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Hedgewitch
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posted July 21, 2005 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hedgewitch     Edit/Delete Message
i need some enlightenment ~~ i realize that our thoughts create our reality, and i'm learning this more so every day...

yet ~~ how do i direct my thoughts and remain aware of what is real and happening in my world in this moment? there is much that is harsh and threatening in the atmosphere around me...i know this to be true. and i know that it must be surrounding me for a reason, but until i figure that out, and learn how to utilize my thoughts to create the reality i desire, how do i interact and use my senses and intuition to navigate the world i find myself in?

to clarify this conundrum, i'll illustrate by relating the ambiguity i'm experiencing in following the spiritual path i'm walking at the moment. on the one hand, i'm reading a buddhist book, start where you are, that encourages opening your heart to others so that you can 'be there for them' when their pain causes them to act negatively toward you. it's simply pain, and by being open to them, with an open heart, one exercises compassion and freedom.

on the other hand, i'm exploring the spiritual realm, and learning that negativity burdens and can be harmful to our physical space and bodies. so i'm also looking at forms of spiritual and psychic protection, because i feel this negativity in my atmosphere, and i feel that it severely affects my disposition.

so, i'm attempting to be more open, and at the same time focusing on protection and avoiding -- kind of like shielding, i guess.

can you do, or be, both? do these differing paths meet in the middle somewhere?

i'd like to keep my thoughts positive and all love and light, but when i perceive harmful intentions, should i not register them and seek to know their roots, and how to transcend them? i almost feel that thinking about them sends me into a negative state, whereby my thoughts simply create more of this unnecessary drama.....

gurus, and any others, welcome to offer thoughts, or even to share a cup o' tea, no related thoughts required.

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thirteen
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posted July 21, 2005 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I am wondering if by being open and loving you can or will tranform the negativity? Let us know. It makes sense to try something different. When im being barraged by negativity i tend to close and react back with more negativety. Im going to try it the other way and see what happens. I gut instinct says you CAN do both.

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Hedgewitch
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posted July 21, 2005 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hedgewitch     Edit/Delete Message
hi 13...yes, i wholeheartedly agree. and i've been working on doing just that for many years now. i'm really just such beginner at learning how this process works though, so i feel that my progress hasn't done much to dissolve the negativity.

at the same time, i believe i'm traveling the thunderbolt path that Linda mentions in Star Signs. so in that respect, i should expect a bumby ride, eh? until i can transcend this, i'm seeking the best way to proceed, in the highest way i can.

thank you for replying...and reminding me that love always surrounds us, and is available, if we let it into our hearts.

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Ayumi
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posted July 21, 2005 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayumi     Edit/Delete Message
I can relate Hedgewitch - I am having alot of the same problems. on one hand im trying not to dwell on the negative or give those situations power in my life, but if theres something to be addressed, how do you do it without re-enforcing that reality?
the answer is: I don't know. But maybe its more about prevention. Address whats at hand without allowing yourself to become negative about it, and affirm that it won't happen again. Then you can practice positive thought in that area after its been taken care of. maybe.

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delerious
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posted July 21, 2005 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for delerious     Edit/Delete Message
WoW, you really hit the nail on the head, good luck answering that one!!! But I think the biggest problem we face really is learning to ask the right questions!!!!

you'll never be able to solve this part of the "great mystery" and how we can be so attached and so separate at the same time -dichotemy - polarlities see I finally realized I was always "empathetic" and absorbed all the energy around me - thought I was crazy for the longest time....

My Best solution so far has been...
you cannot dilute the energy coming in, good or bad, because if you did you would miss the good stuff you were meant to recieve along with the bad (don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater!!) so my best answer is to constantly replenish yoursely conciously with the "good" (meditation, spaceout) at work or anywhere make it a habit, when you feel the negativity start to build up from others! Believe me, the sensitivty is both a blessing and a curse,.... but if you've got it there's nothing you can do but make the best and appreciate the blessings of insight in instows you!

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monad
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posted July 21, 2005 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
thought can be reality

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 22, 2005 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saturn's Child     Edit/Delete Message
Hedgewitch, It is indeed difficult...the Thunderbolt Path. Bumpy? To say the least!
What I find most helpful is meditation and creative visualization. Surrounding yourself with protection from the negativity each morning when you get up is very helpful. With that filter of protection I can see the negative things around me and contribute help without being affected by it so directly. That sounds somewhat simplistic, but it does require some effort. When it seems to become overwhelming, retreat to replenish is good.
With some practice you can meditate for a moment or two and no one will notice, but the rejuvenation takes place.
Good Luck to you.....

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thirteen
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posted July 22, 2005 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
interesting! yesterday I had the opportunity to react negatively to some conversation with husband. I consciencely decided to stay open and my responses were different. Lighter. The negativity passed very quickly.
Thunderbolt path... I may be experiencing that too.

