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sesame
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posted November 30, 2005 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Faye, Have you read the Tenth Insight? I'm currently reading it, and it seems to talk a little about the travel you mentioned. It's funny how different philosophies often back up others hey?

Lousianagrl, the best analogy is that time, like the universe, is circular in nature. It seems to go for ever, but actually curves back onto itself. I know the next question is what;s outside that, which I just dunno. Or what's inside the universal ball? I think the analogy is a little too simple and aimed at removing those pesky headaches.

Dean.

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posted November 30, 2005 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
Nowhere was it said that all existence is an illusion! YOU are the illusion.

There is no entity that seeks freedom, the entity IS the prison.

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thirteen
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posted November 30, 2005 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Who's illusion
Who's prison ? All that is's ? Is that who?

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posted November 30, 2005 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
It all goes back to.."I THINK, THEREFORE I AM"....
Without perceptions of self identity and points of reference, it(the universe) would all be only mindless random chaotic energy.
So we are aware of existing and therefore do indeed exist.
No..have not read it Dean. May look into it...Thanks for the tip.....
Most of my research is not based on anyone elses writings or research. I like discovering on my own without being bogged down in preconceptions as much as it is possible. Not always easy to do! Have to throw out or put aside things other folks have come up with in order to view things in my own way or from a new and radical perspective.

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posted November 30, 2005 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
"Who" is the prison.

Fayte,

"I think therefore I am"

The "I" is thought, the psyche.

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posted November 30, 2005 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
beebudy: im trying so hard here to pull some detail out of you but its not working.
What do you think happens after this physical life? If your willing to answer please expound on it. I ( virgo) need that clairification.
If not, no issue ,I respect your right to not divulge your thoughts.

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posted November 30, 2005 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with thirteen.
Please explain.
One could look at it your way, but that is not logical to me.
That leaves no reason for thought to even exist.
Thought does exist.
So since it exists and the mental and physical processes that contribute to its being do exist....then how can a thing which exists, and is the result of an actual process; be only an illusion?
Sounds like we are flowing off into the realm of semantics which can be called a perceptual illusion.

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posted November 30, 2005 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
In response to your comment as to..
Who=the prison
and...
I=the psyche

Who is our self perception of us at any present moment...
I is the self awareness that moves us foreward beyond the now...and beyond the prison as you term it..and the limitations of the who...into the future or the past....beyond our physical "who" identity.

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posted November 30, 2005 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
I'm seeing a connection of your philosophies, fayte and beebuddy. They can very well go together and be a cohesive theory/picture.

Beyond the body, there is no longing for the body whatsover, or the physical realm. The soul, I believe has thought and emotion...even anxiety, just as when in it's human form. But the progression from the physical to Soul is a natural phenominon, and as such, the transition is not a transition at all. THAT is the illusion. The body is a shell. The physical 4th dimensional world~ the prison. So, I think I get what you are saying, beebuddy. Here in this existance, our thoughts, and whatever perceptions or beliefs we have of our identities are illusions, for our identity is unable to ever be restrictively (prison) defined. It is forever expanding, just as our thoughts.
The Infinate Ultimate Spiral.
(??? am I close?)

Thoughts are energy. All energy, including God is infinately expanding. There is no finish line. Was there ever a beginning?
I'm not sure. But I do believe that there is a collective Energy that resides in all Life...yet, this energy is only a fraction of what we Are.

Think of the continuous Dance of the Cosmos...swirling energy forever in motion, attracting and repulsing from one to another, just as neutrons and protons...gravitations forces. From the most tiniest microparticles of neutrinos to the most awesomely powerful and massive quasars. Yes, there is an Energy that exists within All...No this energy is not the entire story nor make-up.

WE are in constant movement and Evolution. We ARE already what we are becoming...
and yet we ARE becoming more than what we already are. Just as God. God is not unflexible, staid and stoic. God is in constant movement and evolution just as we are.

