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Topic: Guys......I am not up for this.......sorry
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MAGUS of MUSIC
Knowflake Posts: 1495
From: The Highlands,NY,usa
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted September 05, 2005 02:21 AM
 
Once again replying to a conversation I origninaly intended on having nothing to do with.- Excluding when it came to the Rabis [how ever you spell them] who where preaching dogmatic BS instead of spiritual truth's- JESUS WAS NOT IN PEAPLES FACES. True -atleast many of the most respectfull peaple in history where in peaples faces when need was truly to be. but the rest of the time many of em where using more tact and grace as to how to handle peaple, and when. Even the likes of Braveheart knew when to speak up, and when to just shut up. I was keeping a neutral stance, watching this excalate in the last weak or so. At first seemed no bigger a deal then peaple misunderstanding Lotus's intentions. I watched peace between all partys made... Then I have to say it started to look like lotus was going out of her way to stir stuff up between said peaples... I can only guess,, perhaps due to her being human she wasnt as content to let it rest as she would have liked to been. These peaple seemed to me to be spending days trying to more diplomaticly tak with her... Last day or two I cant see it any other way but lotus going to far, and not only with SueG. Her enthusiasm is one of lotus's beutifull and respectable qaulaties. Her way of going about all of this only seems to have become a personal vice. From my small minescule point of observation- this is my verbatim. As an Aqaurian, its not often I dont have more then a 1 or 2 dimensional point of view. And for everyones ponderings- how many special cool ade drinking cults does humanity have to witness to recognise comparing mortal humans to Jesus H C as being nothing short of potentialy dangerous. Its this sort of encouragement of self rihgtousness that had Hitler thinking he couldnt loose no matter what he did.
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ILove
Knowflake Posts: 178
From: Winter Haven, FL
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 02:46 AM
If Jesus was not in people's face, then why did people feel so threatened by him?Anyhow, I believe Jesus was a mortal just like you and I. I happen to believe that he had a chart like you and I. I believe he overcame his natural reactions by prayer, meditation and counseling. I believe he had freewill and chose to follow his own path. I believe he is one to look up to, why, because love is all, and it is all over his doctrines. I can really tell following Jesus has produced soo many Hitlers. So, I dis-agree with that being dangerous, I see love and light and people trying, not self-righteousness. Just me. IP: Logged |
Lialei
Knowflake Posts: 1152
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Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 03:15 AM
Wherever there is anyone who proclaims to See and Know there is Self-Righteousness.Short post...it made it in.  (see "testing" in Free4All)  Lia
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delerious
Knowflake Posts: 798
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Registered: Dec 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 03:40 AM
this place is supposed to be about open debate... I for one love all your opinions even if they don't agree with mine cause it keeps me thinking and my mind open - don't want to stagnate!!!! viva la differance!!!!!!IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 7542
From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 03:54 AM
I too disagree that Jesus was in people's faces. For the most part he wasn't aggressive at all. He had one known outburst in the temple, and he exchanged words with the Pharisees. Other than that he was altogether mellow, and set the example with love, not aggression. MLK, jr., too. The only way he was in your face was by being the example, being the good, calm voice of love and reason. This is the reason I thought she should look to other spiritual leaders. You can even look at the Dalai Lama in modern times. Or Nobel Peace prize winners. I don't think Magus linked Jesus followers and Hitler. He said that cult leaders connect themselves with Jesus. That has happened lots of times. Even Mormonism is considered a cult to many Christians. Self-righteousness can produce Hitlers, though, which is what he's saying. Hitler had a world view he thought everyone should share. Lotus has a world view she thinks everyone should share. That's where the comparisons come up. IP: Logged |
delerious
Knowflake Posts: 798
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Registered: Dec 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 04:12 AM
maybe Jesus got in people's faces and scared them cause he dared to speak his own truth...I think people tend to cling to organized religion cause the world is such a scary place at times we want order, to reassure in a chaotic, frightening world... so we follow just to get some comfort, but let's face it, it's still the "great mystery" and we'll probably never get the secure answers we want IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC
Knowflake Posts: 1495
From: The Highlands,NY,usa
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted September 05, 2005 12:37 PM
