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Moon666Child
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posted February 28, 2006 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
Some people feel the intense need to communicate with someone who is dead. Usually, they desire to contact a loved one that they have lost or some simply harbor a fascination with death or the dead. When one wishes to reconnect with the presence of someone they have lost, they may turn to methods involving communication with the dead.

When one is interested in contacting the dead, there are a few techniques that can be followed, according to a Dr. Raymond Moody, who claims to be quite an expert when it comes to near-death experiences, as well as the afterlife. Moody suggests a technique that was used during ancient times for those who wanted to receive a vision. It is said that Nostradamus used this approach when he was foretelling the future. It simply involves a large mirror, as well as a variety of suggestions to ensure a positive and successful line of contact. Below you will find a checklist to follow when you want to attempt communication between the dead.

1) To gain a clear state of mind, one should refrain from consuming products that contain dairy and caffeine the day before an encounter is attempted. Fruits and vegetables should be the only simple foods that are consumed.

2) When attempting to contact the dead, you should position yourself in the quietest section of your dwellings. Watches and jewelry should be removed; loose clothing should be worn. Relaxation is the key for those who wish to contact the dead. Distractions, such as clocks and phones should be unplugged. When complete silence is achieved, a large mirror should be placed in front of you. The mirror should be at an angle that promotes comfortableness.

3) If you are having trouble reaching an altered state of mind, looking at artwork or listening to calming music can achieve a sense of awareness conducive to this type of act.

4) If you are trying to contact a loved one, you should surround yourself with some of their photographs, as well as their personal items. Touching the objects will bring you closer to who you are trying to contact. Some of the items you may choose to set about you may include family films, photo albums, old letters, glasses, a piece of their clothing, as well as a few of their favorite things. Anything that evokes feelings or memories should be used.

5) Light a candle and put it behind you. When dim light is used, it is best that it be placed behind your body. It is said that twilight hours is the best time to communicate with the dead because many people experience altered states. Some can mirror gaze surrounded by bright lights, but this takes time to get use to, as well as achieve.

6) When you are ready to mirror gaze, you should be in a comfortable, relaxed position. You will gaze into the mirror without trying to see anything; it will be similar to looking at something that is located far from view. You may start to feel a tingling within your fingertips.

7) The mirror may seem cloudy after some time, while others have reported that the mirror becomes darker in color. When things within the mirror do not seem as clear as they did before, you may be ready to experience contact with the dead.

8) Complete silence should still be maintained. Allow yourself to view the images that appear to you within the mirror (if you are lucky to experience this phase). The images that you may encounter will probably last for only less than a minute. Some people are able to view images for as long as 10 minutes, but this may take some time to develop. Sometimes you may not see a thing, but will instead hear the voice of your loved one. Some have claimed to actually feel their touch. Experiences with mirror gazing can be quite varied.


****taken from an article by Yona Williams****

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lotusheartone
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posted February 28, 2006 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You don't!
Why would you disturb a spirit, that is back in the light and love of GOD, and Learning and being Loved, why would this person come to your call..makes no sense to me..unless it's darkness..and well, that is the lowest dimension, spirit dimension

Sending EveryOne lots of LOVE and LIGHT. ...

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sue g
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posted February 28, 2006 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Moon....

Very interesting....

The spirits that revisit are often spirit guides....I had a visit from my grandfather the other evening. I didnt ask for this, he came...I was feeling a little sad at the time and looking for an answer to a difficult question....he came gently to me and gave me a wonderful reply....

He felt loving, light and warm......

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Moon666Child
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posted February 28, 2006 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
The ethics is another story!

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sue g
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posted February 28, 2006 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Yes of course Moon.....we were talking of technique/experiences, not ethics or saying it was right or wrong.....were we?

Very interesting subject

Thanks !!

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fayte.m
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posted February 28, 2006 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Like Sue g's visitation...it should be natural.

If one has to go through that much trouble and preparation to speak with the "dead"...then I believe that person should NOT be attempting such a thing...they are not ready! Speaking with the "dead" is alot different from conjuring or summoning the "dead".
Do not "play" with things you do not understand and that do not happen naturally.

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posted February 28, 2006 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hexxie     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Moon~ Yes, I agree, interesting topic!

I grew up knowing that my next door neighbor was (probablly still is) a Channeler(that's what my parents used to call her hehe). There were always a bunch of people going there in the evenings for 'meetings'. I would occasionally babysit for her kid and, let me tell you, that house had some trippy energy goin on!! I'm not sure the spirits ever really left so long as she lived there.

I would not want to do these steps to contact the dead personally because I had a bad experience with a miscehvious earth bound spirit when I was younger... but that's another story!

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Moon666Child
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posted March 01, 2006 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
I am not a ghost hunter myself, but I have had my own encounters. Some were merely my minds trick, but a few, there is no doubt they being paranormal encounters. And I also have had dreams where they have attempted contact, but I have closed my side, with not wanting to contact. Maybe my insecurity, maybe my apprehensions, but I don't want to contact unless I am all ready and set.

Though I agree with lotusheartone, there are certain situations, where the contact is made from the other side, and perhaps there is a reason too!

Will we ever know? that is the question!

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posted March 01, 2006 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
Like Miss Fayte said:
"Do not "play" with things you do not understand and that do not happen naturally."

While I do believe in spirit communication, one must be well trained, it is not something anyone should take lightly. Even those who operate at a higher frequency/vibrational rate, where this comes naturally need to know what they are doing and how to protect themselves.

