posted January 11, 2009 01:39 AM         

Personally, I like to think deep thoughts; no, not deep just because the subjects are profound, but, deep in the sense that I delve into the conceptual subtleties of those profound subjects. This is how I look for God. Maybe others dont find God in these complicated places, but I do. I can. There are other ways, more accessible to other people, and less accessible to me. I respect them. But most people need to think their way is the only way, and the ways of others are false or incomplete. Their subjectivity is so ingrained, they never even suspect it.

posted January 11, 2009 05:05 AM         

now i grew up and i think i start to see where they are coming from. what they meant was that i used my brain to philosophise when another attitude was needed. cause for someone who thought too much, or just enough in my view, i actually made a few big mistakes that could have ben avoided with a bit of reflexion. so where was my thinking aimed at, what was the purpose for my thinking. i cant say it was to find god because that is not true for me. nope, i think it was to avoid facing unpleasant truth in the reality.

posted January 11, 2009 09:19 PM         

Up to you... I'm still wrestling with that turd!

posted January 11, 2009 09:44 PM         

Among other things.

posted January 11, 2009 10:25 PM         

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Did you know you had such a sense of humor in addition to your depth?

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posted January 12, 2009 10:29 AM         

and my kids, how do you know that mom? I tell them, becasue when you are sleeping, I am thinking.

airefairy - I think about everything, my mind never wants to shut off, I wonder if food banks have enough canned goods, I wonder if my boss is mad about this or that, I pray that my kids are safe and making good choices, I wonder if my soon to be step son picked up his coke cans all over the basement, I wonder if my heat bill will be over 300 bucks, I think stuff through to conclusions, I rewind my day and wish I had reacted sometimes in a different way to this or that situation, I worry about things, I try to redirect my thoughts a lot and be more positive, my mind never wants to shut down. I wonder if all of the deers have enough food when it is below zero and the snow has covered all of the fields. stuff like that. constant.

posted January 12, 2009 01:46 PM         

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i heard somewhere thinking burns up all the glucose in the ol noggin

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I suppose it's a trade-off.

posted January 14, 2009 04:11 PM         

But I also think that, in many cases, it may just be conditioning. The Judeo-Christian legacy discourages independent thinking, and there are lots of impressionable (and relatively unconscious) people who have no idea that many, if not all, of their views are just the flotsam and jetsam of history. The only views that really count are the ones that have been weighed by the individual.. and if one has neither doubted a certain perspective, or arrived at it through following his/her own train of thought, then I don't see how one can really call it "their" perspective.

posted January 15, 2009 02:17 PM         

I don't think discomfort proves anything against the thinker or the thought.

The most important revelations are disillusioning and painful at first.

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain." ~ C.G. Jung

No pain, no gain. No sacrifice, no Christ.

posted January 17, 2009 07:39 AM         

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted January 17, 2009 11:06 AM         

Here in our country, people advice against thinking too much explaining it leads to stress. Of course it does for them. That is why they won't think at all.

posted January 17, 2009 01:24 PM         

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The person saying too much may be limited and is trying to limit you.

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I especially liked this.

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I think you think as much as you need to comprehend this world. Maybe they do to.

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Yes, but, a subtle mind will percieve flaws in his own understanding which another person would not.
So, we think as much as we need to in order to comprehend this world as deeply as we can,
in accordance with the subtlety of our intellects, and the extent of our desire for deeper understanding.

posted January 17, 2009 01:33 PM         

According to the Whole House chart system,
used by the Ancient Greek and Roman astrologers,
and still in use among Vedic and many Western astrologers today,
I have Mercury (also Mars and Neptune) in the 12th house.
Mercury is conjunct Mars in Sag and both are trining the depositor;
which is, I am told, a very excellent aspect for any planet(s) to make.

The 12th house is an area of experience that is very difficult for most people to conceptualize,
and Mercury there is said to be a wonderful placement, giving an extremely refined and subtle mind.

While other planets merge and lose themselves, Mercury brings clarity into the most ambiguous places.

Hermes (mercury), the translator, is, according to at least one tradition I am familiar with,
the only God who was able to make it back from the underworld unscathed.