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ListensToTrees
Knowflake

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posted June 19, 2007 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I was reading this very interesting blog today which made me realize I have something in common with this woman.

I too, have had the traits of an empath, since childhood. At first it was primarily with animals, but I was also highly sensitive to the general energy a person emanated, as well as the atmosphere of a room.(I am not saying I am special in any way- I am very much a student in life with many mountains to climb and issues to overcome)

Perhaps people who possess empathic qualities, but never really labeled them as such, often long for the same kind of compassion to be returned to them. When it is not, it can sting their hearts so badly, their soul cries to know why they were treated this way, it begs for understanding but the lack of it can end up wounding their own self-esteem.

We all have strengths and weaknesses. Even saints! YES!
WE ALL HAVE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES. Open your eyes, open all you who don't real-eyes.


After I had found this woman's website today, it got me thinking. Perhaps empathic people should unite together....form groups....learn from each other?

Any thoughts, my Knowflake Snowflakes?

Wow, I'm listening to the music on the website right now...it's fantastic

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fayte.m
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posted June 19, 2007 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
My husband and I are both empathic. We pick up on the feelings and emotions of others, people and animals easily. And yes, it can be disturbing and disruptive to us until we identify where differing feelings are being projected from. It is like being a Deanna Troi(StarTrek) on all the time.
But despite it being something that cannot be turned off, and at times we wish we could, we would rather be empathic all the time than not.
We are working on developing our telepathy.
And it sure helps us as a couple because we can feel each other on a level many folks may only be able to imagine.


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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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fayte.m
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posted June 19, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
The blog link would not let me in.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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ListensToTrees
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posted June 19, 2007 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Good for you and your husband, Fayte

It wouldn't let you in? strange. I clicked on it just now and it worked...probably an internet traffic jam, hehe.

I have been reading more of her blog....BEAUTIFUL....the bit on Light Workers I think is especially helpful to us. And I definitely agree with the one about 'The Eyes of a Child'

It would probably make life easier if my partner possessed this ability, of empathy! How blessed are those who can share this with someOne.

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fayte.m
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posted June 19, 2007 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
LTT I have seen much empathic ability in your posts. {{{HUGS}}}

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted June 20, 2007 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
ListensToTrees...always love to say your name it's almost as much fun spelling it

I agree with fayte.m...
Your Empathic abilities do shine brightly throughout your posts!

Karens site is absolutely magical, I got caught up and lost just on her front page.
I especially liked these:

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If you want to find out how powerful you are, make up your mind to succeed: Heaven and earth will move to accomodate your decision.

Now, I will need to go back and check out her blog area too!
The music is just as mesmerizing!
Thank you for sharing this website


Sendin' love your way,
your friend in spirit

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 20, 2007 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
yourfriendinspirit

Thank you, and Fayte, for the compliment. Very pleased to meet you Have we met before?


Question:

Are there more empathic women than MEN?

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fayte.m
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posted June 20, 2007 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Good question!
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Are there more empathic women than MEN?
I wish I could answer that one.
But since most of my offline friends are male and all empathic and my online ones both male and female, I am not sure. Several ladies have shown to empathic I have met online. Fewer men online seem empathic but a few are.
So online my experience is women are more empathic and offline men are.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
I'm VERY VERY VERY empathetic. Of course, most people,find that hard to believe. I can pick easily on the feelings of people even through the phone (and the internet too! ) Same goes with animals too. I always suspected that my bf is, but I don't know....

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 20, 2007 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I think that the reason I struggle so much in my relationship is because my boyfriend is one of the least empathic people.

I think I have been. I mean, how many other women could tolerate the fact, from the beginning, that he said he could NEVER live with ANY woman, no matter who she was, due to his solitary/ creative nature, as well as his childhood experiences.

When I met him he was extremely bitter about his ex-girlfriend because he said she had betrayed him by lying to him about who she really was, even though he said he never loved her. Now, even though I don't justify her actions, I could immediately understand her point of view as well as his. I told him that if he could understand, there would be no reason for him to be bitter to the EXTENT that he was. It took a VERY long time and MUCH tiresome talking to make him see.

Don't get me wrong. He is an extremely wonderful person in so many other ways. He has some RARE, RARE qualities. It is just that empathy doesn't seem to be one of them, in a lot of circumstances anyway.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 20, 2007 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
I am sorry ListensToTrees (wonderful name btw)

I know what you mean. i know what its like to be empathetic and not have that favour returned to you. I have learned to live with it. I have tried to lower my expectations from people. Still it hurts. it does.

I can see from your pics, the empathy that you have. also from many of your posts here. as well as your screen name. (i used to talk to trees when i was a kid, and still do sometimes...)

love
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ListensToTrees
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posted June 20, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, ILWL

Thank you for the compliments. You guys are great for the self-esteem!

It is interesting just how many of you can empathize with some of the things I have written.


Love & Light

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 20, 2007 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I am SO not alone!!!