Yes thank you Acoustic, thats exactly hwat I was trying to say... And again as far as Jesus in getting peaple disgruntled- the impresion I always got when reading of his story was that it was mroe his reputation preceding him, that had certain peaple hating him- not hated because he was always geting preachy on peaple everywhere he went- and all up in their faces. If Jesus hadnt been so gracefull, and mellowly diplomatic,, I dont think he would have had the respect and following he had to have survived to his 3rd year of his ministry, or what ever he called his career. IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 01:01 PM
Acoustic and Magus - thanks lads for your valid comments.....ive left a message for you on TO LOTUS thread ILove, I dont think we have met, you dont know me, we have never spoken have we..... and yet you come in accusing me of promoting negativity and not Lotus..... have you not read her comments.....and then talking about my 29 degree......what is all that about? Why are you doing this.....I feel you are helping to exacerbate the situation by doing this when we havent even had time to communicate.......and now you are gonna tell me you are a Taurus arent ya? IAT I think you are right man about the opposite signs with the women and if ILove is a Taurus, then I will rest my case......I feel that same vibe coming..... Love
Sue G xxx
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ILove
Knowflake Posts: 178
From: Winter Haven, FL
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 01:01 PM
O.K. re-verse, Jesus was not swayed, he preached(is this not another way of being in your face)what he knew to be true. The many who did not believe, had simply to not listen, not come to his teachings. Because many did not believe, did he stop preaching and teaching? No, he couldn't and wouldn't. I can't help the rhyme. hehe
I think he was condemned to death because he did not stop, even when his disiples said stop. Do not go there Jesus. Go away for a while. Let things settle. He walked right into town knowing, he was in your face, and in a good way(to me). He could have let the dust settle, but he didn't. The work was too important to him, and he walked into the hands of the enemy. I in no way think that anybody is lotusheartone's enemy, in the same sense. I promise, lets just have grace under pressure. I don't want anybody pushed away, and I think I came across that way earlier. Sorry.A LEXI-GRAM by Linda violet - LOVE EVIL love is all IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 7542
From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 01:56 PM
That's interesting that you feel that way. I agree that he was courageous, but I haven't taken that as being a real in-your-face kind of attitude. Just a matter of interpretation I guess.I do agree with Magus on the reputation thing, though. Jesus didn't stop preaching because there was always an interest on the people's part to hear what he had to say. If his words weren't wise or were less than genuine then he wouldn't have ever risen in stature. He didn't need to get in people's faces to teach, because the people flocked to him. IP: Logged |
Sun_Scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 1766
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted September 05, 2005 03:30 PM
Hey SueG, sorry to here about this happening. I just found this site (I posted it on the trolls page too) and thought you might want to check it out... http://www.advicemeant.com/stalker/
I remember a while ago you were affected by someone else and almost left... please stay!  You are a cherished member of LL!  IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 03:36 PM
Hey Sun SCorpHow good of you to come in......I am beginning to feel so supported by all you guys.....it speaks volumes, I am very blessed, thanks sweetie.....will go and check the link Thanks again sister
Love
Sue xxx
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ILove
Knowflake Posts: 178
From: Winter Haven, FL
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 04:15 PM
yeah, I think it is a matter of interpretation, I guess in-your-face does sound confrontational, rather than gentle and soothing to your soul. It sometimes takes slow and steady Tauraus to see. I also have a Libra moon, so atleast I'm not too stubborn. I also have a streak to protect the underdog, and felt a lot of goading towards her. Again, its just my feeling. I also am proud of lotusheartone's apology, isn't that enough? Hey AG - I love your thread in free-for-all. See ya there.IP: Logged |
beebuddy
Knowflake Posts: 1043
From: illinois
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 06:21 PM
Sue G,For the record, i'm glad you are still posting.  IP: Logged |
kiwigirl
Knowflake Posts: 257
From: New Zealand
Registered: May 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 07:18 PM
Sue, I am gob smacked at the happenings here...i got a funny vibe the other week but couldnt quite put my finger on it though it was about one particular member...who has now caused a lot of disruption.You have my total support, if you leave you will be so missed, you have to do what is right for you at this time...I for one have really enjoyed getting to know you and i LOVE reading your posts...i have learnt a lot. Take care ok
much love
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Moonshine9
Knowflake Posts: 219
From: Jamaica, NY, U.S.A.
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 11:31 PM
Hello SueG,
I read the thread that Pixie Pixel had mentioned (page 8-9), thanks for that Pix by the way! I was a wee bit confused with this thread now I understand what it's all about.
