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Topic: "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 05:01 PM
What do you think this truly means? IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 05:09 PM
See things clearly, Hear things clearly, Speak things clearly.See evil, but not with the evil eye; see murder, but dont see red. See evil, and understand it as such; for that is to see good. Hear evil, and interpret it as such, for that is to hear good. Speak no evil, but speak truthfully of evil, for that is to speak good. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 06:20 PM
Thank you. That is interesting.IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9384 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 07, 2007 06:39 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys I tend to take it in the modern tone: quote: Today "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" is commonly used to describe someone who doesn't want to be involved in a situation, or someone turning a willful blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are involved.
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 06:44 PM
Yeah, I read that too....that's another way of seeing it. Thanks fayte. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 07:14 PM
"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"(Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 07:33 PM
"Ears hear and eyes see, then what does mind do?" — Zen saying "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so." — William Shakespeare ------------------ "In the end one only experiences oneself." — Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:16 PM
quote: "If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" (Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
Hamlet: Look here, upon this picture, and on this; The counterfeit presentment of two brothers. See, what a grace was seated on this brow; Hyperion’s curls, the front of Jove himself, An eye like Mars, to threaten and command, A station like the herald Mercury New-lighted on a heaven-kissing hill, A combination and a form indeed, Where every god did seem to set his seal, To give the world assurance of a man. This was your husband: look you now, what follows. Here is your husband; like a mildew’d ear, Blasting his wholesome brother. Have you eyes? Could you on this fair mountain leave to feed, And batten on this moor? Ha! have you eyes? You cannot call it love, for at your age The hey-day in the blood is tame, it’s humble, And waits upon the judgment; and what judgment Would step from this to this? Sense, sure, you have, Else could you not have motion; but sure, that sense Is apoplex’d; for madness would not err, Nor sense to ecstasy was ne’er so thrall’d But it reserv’d some quantity of choice, To serve in such a difference. What devil was ’t That thus hath cozen’d you at hoodman-blind? Eyes without feeling, feeling without sight, Ears without hands or eyes, smelling sans all, Or but a sickly part of one true sense Could not so mope. O shame! where is thy blush? .... Queen: O! speak to me no more; These words like daggers enter in mine ears; No more, sweet Hamlet! Hamlet: A murderer, and a villain; A slave that is not twentieth part the tithe Of your precedent lord; a vice of kings; A cut-purse of the empire and the rule, That from a shelf the precious diadem stole, And put it in his pocket! ...
Queen: O Hamlet! thou hast cleft my heart in twain. Hamlet: O! throw away the worser part of it, And live the purer with the other half. Act 3, Scene 4
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:24 PM
------------------ "Even a good thing isn’t as good as nothing." — Zen saying "In the end one only experiences oneself." — Nietzsche IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:27 PM
"There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys. There's only you and me and we just disagree."
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:35 PM
North Node in Libra/South Node in Aries. A tendency to rely on the self so much as to alienate important others in our lives,... We are often afraid of the demands that a partner might put on us, and we don't naturally look for feedback, preferring to act on the moment—on our own hunches and impulses. But for however hard we push ourselves, our plans will be blocked until we stop to consider the other side. We tend to go it alone, often passing up opportunities for growth because we are too focused on our own personal survival. Our impulses and instincts are overloaded, lacking in perspective, and acting upon them will often bring us strife—that is, until we learn to look at the other side, perhaps through the eyes of another. Through partnership, and through cooperation with others, we will attain the inner balance necessary for us to achieve our goals. http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/northnodeinlibra.html IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:41 PM
"In the end one only experiences oneself." — Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:48 PM
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 08:58 PM
(thank you for making the image smaller )If it's the Captain's mess, let him clean it up. - Bugs Bunny
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 09:16 PM
...sounds like Bugs might have an Aries SN too... IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 09:33 PM
Congrats on the new job, agent26. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 09:37 PM
Bugs is my guru.
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26taurus Knowflake Posts: 12421 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 09:41 PM
Thanks. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1703 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 07, 2007 10:33 PM
Hi 26T. These are ideological statement created and sculpted by a great indian king who converted himself to buddhism. He thought creating sculptors, pillars etc is the best way to preserve buddhist teachings in stone. They are just ideologies, or guidelines. It only means be detatched from anything not beneficial to your soul evolution.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1703 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 07, 2007 11:23 PM
Gandhi was a great soul. I don't think he was enlightened. He borrowed the teaching from the king I think. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 07, 2007 11:38 PM
"Just think: if Adolph Hitler had been a cripple or had amoebas or was continuously getting hepatitis, the world would have been saved. In fact, Adolph Hitler was against smoking, against alcohol. He was a pure vegetarian like Mahatma Gandhi. In fact, both men have many things in common. Both believed in going early to bed and both believed in getting up early in the morning. Both believed that vegetarian food is great. Both believed that smoking is bad, alcohol is bad. Both were great saints. The only difference was that Mahatma Gandhi had the Jaina characteristic very much developed in him -- he was only ten percent Hindu, ninety percent Jaina -- so he tortured himself. Adolph Hitler had the Mohammedan characteristic developed in him: he tortured others, he didn't torture himself. But both tortured. Whom they tortured is not of that much significance. They both were enjoying torture. ... "- Osho (1980, Zen: Zest, Zip, Zap and Zing)
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9384 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 08, 2007 12:35 AM
If past lives are taken into account... what if Hitler acted as he did because it was his first opportunity to seek revenge? What if... He was from one or more of the peoples whom the ancient Jews murdered raped and pillaged? http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible3.htm
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5857 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 08, 2007 06:57 PM
Fayte,Yes, thats a possibility. But I'm not even convinced he was an anti-semite. I think he had other, more significant, motives. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9384 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 08, 2007 07:36 PM
HSC quote: But I'm not even convinced he was an anti-semite.I think he had other, more significant, motives.
I agree. I also highly suspect he was the figurehead but others were actually running the agendas.IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1703 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 08, 2007 07:57 PM
I think Adolf Hitler was like my Mother who refused to look after their own christian faith critically.
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