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LEXX
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posted January 21, 2009 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Additionally Mannu....
what are your feelings concerning pearls?
Or people who do not shake hands?

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Mannu
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posted January 21, 2009 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh mine. I can see how people get affended when their heros are attacked.
Some people go on demythifying Jesus but has not done enough work on men a level below him ...hehehehe

>>>Oh yeah..but without AC and other things Tesla brought to us...we could still be living by gaslight and horses for transportation. Mankind has progressed because of men like Tesla.

You missed what I said earlier -- If not Tesla then someone else. Someone was bound to discover AC. The whole war was about Edison insisting DC (direct current) be the defactor standard of electric power distribution as opposed to Tesla who said it should be AC. DC would have been more expensive and impractical over long distance. Today we use combinations of both. AC as power lines and DC for personal computers. Like I said many here are superstitious bums. The quality required to analyse any scientists work is so missing in those bums. I remember years ago when they sent the first pictures of Mars these same people believed there are Green men on earth. Jeez.


>>>Shame on you
Up yours. i am free to opine anything on anyone I wish. How do you know I do not respect Tesla? He was brilliant no doubt - but he lacked managerial skills.
Not a total man.


>>>Just as I surmised...you barely know anything about him.
And you love him of your own ignorance.

>>>You have given no valid reason for that judgment of him.
Maybe you were one of Edison's buddies in a past life?

Thats a lame argument. No comments. I am tired of giberrish by quite a few people here already. Gee , people never change.

>>>>Maybe men who were/are seriously dedicated to their creative passions,
and celibate men are revolting to you too

You suffer from poor memory. I raved about Tesla's star sign and his guru Vivekananda, an
Indian mystic (not enlightened) in GU a year ago.

>>>>because...Maybe you were one of the "ladies" he rejected "romantically/sexually? Or even a "man

I don't know what to call such arguments that spills all over the place hahaha..

>>>what are your feelings concerning pearls?
Rare and beautiful.

Or people who do not shake hands?

If you are referring to Bush?
urban haute bourgeois


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LEXX
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posted January 21, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am delighted! Some of your answers are what I was looking for. Thanks so very much for confirming a few things!(especially the pearls bit)
As to loving Tesla out of my ignorance?
Far far very far from that I can wholeheartedly assure you.
As to not having good managerial skills...
Sadly sadly too true. His only failing.
However that did not make him less of a man as you say.
He simply needed a manager.

LOL!
Bush?
Where did that come from?

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LEXX
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posted January 21, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS.I do wish you would post in either quotes.
or Mannu said....Lexx said,. because your last post was confusing as to who said what unless people reference previous posts.
All you need do is put this [ ]around the word quote.....before
a quote....
and this after a quote...[/quote]

PS..I do not visit GU anymore. Your memory must be poor not mine.

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posted January 21, 2009 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mannu said:
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Today we use combinations of both. AC as power lines and DC for personal computers.
LOL! Such a simplistic incomplete summation.
And...
it is AC which you use to recharge that DC in your computer!

Additionally...if Tesla had his way...there would be no ugly and dangerous power lines but transmitted wireless power.

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posted January 22, 2009 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard heard that the older a person gets the more cocky he/she is.

I don't think you understand electricity inspite of the brief explanation above.

It could have been DC + DC if Edison won and persisted. But it was too impractical. Hence the engineers chose AC + DC.


No brainer that was.

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posted January 22, 2009 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If people cannot remember their own words then God bless them


you said "...if Tesla had his way"

But he didn't. Stop philosophising.

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posted January 22, 2009 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL!
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I don't think you understand electricity inspite of the brief explanation above.

I began "playing" with electricity and so forth at about age 7.
I have done house and industrial electrical work.
I have rebuilt and repaired many kinds of electrical devices and motors.
And the list goes on.
One of my main interests before becoming disabled.
In fact it still is.

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posted January 22, 2009 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe, have just read the posts... i didnt realise my talk of Tesla would set of such sparks. Mannu:-

Tesla is not made out here to be a perfect deity by any means, he was simply a man, , yet, he was a channel for divine power, the same essence of which can be seen and heard in the gifted among our race... Leonardo, Vivaldi, Tchaickovsy....to name but a few. Tesla's vision lay in the nature of Energy, his ego concerned with the self love and confidence to forsee what was necessary for his existence. DC AC doesn't really come into it, that just seperates Tesla's from the short-sightendness of Edison, yet who was a true a scientist also within his own rights...but a scientist through and through he remains.

And...Tesla remains a man, who lived a life in pursuit of a vision; into the true nature of things.