SueG, don't let someone's negative energies take hold of you, we all love you here. Please don't let someone else's foolish talk bother you.
I'm taking a psychology class at the moment and it sounds to me as if this Lotus character is a bit delusional? Sorry Lotus but just my observation.
Reading Lotus' threads brings me back to the times riding the subway in NYC packed like sardines with nowhere to go, then this bible beater starts ranting like a lunatic, Repent! Repent! or your all going to hell!
Luckily I don't take the subways anymore.IP: Logged |
Mystic Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 1973
From: New York City
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 05, 2005 11:44 PM
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Luckily I don't take the subways anymore.
Wish I could say the same LOLOL.
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 03:22 AM
Hello MoonshineYou will make a very good psychologist I thinks!! Yeah delusional indeed, did you read the passage I wrote about my schizophrenice bro-in-law, he was delusional too, still is, God bless hin, but he does go for help! I have always been a bit of a target for those types of people and that is why I decided to speak out,,,,,,especially when my friends were attacked. The problem is the behaviour isnt rational and there is a chance all this stuff will keep coming back......sad but true....and its NOT for me!! Anyway, thanks Moon for your support.....I am beginning to feel as tho I am at a wedding doing a speech. "thank you all for coming and for the gifts etc etc" But its true you are all gifts........to me Love to all
Sue G xxx
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 03:37 AM
Hi beebuddyI just saw your post!! Hey thanks for the troll thread and for coming in to spare the time - I loved the way you wrote, very errrr......to the point.....a man/woman after my own heart - LOL - YOU ROCK!!! Thanks again Love to ya
Sue G xxxx
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fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 5816
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 08:46 AM
Thanks to everyone who is supporting Sue g!
And I am glad to see you are staying Sue!
Edited.06
Times change. It seems I had misplaced my trust and caring.  IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 09:01 AM
Hey FayteI think to leave would be a shame, I feel as though I came here to help lighten things - OMG you couldnt get more serious and joyless than what has been happening lately. I met a channeller once, she worked with David Icke, he refers to her in his books as "the Kenilworth source" - he used her to bring forth messages to help save the planet! She read for me a few times, and one thing that came thro and stuck in my mind is when she said "smile for that is your gift, you have much to offer, you have it in abundance, many will flock to your side" i never forgot that Fayte, and one thing I learned from the last few days is those who cannot be happy in their spirituality, have probably not found the true meaning of it........God doesnt want us to be miserable does he/she? I think if God was down here, he/she would certainlly be up for the craic LOL !!! Fayte I would email, but strangely enough my messages aint getting thro.......the message in that I feel is, for some reason, I have to communciate here??? Will you come back to chat sometimes honey? Thanks again you are a loyal, strong, heartfelt, passionate, very very good person......and anyone with half a brain could see that couldnt they? Love to you kindred
Sue xxx xxx
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 09:06 AM
FayteI have a beautiful set of cards called the Lovers Oracle, I took the liberty of taking one out for you (I hope you dont mind)........regarding your path at LL......this is what came out: "SPEAK YOUR TRUTH" Cant get clearer than that hey girl Love
Sue xxx
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Celestial
Knowflake Posts: 11
From: Calgary Alberta
Registered: Sep 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 09:34 AM
sue_g I am new to this site and I was scrolling down through all these postings and sensing the enegry from them instantly .It is possible that you've reached a new vibrational stage and you've got to learn how to protect yourself all over again ? This may in part been a reminder that we are constantly changing and needing to shift how we protect ourselfs from others all the time .Just when we've figureed out our defences we're directed to new ones .You are a warrior of light .(Kryon ) figuritivly speaking put on your armor ,and raise your sheild .
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Solane Star
Knowflake Posts: 1651
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 10:29 AM
That was very insightful Celestial!!! I think you maybe on to something here!!! Welcome to Lindaland Celestial!!!
Lots of love and light!!!
Solane Star 
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 7135
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 11:24 AM
Hi Celestialand Welcome Warrior of light - WOW - I have been called some things before but that is the best yet!!! You are a very perceptive one Celestial, not to go to deep, but yes I am indeed ready for the next vibration and that lovely sword is indeed highly raised - you have been warned guys LOL!!! Many thanks, you sent a shiver down my back - so many angels so little time......I am becoming blessed more each day. Love to you, 
Sue xxx
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