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sesame
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posted May 16, 2007 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hey dudes and dudettes (is that PC?)

Anyone up with Reiki? I've started looking into it after years of knowing it exists and waiting for me. The thing is, sometimes it sounds too simple, and yet, what else would you expect? And like all things that are discovered by humanity, it seems distorted somewhat by our herbs and spices. My example here is Takaho. She seems to be the primary gateway of Reiki into the West, and there are definitely benefits to this, but the exorbitant fees she has seemed to charge, and her naming of "Grand Master" and the like seem outrageous. I don't get how someone who learnt for so long about something that helped her so much can turn out to be so weird? And yet, she really is a blessing for the Western world. In any case, Reiki seems to be the Spiritual Energy Force that permeates all things (maybe the holy ghost of the bible?) It is said to be practiced for thousand of years, but re-learnt in the 19th century by a Japanese man. This guy sounds like a saint! His love and compassion fo all things seem legendary and hence the gift he received in the form of Reiki seems completely justified. I love how stuff like this happens, and in today's day and age? Hey, could you imagine what it would be like if this dude was the second coming of Jesus? Who's to say his form wouldn't be Japanese?

Anyhow, any thoughts on Reiki? Anyone up to level three? Any skeptics or people who've been ripped off? It sounds truly like Reiki is Universal Love, and that it is also inteligent - hence when you use it to heal, all you need to do is be patient, and allow the energy to work, so I'm wondering where is the skill? Why are there three levels that take years to master? Surely anyone can do this, and if so, what would the world be like if everyone did get off their butts and learn this stuff?

Lemme know what you guys think!

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

ps. I also LOVE how so many things are related - Like I just saw Oprah's show on the Secret tonight, and am reading some Reiki and Colour therapy books, and everywhere I look, I see the same things! But I'm sure there are signs in infinite areas within this one verse.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!)

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SunChild
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posted May 17, 2007 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Dean

I became connected with a lady in Sydney who offers Reiki Courses through her website. That's how I got started.
I remember having a friend who was into Reiki but at the time I didn't believe in it. I only began to understand the simplicity of Reiki when I learned about energy.

The understanding really hit home when I learned about Dr. Emotos water experiments. I didn't doubt then that our thoughts, intentions and imagination can be so powerful to affect our reality so much.

Reiki is all about kindness, compassion and healing, in the most simplest form. It's all about how we direct our thoughts. That's what drew me to it. One reiki session can make you feel so warm, pure and energized its hard to believe it at first.

I'm at level 2...but not practising at the moment. I often do reiki on myself, partner, friends and animals. My partners lower back was really painful one night so I massaged it for about 5 minutes using Reiki, and then the pain left and he was able to sleep deeply all night. I have no doubts.

I feel there is a technique and a head-space you need to tune into. It is simple, however, you need to know it. That may take a couple of years of reading theory, practising, talking with other masters, and being patient.
You need to believe you are a chanel for this energy and allow it to flow through you.

I use several techniques, if someone is lacking energy, or is generally feeling unwell, I will pour light into each chakra.
Or if there is a specific area, such as a headache, back ache, sprain or injury, my hands then become like a magnet, and I pull the dark clouds of injury into the magnetic energy from my hands and then wash it away, and follow up with light healing. That's my way, which I know works, and I didn't read it out of a book, I discovered it for myself. I had to feel my way through healing.

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sesame
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posted May 17, 2007 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks SunChild. That means a lot!

Dean.

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posted May 17, 2007 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
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artlovesdawn
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sesame
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posted May 24, 2007 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks ArtLovesDawn,

I too will get level one, I think that will be inevitable. I think I've always wanted too, but for purely spiritual reasons. I don't really want to use it on people, but I'm open to the idea if I feel ready. Do you feel the energy flow through you though? I'm lead to believe that it is a definite sensation once you've been attuned, but from the books I've been reading there are a fair amount of contradications. One book said you can use it on broken bones, and it is a myth that Reiki will make the bones heal incorrectly and need to be broken again to be set by doctors, and guess what? The next book I read said the exact opposite! In the end, I think you have to use common sense, and get the bone treated first, but Reiki used while waiting for the ambulance or whatever could reduce swelling and help reduce pain. Sure sounds interesting. As for Faith Healing, it always seems like these methods rely on God or your higher self, which you cannot feel, but must trust is there and will heal if you TRULY want them too. Reiki on the other hand is a feeling, so you should know if it's working at least, but you still use Faith to Know that the issue on a higher level will also be healed, and also that with each person you heal, the World and all inhabitants are also healed. There is definitely a Spirituality behind Reiki that seems to border-lin Religion. Some prayers and medititations to Reiki seem to substitute the word God for Reiki, and of course, God is Reiki, but maybe people don't want to confuse the Spiritual with the Religious.

