit of happiness is not a sin.

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• Includes all names which reduce, when added together, to a 4 or an 8.
  
• Includes all persons born on the 4th, 8th, 13th, 17th, 22nd, 26th, or 31st days of any month
  

Imagine that you have a charge card and have been running up bills throughout your previous lives. Now the bill is due.

Time to pay, for better or worse, to balance your karma.

There is no escaping the paying back of karma, this is not a voluntary issue.

Fours do not carry as heavy a karmic burden as an 8 does. Many 4's (because they are ruled by Uranus) may not accept that they have karma to pay and may strongly believe that they are in charge of their own destiny and not victims of any kind of karma. If they do not balance their karma in this lifetime, they will return as an 8 which bears additional karma to reap.

Number 4's and 8's are magnetically drawn to other 4's and 8's (persons either born on a 4 or an 8 day or their name reduces to a 4 or an 8). It should be noted that partnerships between 4 and 8 persons bear a very karmic tie, which sometimes can not be avoided as with relatives, and must be worked through, for better or for worse.

Fours

Fours should avoid 4 and 8 persons as partners in the future (4's because 4 plus another 4 equals 8). This includes businesses, telephone numbers, house numbers. license plates, etc. Do not sign important contracts or perform important events (such as a marriage) on a 4 or an 8 day. These days will carry a very heavy burden.

Eights

All number 8s should avoid signing important papers or performing important events (such as marriage) on a 4 day. Avoid 4's in regards to license plates, house numbers, telephone numbers, businesses, etc. Eights may use the strength of their own 8 number while understanding that the 8 brings a very karmic flavor to the event or the situation.
HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR KARMA

If you were born on the 4th, 13th, 22nd or 31st day of any month, it is best if you change your name to reduce to a number which carries one of these vibrations: 1, 3, 5, 6, or another favorable double karmic number.

If you are born on the 8th, 17th, or 26th day of any month, it is best if your name comes to one of these vibrations, 6, 15, 19, 24, 33, or another favorable karmic number.

Please note: Changing your name karma will enhance your future, but it will take time. Like a stone thrown into a pond, as the ripples expand, it grows. So it is with the name change, as you use the new name more and more, the improvement will become greater. Good idea: print new checks, business cards, etc., with the new name. The 1,000 of imprints made are "ripples" of good karma sent out into the universe!

WARNING

All number 4s and 8s should be aware that in association with those born on the 15th day of any month or whose name comes to the 15, that this combination may bring the power of magic which could be used against you by the 15s ability for mental suggestion. Unless you are positive that the 15 is living their vibration in the most honorable way, great care should be taken when dealing with them.

posted January 30, 2005 03:34 PM         

thanks for posting that info LS ... i really, really appreciate it!