Sure, anyone can pick up a ouige board(sp?)
or sit in front of a mirror and ask for spirits to come through........and they probably would get some results, but chances are you will be attracting lower vibrational entities.....so again, like Fayte said, "Do not "play" with things you do not understand and do not happen naturally!!"

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posted March 01, 2006 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
noreenz
Thank You!
This is not a game! This is not a thing to do for idle curiosity or for amusement!
One can get into serious trouble!
I realize these things are greatly embellished in the movies..but most folks could not handle even a tiniest of these type things or experiences! Do not "play" with this!
And most born with the ability to walk between..know the ropes instinctively so to speak. And they usually do not need "tools"..they just talk with them like to the living...because those on the other side...are usually real regular folk.
Well...
Some movie suggestions...
The Sixth Sense*****I can identify with the boy
The Others*****I can identify with both the servants and the blind medium
Stir Of Echoes****I can identify with the character played by Kevin Bacon
Lady In White*****I can identify with the boy
The Fog***I can identify with the woman Elizabeth
Ghost Ship***I can identify with the woman who helps free them..
Ghost****I can identify with both the characters played by Demi and Whoopie

This is something normal in my life. All my life to date. And even I have gotten into some situations that were very difficult...
Stick to the books and movies. Much safer for most folks.
Television and books often make it seem safe or fun even...for everyone and anyone to look into. But that is not true.

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fayte.m
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posted March 01, 2006 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Ahh...another observation...
"Angels In America" has some pretty good scenes of what folks would really act like if they saw that which they think they would like to see!
Love That Series!

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posted April 14, 2007 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thosa     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting thread...

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fayte.m
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posted April 14, 2007 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
"Do not "play" with things you do not understand and do not happen naturally!!"
And do not believe everyone who claims to have these experiences. Beware the spirit who IS still hanging around. It should not be here in most cases. Beware being fooled...
that may or may not be Granny.....
it may be the big bad wolf.....
And if it is Granny then tell her to go away! If she is still here this is not a good thing usually.....(exception, those rare contacts, of a singular type, after about 3 to 5 days after death...but then the entity goes on/leaves)
But the Little Red Riding Hoods WANT the enity to BE Granny.....
Often desperately desire it to be really Granny....
So they naively never get a real ID on the one contacting them.
Bad news folks.
So again....
If you are not one who knows how to be SURE 100% of who/what, then leave these things alone!
If it is still hanging around here attempting to influence etcetera.....
And is what you expect......
Be it traditionally "spooky" or cute.....
If it is still here.....
Then something is usually very wrong.....
Normally souls go onward naturally. Any who do not....
Beware....and best leave it be...

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posted April 14, 2007 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Good Advice, Fayte!

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posted April 14, 2007 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
Ok Fayte, you have an interesting take on spirits and ghosts. But what if someone can't help that these entities are attracted to what ever it might be? Can one really be accountable for something they themselves can't explain? Things happen for a reason I believe and mostly for purpose of learning. There are probably many realms that exist that mankind has yet to come into reach with...Does that make me a bad person because some spirit likes to tease me and bother me?

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posted April 14, 2007 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Lotus.

Folks treat this too often as a thing of FUN and GAMES!

Opening themselves up to all kinds of overlayings, posessions and more.

This is not a game or a thing to trifle with.


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posted April 14, 2007 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
copesthetic

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Libra, yes you do, it's just a warning, that it is best to ignore them, they are on the lower plane for a reason, and often times, it is not for good, the good one's will listen to you, and cross over, to continue their learning and growing and not stay in the stagnant state they have chosen, for they want to move on. ...

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posted April 14, 2007 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
libraschoice7
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Ok Fayte, you have an interesting take on spirits and ghosts. But what if someone can't help that these entities are attracted to what ever it might be? Can one really be accountable for something they themselves can't explain? Things happen for a reason I believe and mostly for purpose of learning. There are probably many realms that exist that mankind has yet to come into reach with...

Like I said, some folks are born being able to contact/be contacted without even trying to.
That is natural. I am talking of folks who "play" with it. Or ask for it. Or Cause a spirit to feel guilt about leaving and do not give it permission to leave. The living can trap the dead and the dead can then influence the living.
That is unfair to both sides and potentially dangerous.
One should tell the enity it is ok to go.
In most cases it will comply. It simply needed someone to tell it that.

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posted April 14, 2007 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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I have every right to my say, whether one cares for it or not

I saw nothing wrong in what you said.
You seem to understand.

You added to your post above:

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Does that make me a bad person because some spirit likes to tease me and bother me?

Why on Earth would that make you a bad person? Seems you are a sensitive is all. Just ask them what they want and if they will not tell you, then tell them to move on!

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posted April 14, 2007 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
It just people in other threads have made disparaging remarks, or more like mocking about the idea of ghosts. I feel like I have to be in defense mode when talk about this subject, it's a force of habit...

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posted April 14, 2007 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
libraschoice7
I certainly can relate to that feeling!
Many folks think it is nonsense and others think it evil or worse......
when folks let their imaginations run wild especially after seeing a ghost movie.

Is this something you have experienced all your life to date or a new recent thing?

Does it scare you or is it just interesting?
I must go for awhile.
I will be back.
Take care.
And thanks for posting!

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posted April 14, 2007 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
libraschoice7
I also did not see your posts until after I posted....
hope we are in sync now."
Until later.....

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