SunChild,

Have you heard of Reiki Australia? They are having a seminar this year involving Hiroshi Doi who was mentioned in a book I read. The costs are amazing to attend the second day, but honestly, I wouldn't pay too much out of principle. If the Master wants to teach you, then it will benefit the Master and the World just as much as you. Anyone that charges exorbitant fees is untrustworthy in my book. I've read that all healing sessions should occur after the customer trades something, which doesn't have to be money. But in any case, I think things like this should be cheap due to there very nature. Paying for someone like Hiroshi Doi though is a different matter. You could possibly learn an invaluable amount.
http://www.reikiaustralia.com.au/Page/WhatsNew

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted May 25, 2007 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Dean.

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venusdeindia
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posted May 25, 2007 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
hi, i have recently concluded a 2 nd level REIKI course n i'm lovin it
i m really lucky to have found a good master who is not only a professional but a spiritually advanced human being,
here is her website
www.rainbowray.com

On the questions asked above, okay brace yourselves...

my guru told me a general idea about REIKI, but no further, in a case of complete divine intervention i ended up buying a couple of REIKI books, one in hindi ,2 in english.


the origin of REIKI as follows..............

DR. USUI who was the first reiki master was a christian minister in a japanese university.one of his students asked him to explain how CHRIST healed people.as he had no answer, USUI left the job, n set out to seek the answer to this question.this led him to christian institutions in AMERICA, EUROPE et al, with no consequences. then he heard about the stories in buddhist tradition about the healing powers of BUDDHA that had many parallels with the biblical accounts. this led him to BENARAS ,the oldest city in INDIA which has monasteries of every religious tradition that exists in INDIA.here he discoverd that CHRIST himself had spent 11 of his 18 missing years, that the BIBLE just pretends not to notice. the monks at the monastry in response to his pleas let him examine several manuscripts that they had been unable to decipher anyway. this is when he stumbled on the HOLY GRAIL!!!!
even though he could read SANSKRIT, the incantations, were not followed by instructions, he had to work out the method of using the energies for healing purposes on his own.he took the information with him, back to JAPAN, and proceede, to meditate for 21 days on a mountain, when atlast the technique finally dawned upon him, this is the REIKI doctrine that is taught by REIKI masters

as for the religion versus spiritual question,

CHRIST was definitely a REIKI master of the highest caliber. read " JESUS LIVED IN INDIA " to see how the 2 stories fit like a glove, he was a definite HEALER, and all instances of miraculous healing in the BIBLE are true.read the LOTUS SUTRA in the BUDDHIST DOCTRINE, he was initiated into healing by the buddhist monks he congregated with in INDIA.
THE REIKI energy is neither CHRISTIAN nor BUDDHIST, the energy that flows through the healer flows from his or her HIGHER SELF and not from anywhere else.
REIKI is the same as:

IGHT OR HOLY GHOST of the Christians
BARAKA of the Sufis
HEALING POWER of Hippocrates
KA of Egyptian Healers
PNEUMA of the Greeks
JESOD of the Jewish Kabbala
BIOPLASMIC ENERGY dicovered by Russian scientists

Reiki is the Universal energy that flows in every cell of our being through the CROWN CHAKRA, from our Higher Self, however our EGO, thoughts ,actions and feelings block this higher energy,.
The Reiki initiaition opens this channel so that divine energy, that our Higher Selves are made of can flow through once again.
phew
i will talk about the second level in detail in a new thread.

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sesame
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posted May 26, 2007 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Artlovesdawn, no probs with my responses, thank you heaps for yours! Can I ask, did you find it expensive? One "teacher" I asked is charging 300 bucks! Another I'm thinking about will probably be the same, but you know what? I've been thinking a lot about a guy at work who does Reiki, but I don't think he's a Master, but I'm sure he won't rip me off, so I'll attempt that avenue.

