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indyBee
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posted March 19, 2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
i believe that there is no such thing as "right" and "wrong" way of things be cause a thing simply IS...there is no "right" and "wrong" except within the relative experience of our existence

does anyone agree or dis agree? go deeper into this subject?

thank you

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Mannu
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posted March 19, 2008 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah agreed.

Because we live in dualistic/Yin-yang world we can't comprehend that.

Man cannot evolve unless he recognises this.

And every one is awakening slowly to this reality.

Man's ego or knowledge of good/evil has also evolved over the years and interferes with man's awakening.

All religious writers has said this in metaphor beautifully. But fundamentalists and our abusive parents has taken those words literally and twisted it by their own fancies over the years.

I am so glad to see people like you posting such beautiful words


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neptune5
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posted March 19, 2008 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptune5     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
i believe that there is no such thing as "right" and "wrong" way of things be cause a thing simply IS...there is no "right" and "wrong" except within the relative experience of our existence
does anyone agree or dis agree? go deeper into this subject?

I agree, but I also think the non existance of right and wrong isn't definitive, because if you delibrately do something to harm yourself and someone else, in an ethical and/or moral sense, you've done something which the witness, person involved, and you (later on when you look back on it) would classify as wrong.

And also, the creation and/or use of nuclear weapons, its a weapon of mass destruction and is only used to destory, never to give life, so society would definitely classify that part of our reality as wrong, whether or not you experience it.

The development of your conscience is meant to make you aware of if an act is right or wrong without you experiencing it.

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 19, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I don't like the terms "right or wrong" either.

My beliefs are simple- all is connected, all is kin. Therefore to harm another is to harm yourself.

Thats all I feel we really need to know.

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angel_of_hope
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posted March 19, 2008 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
I believe, Right and Wrong is simply an opinion or a judgement of each individual if you will. There can be no definite RIGHT or WRONG ...

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thirteen
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posted March 19, 2008 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
And... in line with what "Listens" said... you have to respect the choice for harmful acts simply because we have that duality on this earth we live in, so the only way to make lasting change is to try to sway people to do the positive and the only way to do that is thru your own behavior. And of course by sending light to troubled places.

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Bad_Jelly
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posted March 21, 2008 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bad_Jelly     Edit/Delete Message
For myself, the Universe (My image of God) is dualist in every way, so right and wrong do exist, but these are very Human concepts that we have been given to help us get back to the source of all being.

For the Universe there is no right and wrong. When the Universe chooses to experience all of creation simultaneously, It excepts experiencing all of it, from it's darkest depths to its highest heights to add to the sum of its being.

I would even go so far to say that God will come to people in any form that a person can except, even if the person can only exept the Devil, God will take that form because that is the depth of God's love for us.

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indyBee
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posted March 21, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
thank you! Mannu

and thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts about my question

muaaahs and more muaaahs

one love
indy

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 21, 2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
indyBee, you are so sweet!

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indyBee
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posted March 22, 2008 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
thank you listenstotrees

hehe

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2008 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

From Khalil Gibran´s poem about GOOD and Evil

"And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and Evil."

And he answered:

Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.

For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?

Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.

You are good when you are one with yourself.

Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.

For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house.

And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink not to the bottom.

You are good when you strive to give of yourself.

Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself.

For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the earth and sucks at her breast.

Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full and ever giving of your abundance."

For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root.

You are good when you are fully awake in your speech,

Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without purpose.

And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue.

You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps.

Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping.

Even those who limp go not backward.

But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the lame, deeming it kindness.

You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not good,

You are only loitering and sluggard.

Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles.

In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that longing is in all of you.

But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the sea, carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest.

And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and bends and lingers before it reaches the shore.

But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore are you slow and halting?"

For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the houseless, "What has befallen your house?" "

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