I know this seems a radical thought.
More on thoughts...Thoughts are also a fraction of our Being. We have to be careful of placing too much importance on them.
Think of the mentally challenged. Is their existance or energy any less significant than a doctorite scholar? Feeling/Emotion is just as powerful and able an Energy to manifest creation as well.

Fayte...I agree with your thoughts on thoughts as well. They are significant, as they are energy and as such have the ability to manifest creation in themselves. I believe our Souls are individual and unique. As we are in constant evolution, this Oneness that resides within us is a part...but we through many motions in moments through Time (time/no-time...yes, there is both always!) just as particles have cohesed, seperated...moved beyond, returned...we have become and are continuously becoming Unique as we were meant to become. But then again...this is what we always were...time/no time.
This/That...motion/stillness. It is a simultaneous Universe and our minds cannot begin to entirely fathom the possibilities of being an Integrated All...just yet. In this restrictive environment here, our senses confine us to analytical processes of definition...we are forever attempting to define the undefineable. But...it's our human nature to do so. And, it is quietly and subtly spurring a transformation in its own way.

Just my quiet beliefs and perceptions, anyway.

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posted December 01, 2005 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Nice quiet beliefs and perceptions. I enjoyed reading that.

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posted December 01, 2005 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
Thirteen,

The beauty of the "realization" of WHAT we are is that it eliminates the question... ""What do you think happens after this physical life?""

Fayte,

Without a doubt "we" are the conditioned state, the result of the movement that is thought. The irony is that what seeks freedom is that which confines... so it actually doesn't make sense to say "we are confined".

If what is being said here is incorrect then how do you explain the accuracy of astrology?

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posted December 01, 2005 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Well we are each already ONE in one body. Its our ego that gives rise to our illusion of seperatedness. Get rid of that ego and enjoy the bliss of oneness.

People waste too much time, fighting or fussing over stupid things that do not matter. These people are like the men in the story of 'elephant and ten blind man'.


Take care..have to catch some sleep now.



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posted December 01, 2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Lialei,

Hi. I liked your post on "Dance of Cosmos". I do that with my philosophies. Its written all over me. At times I am the noblest and at other times the meanest ***** (just kidding...not really)....

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beebuddy
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posted December 01, 2005 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
Iamthat,

Close but no cigar. Ego IS the illusion. Look a little closer.

"The absence of thought is the state of the unconditioned (nibbana)."

-Buddha

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Lialei
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posted December 02, 2005 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
iAm, yes it is written all over you. And it's very cool, I think. You take some here, recycle there, give, receive...but all the while remaining Open. That's the cool part.

'Get rid of that ego and enjoy the bliss of oneness.'

I don't feel we were meant to get rid of ego entirely. I feel the keys to bliss and wisdome are found in Integration between Both; All. Balance.
Center.
I believe our humanity is as beautiful and as significant as our Divinity. WE're both Beast and Divine. Why opposites? Pleasure/Pain...Misery/Joy...

To accept Pain and Misery is to accept Pleasure and Joy. To embrace one over the other in extremism is to renounce the Beauty and Potential found in the other. In Misery, Joy has potential to be found. With Pain, we Can know Joy and Pleasure. Childbirth is a prime example of that....also Sexual Desires.

It is our awareness and Integration of All that brings enlightenment; Expansion. Denial breeds regression.

I don't believe our Souls are meant to be aspiring to Perfection. I believe we are Perfection and Purity, just as we are Imperfection and Impurity. Both are Immense Beauty and Wonderment. With infinatly empowering abilities of Transmutation.

Ancient Religious and even New Age focus on Perfection belittles...misguides people,locking them into frustrating expectations.

"Live in the Now"
"Never Judge".

So, why do our natural Gifts, such as Memory and discernment exist? They are for a reason. Judgment...it has both good and bad potential, as everything. It is the awareness, acceptance and expression that matters. How do we see the word Judgment? If we see it as condemnation, than we have lost awareness...we are using extremism. If we use judgement, positively with non-judgement as well in mind...than we are discerning. Without discernation we are Lost. Everything has its purpose.

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posted December 06, 2005 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message

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