Heaveno Venusdeindia Thanks for your answers! So level 2 huh? Do you practice the symbols much? A book I've been reading said you can use them on everything from water bottles to traffic and problematic dogs, etc. Also, that distant and time healing may occur, which sounds interesting, but scheduling healing sessions to go all night, and then for you to go to sleep sounds fantastical. I don't doubt it so much, but there are certain things that don't gel with me, for instance, beaming energy can be as effective as hands on, so why do hands on? Also, they keep saying the healing will complete the person - that their energy can not be filled past a certain point, and then talk about supplementing Reiki with gems, colour reflexology, etc, but if it filled the person with energy, then why bother with these other things? On one level it makes perfect sense that you can increase the power of transmission and maybe it will last longer, but on the other, you'd expect a healing to last for a long time. The books never talk about how often healings should occur with patients, or whether you'd know if they are filled with energy. If someone had cancer for example, and you were easing their discomfort, would you need to do this every few hours as the cancer makes the person uncomfortable?

Thanks everyone for your time in answering me,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!)
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posted May 31, 2007 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
thanx dean
about the second level, i have been meditating since forever, well ( i m an indian!!), i have never been able to pray, or meditate without distractions, everything from laundry to that movie i saw crossed my mind, i would actually felt shameless, standing in the temple with my hands folded , apparently praying, looking right at god and thinking about other things


for the SECOND LEVEL course the master opens the initiates the students third eye chakra, called the AJNA CHAKRA , the initiation helps the pituatory gland function, the third eye, that is the real eye of our soul, this eye helps connects us to our HIGHER SELF CONSCIOUSNESS.the student is given some symbols to draw physically or mentally with eyes closed on the pineal gland at the centre of the brain under the CROWN CHKRA that connects us to HYPERSPACE where there is no time, no past, no present, no future, this is the real reality, what we live is an illusion as LINDA has rightly taught us

check these links to understand the significance of theses chakras


http://www.shivayoga.net/literature/shivayoga/shivayoga-technique-of-opening-third-eye.htm

the difference the initiaition has made is amazing, i can fully log onto my higher self consciousness, meditate for an hour without any distracting thoughts
even if one does not want to be a healer the initiation is valuable, i had been in vain trying IQHUNKS chakra and other meditations , but i couldnot log into my supermind for them to work not i can!

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posted May 31, 2007 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
as for the heling in the second level, here u r taught to heal across space and time, using your initiaition.
HOW?
well i live in india, world space radio is available here and the time difference is 12 hours, a song playing right now on american radio was heard by me , 12 hours ago!!!!!!!!!!!11
NO TIME , said LINDA
only thing is u need the initiaion.
in the firast leve u have to physically touch yourself, or the other person, here all u have to do is meditate, and concentrate where u need the energy to go, that's it.
u can also send energy to a problem u had in the past say a year or 10 years, u were going thru **** and it has left u with bitterness and psychological problems. a shrink will heal u now but the marks of no wound r erased by therapy, u lose a part of yoouself to that wound, i know that, becoz i have been there.

i will forever be grateful to my master, and the science of REIKI, for healing my wounds, in the past, not the present, because the the painful past happening simultaneously was affecting my presents like the war marks ofa warrior.
i have never been this happy, this free, this open to giving and receiving love to my family and friends, i indeed, haver started living now.
as for the synbols

u are provided 3 symbols that u draw mentally for the healing.. an INDIAN gentlemen, MADHUBASI SUBRAMANIUM lived in a buddhist monastery for years, and has persuaded the monks, to let him release in a book, 30 new symbols.these can cut energy blockages, past life trauma that is stored in the emotional body, balance the left and right sides of the brain etc..

the name of the book is BEAUTIFUL LIGHT, but i doubt its available outside INDIA.

gemstones can enhance the healing greatly, like for example dean, u can place a large piece of ROSE QUARTZ, on ther heart and put ur hand on it, it provides great relief to a heart patient, or anyone who needs a little love.

these books are very good,

REIKI- universal life energy --by Sharamon and Baginski

Reiki with gemstones - by ursula omenka

u shold be able to order these easily. they r a gem
as for a cancer patient, cancer is caused by a mind pattern of RESENTMENT, that eats away at you, its a form of self hatred, only self love can relieve a cancer patient, i would advise the patient themself learn Reiki and give themself energy.a lot of past life pain and wounds are storedin our subconscious, reiki meditation helps to find out the cause of the disease, if past life and it can be healed.

thats that for know , any queris shall be met. later.bye

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posted May 31, 2007 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
May I ask a question?