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mudmama
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posted June 20, 2007 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mudmama     Edit/Delete Message
Empath here with an empath daughter. I learned of mine through counseling ten years ago. I had a wonderful counselor who helped me through deep depression and agoraphobia. It was ascertained that I had suffered from a level of depression most if not all my life (I had been mid/late 20's when I learned this). Suddenly I felt less crazy!! There was a reason I felt all these things and was constantly overwhelmed. My emotion-sponging had me unable to figure out what I was feeling and why. Once I learned that 80% of what I was feeling wasn't even mine I finally made progress. It has been ten years of lots of work. She said that the majority of empaths suffer from alcoholism, drug addiction, severe depression and are more likely to commit suicide if they are unaware of their gifts (or learn how to manage them). I attempted suicide once, was treated as high risk for suicide (when I was 27 hence the counselor), had alcohol issues, eating issues. IT has been since I saw the empathic abilitiies in my daughter that I finally plucked my head from my butt and worked hard to learn all I could and work with it.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 20, 2007 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
no u aren't alone ListensToTrees !!

ILWL

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 20, 2007 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDreamer81     Edit/Delete Message
The guy I like is empathetic.HE told me in one of our first phone conversations that whenever he was in a crowd he could easily find who was upset(even if you couldn't tell by looking at them...).His friends and family are always coming to him for "counciling",and he seems to be good at it.I told him he should be a therapist!He said it felt overwhelming and draining at times.He gets premonitions too.He is a Double Virgo w/ Cancer Rising.I think the Cancer Asc. is what makes him empathetic,and the Double Virgo makes him want to be of service to others.

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Oh wow, ListenstoTrees. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, that sucks. I know we can't expect everyone wot be like us, but a little understanding would be nice. I always end up distancing myself from people who I feel just don't care.


To tell you the truth, I don't think my boyfriend is empathetic either; sympathetic sounds more accurate to describe him. Its a rare occasion that actually gets affected by people's moods to the extent that I do. I mean, I know he can pick up on other people's moods like mine, but I don't think he's ever let them (especially negative ones) affect him. I envy him. But then again, he does have alot of nervous energy....ahhhhh, its confusing!

Love to you guys!

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 20, 2007 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
mudmama, Wow....I never realized this could happen to empaths. What an incredible counselor!

Moondreamer81.....Wow.

Thank you for your sympathy, Dulce Luna.


Do you guys think that this could be the reason I suffer so badly with stress? Like, if one of my boys starts crying or whining, the noise goes right through me and I often feel I can't cope....hope that doesn't make me sound bad....

I'm also incredibly squeamish. I'm sure that that has got something to do with empathy. i probably would have pursued a meaningful career such as vet nursing or general nursing or midwifery if it weren't for my squeamishness!

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fayte.m
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posted June 20, 2007 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
My ex#1 and ex#2 were as empathic as cement blocks.
But man could they both project their emotions!
They hated it because no matter how hard they tried to deny they were angry or sad, or lying and feeling guilty, I knew, I could feel it. They accused me of reading their minds.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
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Do you guys think that this could be the reason I suffer so badly with stress? Like, if one of my boys starts crying or whining, the noise goes right through me and I often feel I can't cope....hope that doesn't make me sound bad....

That's exactly how I get around crying children. I know this is kind of selfish but its probably the reason why I don't know if I'll have children.....like ever. Its not like I'll outright act really bitchy when they cry; I'll do my best to comfort them...but the crying just gets to be too much.


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My ex#1 and ex#2 were as empathic as cement blocks.
But man could they both project their emotions!

Arrrgghhh, I hate that. I mean, I know that some people can't help projecting their emotions but its when they don't understand or care (return the favor) that its frustrating!

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fayte.m
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posted June 20, 2007 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I can cope with children when they are crying for pain, hunger or something like that.
What sets my nerves on edge are the shreekers one encounters in public, who go about shrilling and shhreeking and in terrible nerve ripping high pitched screeching because they are spoiled little brats with bad cases of the gimmies, gimme this gimmie that wahhhh shreek! I cannot tolerate that! Get me away from those little monsters!
arrrgh!
But I feel nothing but love and compassion for a child who is crying for a real reason. Yeah I feel it go through me and the mothering instinct takes over when I encounter them.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I should've amde the distinction earlier. Children crying in need are the ones I can deal with (hunger, need to be held, etc). And besides, when their needs are satisfied, they stop.

Its the ones who are spoiled and throw tantrums when they don't get what they want that really get to me.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 21, 2007 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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Lei_Kuei
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posted June 21, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
The worst part about Empathy is the constant getting bummed out by being around negative people all the time...

Most people in this world seem very sad to me :

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 21, 2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I know, and I have learned to distance myself from people like that. My own mother is the Queen of Cynics!

As for the stress thing with me....it is another big mountain to climb, but I'll get there.....I have given birth for goodness sakes, surely I can pull through this!!

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