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NAM
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posted September 07, 2007 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Inspired by Fayte's survey.... I have been wanting to ask this once and for all, no big answers please just yes or no.

Do you beleive you have a "other half?"
Not companion, soulmate etc but you are half of your soul and your other half is somewhere out there?

Answer:

Yes

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fayte.m
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posted September 07, 2007 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Good topic!
But my answer....is not a simple one of yes or no.

No.
I do not need another half. I am whole. I do have as my beloved, a man who is whole. We had no need to complete each other. We came together by choice, not a need to find completion in another.

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nattie33
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posted September 07, 2007 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
I know you wanted a yes or no answer. But i'm not sure. Maby

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naiad
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posted September 07, 2007 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message
Nam ~ i think you might enjoy Dion Fortune's book, The Esoteric Philosophy of Love and Marriage. it has some very interesting ideas on the spiritual essence of our relationships, including those with soulmates.

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aquaspryt69
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posted September 07, 2007 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with Fayte on this one, but I do have a beautiful person in my life who has helped me become even more complete. How do I say this?

He has helped me heal so I may become whole again. He doesn't make me that way nor does he try to, but he sure has been a very healing presence in my life and I love him for it.


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alma_pisces
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posted September 07, 2007 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alma_pisces     Edit/Delete Message
NO

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fayte.m
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posted September 07, 2007 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I'm with Fayte on this one, but I do have a beautiful person in my life who has helped me become even more complete. How do I say this?

He has helped me heal so I may become whole again. He doesn't make me that way nor does he try to, but he sure has been a very healing presence in my life and I love him for it.


My feeling on you and him is you are both complete and were already whole as individuals when you met! But like when I met my beloved. I did not realize I was whole! I'd been a doormat and unassertive for too many decades. I found my whole self with his help!


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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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InLoveWithLife
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posted September 08, 2007 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
No.

I believe now that we meet many different people in the soul's progress. Some may be closer to our hearts than others....but there is no ONE perfect other half.

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 08, 2007 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
It is impossible to answer merely an YES or NO. For me though I may not believe in the other half, since I am whole, but there sure is some spiritual soul out there who can compliment my being in every way making me complete and balanced.

How do I know? I have met this person, and looking back and analyzing various aspects of our life - that is what it is - completely complimenting to my being and vice versa.

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RainbowDay
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posted September 08, 2007 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowDay     Edit/Delete Message
Both yes and no. We're not complete without eachother- but we're not what yo would call ONE SOUL. In a way. I think. This was hard.

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aquaspryt69
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posted September 08, 2007 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

I'd been a doormat and unassertive for too many decades. I found my whole self with his help!

Thank God above we are NOT doormats anymore!!

You know someone is right for you when you don't want to change a thing about them and love spending time with them even if you don't do or say a thing.

We like to make each other laugh and feel good about ourselves. I find myself searching for ways to make him laugh. I love the sound of his laughter. Oddly enough, this has a way of fulfilling me and making me feel at peace with myself and life.

I guess what I'm ranting about is this; when you meet a special someone, they don't complete you, they COMPLIMENT you. They enhance all of the good things about you.


Ok, rant over.


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fayte.m
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posted September 08, 2007 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Thank God above we are NOT doormats anymore!!
Defintely!!!!!!!!
quote:
You know someone is right for you when you don't want to change a thing about them and love spending time with them even if you don't do or say a thing.

We like to make each other laugh and feel good about ourselves. I find myself searching for ways to make him laugh. I love the sound of his laughter. Oddly enough, this has a way of fulfilling me and making me feel at peace with myself and life.

I guess what I'm ranting about is this; when you meet a special someone, they don't complete you, they COMPLIMENT you. They enhance all of the good things about you.


Yes! Its like coming home. It feels so right, so easy, no questions or doubts of is he the right one!
It was not so with my two ex-husbands. Nagging pervasive doubts with them, mistrust, desperate hope and them trying to mold me and control me, how to dress, who my friends were, of course chosen by them, blah blah blah.....
Not so when it is the right person!
When its right it just happens, things flow between us without effort, and love becomes deeper and richer with time!

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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ListensToTrees
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posted September 08, 2007 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe, but perhaps not in this lifetime.

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Azalaksh
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posted September 08, 2007 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Nope. I don't "believe" in Other Half's.
I am a whole spirit, and any other spirit I may meet is also a whole spirit.

Now, merging into One I can see.
But not some other puzzle piece that fits exactly into my puzzle piece

PS: alma-pisces, glad to see you're still here

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fayte.m
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posted September 08, 2007 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
ListensToTrees
quote:
Maybe, but perhaps not in this lifetime.
There is always a chance! I ended almost three combined decades in the relationships with my exes. My beloved of now was only a few months old when I became involved with ex#1. For all you know your perfect one is still a child, or not free at this time.
I was nearly 43 when my beloved one and I finally found each other. And in much worse physical condition than now. Yet he recognized me and I him.
I have known folks who did not find their perfect one until they had reached their 8th. or 9th. decades of life.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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alma_pisces
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posted September 08, 2007 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alma_pisces     Edit/Delete Message
thank you Azalaksh, my little temper tantrum is done with! he he.

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fayte.m
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posted September 08, 2007 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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Nope. I don't "believe" in Other Half's.
I am a whole spirit, and any other spirit I may meet is also a whole spirit.