How do we KNOW when our third eye is really, TRULY opening?

I thought mine was recently, but I was just deceiving myself with fantasy.

Searching for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


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ListensToTrees,

I think it is different for everybody, but I think you just are constantly seeing things, like LOve and Magic, things happen, and you see
clearly as to why, and that there is a reason for everything. I'm in constant conversation with God and the Universe, birds talk to me everyday, chipmunks, etc. It's funny, but I know what my dogs and cats are thinking, lol,
I always know what they need, they just tell me, lol, you all, proabaly think I am crazy!
But, that is the way it is, a constant communication with all, from the trees to a blade of grass, all is alive and ready to help us learn, all in their unique way.
Meditation is a wonderful tool, to connect, and be guided, to where your path goes, and what you need to Learn.
It happens naturally, nothing is forced, in the process of the third eye, when it is time, it all starts happening more quickly.
ListensToTrees, your third eye is open, it's just hard in this world, relax, and you will see again, don't worry about it!

LOve to ALL. ...

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posted May 31, 2007 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah...I do know what you mean- it is not crazy- I can 'sense' what animals are feeling too....

Sometimes, when I am alone with trees, I feel as if the Earth is crying out....hence the name....ListensToTrees

Religious and spiritual disillusion scare me, thats all....however, I am deeply spiritual....that's why I am here!

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posted May 31, 2007 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. I think it is more effective to meditate say, in the garden than in a quiet room....when it is just you and the birds singing their evening song....let me tell you- WOW.

Singing, I believe is a form of meditation too.

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posted May 31, 2007 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
P.P.S. I've just been thinking a lot lately about sanity and insanity, reality and fantasy.

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I'm mad you're mad, we're all mad!
hehe, when we think of this, we know we
are at that point, reality or fantasy..
well, I'll tell you, we are not crazy,
just crazy as a daisy, lol
Singing and dancing, in the Gardens,
under a Blue Moon, today!
The full Moon will be touching the
constellation Scorpius, WOW!

LOve and Magic!

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posted May 31, 2007 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks heaps venusdeindia, you answered a lot of my questions. I really don't want to pay a lot for the attunements though. Did Usui? Did Jesus? Ah well, we'll see. I want to get it, so may fork out in the end.

Listens, have you heard about Rieki on trees? Seems very beneficial for both parties. May also be used on plants. I'm wondering if using it on my guitar will help me a bit. Maybe make the guitar sound better

Lotus, sounds great. I think that we all communicate on some level. I always count the number of birds to see if they stay together. We have a lot of crows, galahs, bats, and lorakeets. I try to communicate sometimes, but they just stare at me. I once interrupted some crows that waited for me to leave before talking again - like they knew I could understand them, but really, even if I did, would the information be useful? Maybe.

I really must sleep - it's 2330 here.
Heaps of Love,
And sweet dreams,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!)
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posted May 31, 2007 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Wow- I'd never heard of Reiki on trees before- FASCINATING! Thanks.

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Dean,

You know, I count the birds, too! I was thinking of Linda telling us about how the birds singing in the spring, gave vibrations for growth, and that is why they sing so much in spring. I think of our little winged creatures as mini angel messengers. ...

LOve and Reverence to ALL... .

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Yes, Lotus....maybe you are right...birds being winged angel messengers....think about it: They fly; not succumbing to gravity, in the way we do. They live in trees (trees heal). They sing (music is the pure language of the soul). And when I sat in my garden to meditate the other evening listening to the birds' evening song- something powerful came over me!

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ListensToTrees, you know what I think may be very important, what they are saying, is to migrate, to follow them, and the animals, they have pure instinct. ...

They sing, to bring Learning and Growing... .

The Signs-Sings are all here, shall we listen,
Sing, and Dance?

Yes, to the music of the spheres. . .

Amen-Awomen

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