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Topic: Love, hate, indifference
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 11, 2008 07:57 PM
Is it better to be hated than to be ignored?Is it better to make a mark on the world, positive or negative, than it is to fade into the mist like a wilted flower? Remember for nothing? Impacting no one? If we put our energy out strongly in the world, we will inevitably be both loved and hated, as we cannot control people's reactions. Now I"m not condoning become a Hilter as an alternative to suicide, but isn't it good to be noticed? IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 4884 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 11, 2008 08:04 PM
To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; No more; and by a sleep to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep; To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub; For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause: there's the respect That makes calamity of so long life; For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely, The pangs of despised love, the law's delay, The insolence of office and the spurns That patient merit of the unworthy takes, When he himself might his quietus make With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscover'd country from whose bourn No traveller returns, puzzles the will And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, And enterprises of great pith and moment With this regard their currents turn awry, And lose the name of action. - Soft you now! The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons Be all my sins remember'd.IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 4884 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 11, 2008 08:07 PM
I would I were a careless child, Still dwelling in my highland cave, Or roaming through the dusky wild, Or bounding o'er the dark blue wave; The cumbrous pomp of Saxon pride Accords not with the freeborn soul, Which loves the mountain's craggy side, And seeks the rocks where billows roll.Fortune! take back these cultured lands, Take back this name of splendid sound! (Edited) Place me among the rocks I love, Which sound to Ocean's wildest roar; I ask but this -- again to rove Through scenes my youth hath known before. Few are my years, and yet I feel The world was ne'er designed for me: Ah! why do dark'ning shades conceal The hour when man must cease to be? Once I beheld a splendid dream, A visionary scene of bliss: Truth! -- wherefore did thy hated beam Awake me to a world like this? I loved -- but those I loved are gone; Had friends -- my early friends are fled: How cheerless feels the heart alone When all its former hopes are dead! Though gay companions o'er the bowl Dispel awhile the sense of ill; Though pleasure stirs the maddening soul, The heart -- the heart -- is lonely still. How dull! to hear the voice of those Whom rank or chance, whom wealth or power, Have made, though neither friends nor foes, Associates of the festive hour. Give me again a faithful few, In years and feelings still the same, And I will fly the midnight crew, Where boist'rous joy is but a name. And woman, lovely woman! thou, My hope, my comforter, my all! How cold must be my bosom now, When e'en thy smiles begin to pall! Without a sigh I would resign This busy scene of splendid woe, To make that calm contentment mine, Which virtue knows, or seems to know. Fain would I fly the haunts of men-- I seek to shun, not hate mankind; My breast requires the sullen glen, Whose gloom may suit a darken'd mind. Oh! that to me the wings were given Which bear the turtle to her nest! Then would I cleave the vault of heaven, To flee away and be at rest. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 11, 2008 09:16 PM
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 12428 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted May 11, 2008 10:45 PM
quote: Now I"m not condoning become a Hilter as an alternative to suicide, but isn't it good to be noticed?
I don't think so overall. There are a lot of killers and bad people who will only be remembered for such, and I don't see that as more valuable than merely being obscure to most. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 11, 2008 11:28 PM
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 12, 2008 01:14 AM
O RLY?IP: Logged |
NosiS Moderator Posts: 1086 From: ) Registered: Apr 2004
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posted May 12, 2008 01:17 AM
What is a Hilter? IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 12, 2008 01:19 AM
No, BR. I was O NLY joking.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 12, 2008 02:11 AM
A hitler resides in a log cabinAs I thought 26T IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 12, 2008 08:08 AM
personally, I can't stand mediocrity. I would rather a person stand out for something than to just blend with the background.We all have talents or vices, skills to make us shine in some form or another, so to be mediocre is to stifle your god given gifts of individuality. I say, shine in whatever manner you wish. Don't rob the world of your goodness. You were born for a reason, and you don't have to be a mega star but even in your community, make some sort of contribution based on your skills. Let people know themselves relative to who you are, meaning, some people may react by saying: I don't want to be like that, while some say, I would love to be like that. Whatever the reaction, being yourself and letting it shine teaches and helps people know themselves better. My mom is not famous, but every person knows her as kind. That is how she stands out in our neighbourhood. Some people are funny, or sarcastic, or whatever. Be you and be proud of it and let it show because you will inspire someone else to fear less of being themselves. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 12, 2008 08:14 AM
Also, I am grateful to Hitler because he showed me how I don't want to be without having to experience it. He did me a service by giving me a point of reference as to what I am NOT.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 12428 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted May 12, 2008 11:18 AM
26t, where'd your post go? I don't remember there being anything offensive about it.Unmoved, nice post! Shine on! IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 12, 2008 02:52 PM
Hi AG. No, there was nothing offensive about it and it took me a while to write out. I deleted it though. It was my way of saying; nevermind, just ignore me, I dont know anything. Dont know how to write, and am just a stupid simpleton. O RLY? Yes, really. No big deal. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 12428 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted May 12, 2008 04:06 PM
I'd rather have you not ignored. IP: Logged |
TINK Knowflake Posts: 3980 From: New England Registered: Mar 2003
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posted May 12, 2008 07:32 PM
I saw it. Nothing offensive that I could tell. In fact, it made perfect sense to me. But what the hell do I know? I'm a simpleton too. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 12, 2008 07:45 PM
lol& Thank you AG. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 12, 2008 08:29 PM
quote: It was my way of saying; nevermind, just ignore me, I dont know anything. Dont know how to write, and am just a stupid simpleton.
O RLY? IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 12, 2008 11:57 PM
I'm just teasin ya Taurus.I read your post, enjoyed what you wrote, but I'm very busy with exams and other stuff and haven't had time to type out a thoughtful response. I definitely noticed when you pointed out how I leave flippant responses or don't respond at all. This is simply my nature so please don't take it personally. I've butted heads with a couple Taurses on this exact issue before, I am just flighty and my attention wanders. I am spread between a lot of projects and a lot of websites, but I appreciated what you wrote and am now sad it is gone! IP: Logged |
NosiS Moderator Posts: 1086 From: ) Registered: Apr 2004
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posted May 13, 2008 12:11 AM
So much for "real discussions"! IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 13, 2008 12:13 AM
No biggies. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 13, 2008 12:20 AM
Saying O RLY pretty much nullifies any chance at discussion but I can't help but find it funny.Imagine pouring your heart out to someone in a really deep way for about 10 minutes, and then all they say is "O REALLY!!!??" and walk away. I guess this is my sick idea of comedy. IP: Logged |
NosiS Moderator Posts: 1086 From: ) Registered: Apr 2004
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posted May 13, 2008 12:31 AM
You are pretty much a Monty Python member.IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14014 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 13, 2008 12:34 AM
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4366 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 16, 2008 09:45 PM
O RLY Nosis?IP: Logged |