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ListensToTrees
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posted September 30, 2007 01:45 PM
 
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naiad
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posted September 30, 2007 02:13 PM
a spiritual perspective on multiple marriage partners ~The rational for this practice lies in the fact that Nazoreans do not marry the body, but the soul of another, Since Nazoreans have lived many lives on earth, they have also married many times during those various incarnations. Nazoreans do not marry another only until death, as the common modern marriage formula states: "until death do they part". Nazoreans seek to marry for eternity on a deep and enduring soul level. Granted, marriage may begin only on the physical level, but if it does not progress more deeply to encompass the Napsha, Ruha, and Nishinmta levels, it is considered a dead marriage by Nazoreans. If, however, a bond of love and unity develop between two souls on these deeper levels, it cannot be severed by demise of the flesh. It transcends death and continues into other lives. Since we have lived many lives and may have many souls mates as a consequence, our present incarnation may entail a reuniting with one or more of our former partners. If this happens then a deep knowing and familiarity may arise upon meeting such a one, or shortly thereafter. Ones former marriage partner may be in a different body, but their soul is the same. In light of this situation a person may be married to many others, on a deeper and more real soul level, even though they are not aware of such in their present incarnation. Their lack of knowledge does not negate the fact of their spiritual bond with another or others. Thus many may be polygamous without even knowing it. If these individuals are encountered in ones present life, and one abides within the Nazorean Covenant that acknowledges such situations, then it is not forbidden for one to acknowledge this fact. It is forbidden, however, to engage in physical intimacies with such a one without consent of ones present spouse. Marriage on a deeper soul level does not give one the right to be physical with them unless ones present physical mate, or mates, is in full support of such. If ones physical spouse okays the reunion of a long lost spouse, it cannot be adultery. This concept is explained in the Suddi revelations which say: "Adultery would be to lie with another and not openly with approval. If it were something that had been discussed between the two, and it was decided upon, then this would be acceptable. The whole idea of adultery was very strange. For did not Abraham have two wives? Therefore, if it was not accepted by Sarah that he have another wife, would he not also be an adulterer?" (Suddi Revelations) http://essenes.net/MORMON.HTM IP: Logged |
naiad
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posted September 30, 2007 02:19 PM
p.s. -- i myself am not yet at this level of enlightenment.  polygamy, in a spiritual sense, (not polygyny or ployandry) does make a certain kind of sense though, in light of reincarnation. mormons believe that they are married to their partners for all eternity, even beyond death. so this may be part of the esoteric knowledge that is misconstrued in the more mundane understanding of their doctrines.IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted September 30, 2007 03:29 PM
Naiad, I think what you put there makes a lot of sense. Most humans simply aren't beyond their insecurities, fears and selfishness to share their partner, however. The best thing is to express love in the best possible, and unselfish way that we can. And it is a lot less complicated to focus on one person.....I think most people are far too insecure to share. No matter how attractive they may be, etc etc.I always wanted to believe that we each have a Twin Flame, but even if this is true, I read (in Gooberz) that only a few highly evolved souls are with them; that they are much rarer than people think and most are soul mate unions. Some may have not incarnated at the same time....... Then again, perhaps all of these ideas are just a part of the illusion...... ------------------
It would be nice to evolve some sort of telepathy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself. IP: Logged |
zanya
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posted November 22, 2007 01:33 AM
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BlueRoamer
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posted November 22, 2007 01:02 PM
LOL Zanya......I"m glad I clicked on that....seems a little...IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted November 22, 2007 03:54 PM
I asked someone about what it says in the animation video about the idea people with a darker shade of skin than those with "white" skin were more neutral in deciding who they'd follow, God or Satan- and apparently this is B/S.I'm not defending the LDS Church, I just feel strongly it's not fair to put stuff out unless it's accurate.  ------------------
If only we could feel and understand all each others feelings....then EMPATHY and LOVE would be law in itself.
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maklhouf
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posted November 23, 2007 08:01 AM
Very good, clear vid. Why do the Mormons ban it?
Now I know why I've never met a black Mormon!------------------
The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
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zanya
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posted November 23, 2007 01:23 PM
 Eldridge Cleaver, founder of the Black Panthers, was baptized as an LDS Mormon and remained a member (though not always active) of the church until his death. 
speaking in a mormon service. IP: Logged |
zanya
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posted November 23, 2007 01:46 PM
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LOL Zanya......I"m glad I clicked on that....seems a little...
....steamy?? lol, i had to find that video on myspace to post here, as the youtube version is password restricted. IP: Logged |
maklhouf
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posted November 23, 2007 02:03 PM
Thanks Zanya, now I'm well confused!------------------
The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted November 24, 2007 01:01 AM
In 1978 The Mormon Church lifted the ban on preisthood for blacks
The founder of the Mormon faith in 1820, Joseph Smith not only allowed Blacks at it's meeting but ordained them as well. It was his successor, Brigham Young who placed the ban on Blacks from being allowed ordination, but not participation on a segregated basis.
That ban by Brigham Young was lifted in 1978.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon191.html Regarding polygamy that has not been a practice of the Mormon Church since 1890 In 1890, Wilford Woodruff issued a Manifesto that officially suspended the practice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
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I asked someone about what it says in the animation video about the idea people with a darker shade of skin than those with "white" skin were more neutral in deciding who they'd follow, God or Satan- and apparently this is B/S.
I'm not defending the LDS Church, I just feel strongly it's not fair to put stuff out unless it's accurate...LTT
Well said, LTT. 
I am not defending the Mormons either but I am glad that zanya posted the info about Eldridge Cleaver ( I did not know that) and so I am posting this info to support that yes, religions do change and not all that is put out on the internet or in books is accurate or truthful information regarding any religion. A lot of it is religious bigotry in fact, and as LTT said, unfair.
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ListensToTrees
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posted March 25, 2008 08:16 AM
I looked at that Mormon calendar link. Surprising. They are not my type though. They seem full of ego, which I find an instant turn-off in a man. IP: Logged |
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