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Nephthys
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posted September 21, 2006 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I would like to start a discussion & spiral ideas on Why there is so much mystery about the spirit world.
Why is there this wall, which prevents us from seeing it, knowing it, understanding it? When someone passes, there is nothing but silence. There is no more sight of them. There is no more clear physical reality.
(Yes, I know that some people can communicate with others in the spirit world, I have felt spirits and heard my Dad once.)
I have been taught that the spirit world IS reality and this (earth) is the world of illusion. But HOW can that be, when this is the world of physical pain, with nerves running throughout our physical bodies. How can pain be an illusion? Have you ever had a severe migraine? Don't tell me that it's an illusion.
Why is there so much unknown, and what is the point of us not knowing?
Yes, I know some books tell stories of people who have passed and then had to come back because it wasn't there "time". But there is no definitive evidence of what it is really like............

Would like to hear people's ideas on WHY we have the MYSTERY.

Thank you.

Somewhere, over the

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sue g
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posted September 21, 2006 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
My Accupuncturist told me last week that within the next few years...the mysteries around the other side will vanish!!!

He said we shall be able to pick up a phone and speak to the departed....imagine that?

I have a fair bit of contact with the other side. If I visit a medium or a healer I always get someone coming through..maybe because I am very open and want them to talk to me....

I must say I do like the mystery which is attached to "beyond the veil".....its very neptunian/plutonian isnt it?

Great thread....!!

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Yang
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posted September 22, 2006 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion, I think people are not ready to realise that we can actually see into the spirit world, because it would most likely frighten them! And we wouldn't know how to deal with it.

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fayte.m
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posted September 22, 2006 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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sue g
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posted September 22, 2006 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
My first experience of the spirit world was when my maternal granny died (romany gypsy bloodline). I had seen her layed in her coffin just before she was buried...

Feeling a little fearful at that time, I visited a medium who brought gran thro...so strong was the message I became an instant believer....and the message? Well she told me to tidy up the pile of clothes which was reaching halfway up the wall of my bedroom...such a specific message got me to thinking I had made a strong connection... I loved the humour of it too...!! She was a very jolly round little woman!

There has been loads of other stuff, more serious and touching....but suffice to say, I am in contact with the "other side" daily....

My mother has come to me a few times...but as time goes by she will be with me more, of this I am sure...

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Nephthys
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posted September 22, 2006 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all of your replies.

Sue G, How synchronistic that your acupuncturist just said that, and now I post this.

Fayte, great picture.

Yang, interesting thought. Hmmm...though with so much war, and brutality in this world, I do think people could handle it.

BUT ~ Yes, I KNOW that most of us have had contact with the spirit world. That isn't what I am asking. I am asking WHY the GREAT MYSTERY of it being such a BLOCK, such a WALL from this world. So much silence. It's a mystery in general to the masses.

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posted September 22, 2006 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I think its a big part of our spiritual evolution...God's divine plant if ye like....

And when the time is right,,,,the veil will be brought down....I think up until now the mystery surrounding it is timely...a waiting period...a testing time, maybe?

How verty intriguing...hope I am around to see it...

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posted September 22, 2006 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
HHMMMMM YESSSS

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I think its a big part of our spiritual evolution...God's divine plant if ye like....

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sue g
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posted September 22, 2006 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hahaha....

I said plant....I meant plan...oooohhh is there a hiding meaning in there...

Watch out for talking plants folks...

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sue g
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posted September 22, 2006 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
2012 comes to mind....

A huge spiritual shift I feel will come around this time....

As my accupuncturist has said to me..."something wonderful is about to happen"

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posted September 22, 2006 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mysticaldream     Edit/Delete Message
Sue, I think you are right on!

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posted September 22, 2006 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I have very reliable spirit guides (so I am told... )

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Nephthys
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posted September 22, 2006 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Eagerly awaiting for "something wonderful" to come along soon!

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posted September 22, 2006 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
gosh..I have a million things to say..
where do you begin..weary, at the end of the day..

We can all communicate..through mental telepathy..if you go within..and know God

all else will fall into place..the reality..is the
illusion..and vice-versa..upside down..

As above so below..OverSoul in Heaven
the you-of-you..the real you..no illusion
to higherSelf Spirit..medium..
to Mind the Physical. ...

it is very hard work to know..and you can know at anytime..it's up to you..and only you
to find the Divine within you..
God created us all equally..
there is only One and Only God..for all the Worlds and Universe's

and all actions change probablilities..

We must all understand..that we must each fix ourSelves..before we can show anyOne else..the Truth..

You must do your Own Great Work..Your purpose..
Your mission

Your Promised for Tomorrow

Heaven on Earth..the Trinity..United. ...

LOve LOve LOve. . .

P.S...It's all up to US..each and everyOne..
all connected..all sisters and brothers..all equal..deserving of LOve and Respect... .

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BlueTopaz124
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posted September 22, 2006 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Great thread!

I feel that for some people, it's fear that prevents us from seeing/hearing the departed, as though we block our own abilities to experience them. For me that's a little true. I know I have the ability to be in touch with Spirit more than my sister, I've always been open to it. My sister is a little doubting of the fact that a person dies and they are not gone, just energy in another form.

When I was younger, I would hear voices call my name and I was afraid and knew they were spirits but didn't know who. So I stopped being able to hear them. But I always know when my departed relatives are around me, in different ways.

I'm very sensitive to energy and am empathic, open to all of these spiritual connections.

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posted September 23, 2006 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
I fought with a Spirit all through my teenage years, try do that and coping with everything else a teenager has to go through... sheesh!

Needless to say Ive been left with an odd view of this place and I find it boring... Most Psychic mediums that cross paths with me nowadays have two basic reactions: Curiosity followed by fear when they start to read me ROFL!

As for the spirit realm, probably alot like being in a constant state of lucid OBE with access to all areas of the universe... OBE'S can be scary at first so any visits to the spirit world would be also quite scary should you find yourself there before your time...

Other than that I'm sure there are tour guides and what not to help you integrate into the upper realms with sublime ease...

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posted September 23, 2006 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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BlueTopaz124
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posted September 23, 2006 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Beautiful pictures, fayte! Where did you find them? Especially the one of the woman sitting on the bench?

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lotusheartone
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Yes..wonderful pictures, Fayte!

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Nephthys
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posted September 24, 2006 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I got goosebumps looking at those pictures...........they stir my Soul......and open up my S-elf. The first one is especially intriguing.

The girl sitting on the bench is wicked! Just in time for Halloween!

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posted September 24, 2006 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
BlueTopaz124....

I do not remember. Will have to try to track it down.
I Googled the name but could not find her yet again.
Same for the rest of them.
I will save links from now on and post them too.
Thanks everyone!

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BlueTopaz124
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posted September 25, 2006 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Fayte. I found it - it's called Carmine by Natalie Shau

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