posted January 19, 2009 07:50 AM         

It continues to amaze me how you never cease to grow. I have spits and spurts, where you seem to have gushes

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Yes, but, a subtle mind will percieve flaws in his own understanding which another person would not.
So, we think as much as we need to in order to comprehend this world as deeply as we can,
in accordance with the subtlety of our intellects, and the extent of our desire for deeper understanding.

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I'm not so sure about what you mean by subtle mind, but it's interesting to me that you say this person sees things in themselves more than others, but what if the other was also a subtle mind? Could they see more? I think I understand your drive to delve deep into understanding, but I have to disagree with this statement on principle - I try not to fall down the rabbit hole to far - I like to know where the sun is at all times. For this reason (and others) I am staying well clear of World of Warcraft :P So yes, I guess what your saying is actually very true (after a re-read). My extent is shallow, but if I still didn't delve as deep as I could in my shallow mind, I would feel unfulfilled and would never grow. And if you don't grow, you shrivel. However, maybe the shallower the mind, the less people need to try? They are amazed at the smallest things like a story or ant or sports. My point is, like you say, the extent of a mind limits the depth one delves and perhaps the tendency to think or analyze themselves. Is the subtlety thing the capacity for analysis?

posted January 19, 2009 11:59 AM         

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It continues to amaze me how you never cease to grow. I have spits and spurts, where you seem to have gushes.

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And yet, I still live with my parents.

You are kind, Dean.

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Is the subtlety thing the capacity for analysis?

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I think, to some extent, it is.

posted January 19, 2009 12:04 PM         

So continuous is this questioning,
that I cannot articulate my questions
without falling into deeper questions.

How can I live in the world,
where questions are eyed with mistrust;
where answers roll off every tongue,
and, on all sides, I am confronted
with some convenient expectation?

I cannot speak, move, or live in that world
without feeling like a liar among liars,
in a world made of lies.

posted January 20, 2009 11:03 AM         

It is true in the sense that mind can never know Existence in its totality. It can only influence your perception of it.
Your reality is more beautiful and joyous than your thoughts. Thoughts flows outwards. They are single directional.

posted January 21, 2009 10:03 PM         

You know, I think your thinking and the depths of thought comes from your ascendants ruler being in virgo and the 8th.

Nietzsche's 8th house is(in placidus)also connected to the 1st. Like you said he was complex. Even with the whole house system his 1st is connected to 8th, by scorpio.

This connection of 1 and 8 gives an intensity, a need to master the self through struggling and probing every crevice of the human experience.And virgo is analyzer par excellence. That you can articulate this exploration so well is probably a bit unnerving to those around you. It is likely hard enough for someone to have this placement.But for those who don't, it can be a bit threatening to see someone getting behind that veil of our world. Ignorance is a bliss most don't want to give up. Hence "you think to much" can be translated into "you're disturbing by ignorance and I can't handle it."

posted January 21, 2009 10:13 PM         

(of course it could be just my reality and my ego....)

posted January 22, 2009 12:19 AM         

Pluto also squares my Ascendant..
Nietzsche's Ascendant was Scorpio,
and he had Pluto in Aries (op Sun).

Three more 1 and 8 connections there.