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Petron
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posted July 22, 2005 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
dear Hedgewitch,

can you describe the "thunderbolt path" for me?
i've heard the term here but am not sure what it encompasses...?

i think i've seen you deal with negativity very well.....whereas i tend to seek out certain kinds of conflict

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Hedgewitch
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posted July 24, 2005 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hedgewitch     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for these splendid replies...i often consciously tell myself to 'breathe in light'...it works!

it's late now, so i can't elaborate as much as i'd like (my brain cells went to bed a long time ago... )

so i'll return at a more lively hour. but thanks again for all the thoughtful responses.

and petron...(shhh...don't tell anyone, but you're high on my list of 'favorite' knowflakes ...) i'll be back soon to discuss the thunderbolt path. if you don't have a copy of Star Signs, i'd be more than happy to send you one.

love to everyone...Hedgewitch

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"The blood of Isis, the virtue of Isis, the magic power of Isis, the magic power of the Eye, are protecting this the Great One; they prevent any wrong being done to him."

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bleakbeauty
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posted July 26, 2005 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message
I ask myself the same question, how can I be happy in this world?

I just met a beautiful man and I should be so happy, but instead all I feel is dread and fear. And I don't want to succumb to that.

We are more powerful than we realise, and we don't need to fear death. I think fear is what traps us.

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beebuddy
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posted July 26, 2005 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
"how do i direct my thoughts and remain aware of what is real and happening in my world in this moment?"

"Your" world is based upon experience or memory, it is a function of the past, never the present. But that's actually good news.

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trilioth
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posted July 27, 2005 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trilioth     Edit/Delete Message
good question...

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lotusheartone
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posted July 28, 2005 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
As one who is once more leading the thunderbolt path, I believe that negativity is part of our evolution, our karma in past lives. Do not absorb this energy, but deflect with the good of the light. with your thoughts and your words you can change negative to positive, or at least diffuse it.
The rewards are great, many karmic stars in your crown.
Consider it a stern teacher, showing you, that you are a beautiful and positive person, and that makes a difference in our world.

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Petron
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posted August 01, 2005 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for the offer of a book Hedgewitch but i was really just taking you up on that cup'o tea...id rather hear your take on the thunderbolt path
havnt seen you post in a few days......so i thought id bump this thread up were you can find it when you get back...

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Bluemoon
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posted August 02, 2005 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

This is a Great book.


The person you see in the mirror, it the one who is responsible for your happiness.

LOVE to you all! Sandi

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salome
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posted December 19, 2005 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
oh dear....
this topic generated so many delightful
and heartfelt replies...i'm so sorry i
didn't follow up here...

(salome was once Hedgewitch )

well, i'm bringin this back up, cuz its
relevance still informs my life.

anyone care for a cup 'o tea and a cozy
winter chat?

brewing some sweet cinammon spice ~
metaphysical tea for LL...
sippin' some love and light in astral
flight.

love, salome

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

belinda carlisle

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lotusheartone
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posted December 19, 2005 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!
you have a post from my first day here
memories, hehe

Thunderbolt path of karma

praying and accepting your karmic debts and paying them, balancing the books
most difficult
But most rewarding

I can now see s

Love and Light to ALL

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Kat
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posted December 19, 2005 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Read the book LOVE IS LETTING GO OF FEAR by Jampolsky. It's an easy read that if you really study it - it will be profound. Basically the book touches on the basic concepts of THE COURSE OF MIRACLES - A heavy heavy read. Power of now is also good, but I think you'll find this to the point!

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Hexxie
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posted December 19, 2005 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hexxie     Edit/Delete Message
i have been taught, or perhaps i shall say, i have been helped to remember, a truth about the 'protection' you had mentioned. when you are in your heart center, you do not need spiritual and/or psychic protection. acknowledge the negativity that you feel but in that instant, do not pull away. to pull away and protect yourself would mean you are acknowledging that there is something wrong with the person/place/thing! there is nothing (no thing!) bad in the eyes of 'god'. instead step into the feeling and send it love. nothing negative can withstand love, nothing. the love you project will 'burn' up any negetivity!

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salome
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posted December 20, 2005 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
thank you Kat...i'm adding that book to my
next order at amazon.
really.

and dear Hexxie ~

brilliant words! along similar lines as the
pema chodron book i mentioned...but much
more clear, powerful and inspiring...

not too long ago i had some very anxious
moments during which i attempted to tune
into my higher self...and the thought to
open my heart came upon me...and do you
know that it worked in the most immediate
and direct way? i was humbled.

thank you for reminding me.

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

belinda carlisle

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Petron
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posted December 20, 2005 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
mmmmmm the tea smells wonderful

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salome
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posted December 20, 2005 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
it's fresh too...

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BlueTopaz124
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posted December 20, 2005 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I love that book, Love is Letting Go of Fear...

My meandering thoughts touch a little here and there...

I feel, that when there is negativity, it really is about the other person's reality, their perception/point of view. Knowing this, it might be easier to stay centered and detached. Not detached in the aloof sense, but staying apart from their reality and simply observing and having compassion at the same time. I think Hexxie is saying the same thing, that it's not necessary to pull away, but compassion and love will allow you to stay close and open, listening. I feel that if you pull away or try to avoid, you draw to you that same energy you're resisting, because you're focusing on that. Simply observing where they're at makes it easier to stay centered. I agree wholeheartedly - love IS stronger and will dissolve anything negative. I find it's easier for me to visualize my own heart with pink (love) light around it while I'm addressing/listening to their situation helps with the centering. Responding without judgement helps too.

Laura

yum...cinnamon orange tea!

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naiad
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posted June 02, 2007 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message
Love is Letting Go of Fear ~ found it and love it....

I find it's easier for me to visualize my own heart with pink (love) light around it while I'm addressing/listening to their situation helps with the centering.

awesome.

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