Now, merging into One I can see.
But not some other puzzle piece that fits exactly into my puzzle piece


Zala You are definitely a whole person! Only another complete spirit is right for you! You as I, learned that the hard way!....The incomplete ones try to suck the life out of complete ones, they try to keep us from seeing we are complete because they need to control instead of share. But in some ways I feel most are complete but think they are not and look outside first for happiness instead of inside.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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NAM
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posted September 08, 2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, I will take that as close as my answer.
Those who said no because they are a whole soul, so to speak.You guys just don't want to feel "less,dependant or incomplete" by yourselfs, so this is why you say you are a whole not a half.But I think you still feel that without the other "special" one you are not complete...

It really is a game of words.
Let's analize this:

Fayte,SattvicMoon,Aquaspry69 wrote:
I am a complete whole but he compliments me

So, according to this thought there is always "one" person that will do this job, perhaps not a half soul but a whole soul as you guys already feel you are whole souls.
I can go as far as saying that you would not feel as passionate for anyone else as you feel for this one person, is this correct?
And, if you say you can be/feel as passionate for another person as you feel with this one then that means your partner can also have those feelings for someone else and that would be fair....correct?
So, this union is special but not uncommon you can very well leave this one partner and find another one that is going to "compliment" you as much as this one does...

Is this right?

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NAM
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posted September 08, 2007 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
oh, I love this! I really like to dig for the truth of everything, and I have been so caught on "love" between partners (marriage,etc) since last year and I am yet to find real answers.
People seek for it, then when they get it they don't work for it or they take it for granted and it is gone...It is amazing.
I usually ask people "what is love" and you would be so surprise how many people answer differently and how guys think different than girls.
Well... I think this is my next topic here.
Let's see what happens here.

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NAM
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posted September 08, 2007 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Please go to this link:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002902.html
To answer the what is love question.

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fayte.m
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posted September 08, 2007 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I love this line of inquiry!
I do not have time to reply at the moment but I will be back!

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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posted September 08, 2007 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message
Soulmate yes but other half no. I am unique, so is everybody.

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aquaspryt69
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posted September 09, 2007 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

But I think you still feel that without the other "special" one you are not complete...


Wrong!

He compliments my whole being as I compliment his whole being. We meet many of these people throughout our lives, at least I have, so we can and do leave them and find another Soul we connect with, grow and laugh with and learn from. I'm still complete/whole with or without him. He just makes life more fun, interesting and lovely.

My best friend of 35 yrs has this same effect on me. When we met I knew she was special to me even though we are totally different. I'm Scorp/Scorp/Pisces she's Leo/Libra/Gemini. Yeah,yeah I know all about the fixed/mutable connections. She tends to be the more emotional one, but then she doesn't have Scorpio "controlling" her as I do. "No way in hell am I going to let you see me afraid, cry, or sensitive!!" That girl just lets it all hang out! It's funny coz I am mixed about what I think and feel about her ability to wear her emotions on her sleeve like that. I admire her for it and find myself repulsed by it.

I hear my Scorp whispering harshly to me to hush up and quit giving all our "secrets" away. Wouldn't want anyone to think for a nanosecond that we're sensitive!!

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NAM
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posted September 09, 2007 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
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Wrong!

He compliments my whole being as I compliment his whole being. We meet many of these people throughout our lives, at least I have, so we can and do leave them and find another Soul we connect with, grow and laugh with and learn from. I'm still complete/whole with or without him. He just makes life more fun, interesting and lovely.

My best friend of 35 yrs has this same effect on me. When we met I knew she was special to me even though we are totally different. I'm Scorp/Scorp/Pisces she's Leo/Libra/Gemini. Yeah,yeah I know all about the fixed/mutable connections. She tends to be the more emotional one, but then she doesn't have Scorpio "controlling" her as I do. "No way in hell am I going to let you see me afraid, cry, or sensitive!!" That girl just lets it all hang out! It's funny coz I am mixed about what I think and feel about her ability to wear her emotions on her sleeve like that. I admire her for it and find myself repulsed by it.

I hear my Scorp whispering harshly to me to hush up and quit giving all our "secrets" away. Wouldn't want anyone to think for a nanosecond that we're sensitive!!




I like how you say "Wrong!"
I see you know yourself very well and you have your mind made up as far as what a soulmate/other half(whole) is to you, may I ask you a question....I am going to anyway

So... from your point of view and digging a little deeper into who we really are and how we love, you can actually say that you can feel the same intimately(sex) with each of your partners you have had, you have now and you will have in the future? There was nothing special about any of them or there was special things about all of them but all of them were the same in that level and nothing stood up from one of the other one?
You loved them all the same?
Intimately speaking...

I know this is a HUGE question and I understand if you would not want to answer here, but I would realy want to know what your answer is.
Now, are you a female or male? I am a bit confused.It doesn't matter in the end because I hope we are only talking relationships with "partners" only and not friends.
Correct?

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aquaspryt69
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posted September 09, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

may I ask you a question....I am going to anyway

I love honest and direct people!

I'm not saying they are not different people, or that there is nothing special. They are all special and unique and each has offered up something unique in our relationship. Do I love them all at the same level? Do I love and care for each with all my heart and soul? Yes! Even the drug addicted/alcoholic/physically and verbally abusive Saggie I was with for eight yrs will always have a place in my heart.

What I'm saying is I don't need to have someone else in my life to make me feel whole and complete. I tried that with drugs and alcohol. The only thing I need in my life is
God and He provides me with what I need.

I hope I answered your question.?

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