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posted January 22, 2009 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
: our unsung hero :

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VinayM19
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posted January 22, 2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VinayM19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ariefairy

Well it definitely seems like you have created spark in this thread, no doubt , obiviously when you have the thread after Electrical Scientist what you expect

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posted January 22, 2009 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ariefairy,

Did you watch the movie "The Prestige"?

I loved it absolutely.

It has Tesla's character in that movie.

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posted January 22, 2009 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The movie is a fantasy mostly.
However yes.....
David Bowie did an excellent portrayal of the eccentric, intelligent, ethical, reclusive, and dignified, gentlemanly, fashionably attired, Nikola Tesla!

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posted January 22, 2009 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002675.html

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posted January 23, 2009 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, i have heard of it though and would like to see ... ou, i also saw these links put on by someone in LindaLand (under ‘cool tesla videos’)... Tesla orientated, and worth sparing 30 – 40 minutes on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTiiblwwLPk&mode=related&search= part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfWbEiTLII&mode=related&search= part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgkeP0CappU&mode=related&search= part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExTqblIH_8&NR=1 = part 4

and thanks LEXX for your pictures throughout the conversation (would put a thumbs up sign here or star or something but i dont know how...eeep)

and Vinay too for all your input.... cheers everyone


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posted January 23, 2009 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and, of the last part of the article...it focuses on how the soviets developed a 'death ray', its a bit depressing, and if Tesla knew what people were doing with some of his ideas he'd be pretty upset methinks....he wanted to help! but it is in mankind's nature to go at war with his with his brother. But, a sub-section of the article will adequately surmise my Tesla story...

** AN ELECTRIFYING IDEA ***


"The 'World System' envisaged by Tesla would, according to him, would have made possible 'not only the instantaneous and precise wireless transmission of any kind of signals, messages or characters, to all parts of the world, but also the interconnection of the existing telegraph, telephone, and other signal stations without any change in their present equipment'. The radio signals would have been 'non-interfering as well as non-interferable... There is virtually no limit to the number of stations or instruments that can be simultaneously operated without the slightest mutual disturbance.' Tesla described numerous applications. They included the worldwide distribution of news by radio telegraph or radio telephone and the interconnection of the worlds stock market tickertape machines. Clocks of cheap, simple construction would be synchronized anywhere in the world by the system without requiring attention.

('The idea of impressing upon the earth American time is fascinating', said Tesla, 'and very likely to become popular.') Facsimile transmission of documents would have been possible. A 'universal marine service' would enable ships to steer without compasses. Tesla promised that 'when the first plant is inaugurated, ...humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick...' The varied means of communication that he foresaw all exist today, and are become more widely integrated - but on a principle quite different from Tesla's: by relay from satellites in orbit."

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posted January 23, 2009 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i didnt realise Tesla also base his 'philosophy' on Buddhist teachings..he never ceases to amaze me . his understanding of energy * : spiritual : *

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posted January 23, 2009 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
* based * typo

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posted January 24, 2009 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VinayM19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ariefairy

Hi fellow Tesla fan how are you? how's your life going there?

Hey you should see movie called "The Prestige", i have seen it many times and it's a perfect movie you get to see and it has a Tesla role too.Directed by Christopher Nolan.

Well the posting on Tesla are good, thanks for the post.
Hey as you are through with Tesla life just wanted to know whats your view on what was said by some that he was from different planet.

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posted January 25, 2009 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, its fantasy movie as Lexx said, but the author or whoever wrote that must be a genius as he came very close to reality. When my guru described the enlightenment process , immediately a scene from this movie came to my mind. Well not saying much for now.

I love it when people makes such movies.
The Prestige, Matrix, Xmen, what the bleep etcc etc ...

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posted January 25, 2009 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, its fantasy movie as Lexx said, but the author or whoever wrote that must be a genius as he came very close to reality.
I feel the same.
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When my guru described the enlightenment process , immediately a scene from this movie came to my mind. Well not saying much for now.
I will not comment further on what I have "picked up" either. But I think I know what you mean.
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I love it when people makes such movies.
The Prestige, Matrix, Xmen, what the bleep etcc etc ...
Yes yes yes to all those except for wtb which was rather annoying to me.

Another movie with intense food for thought!
The Man From Earth

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posted January 25, 2009 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Vinay ☺ im good thanks, again its great to have a fellow Tesla fan (and Lexx too), I find him inspiring!…my life is going well thankyou…how about you? I am very curious about the Prestige now…

My view on that is that I think that could be very possible that he was from ‘another planet, in that, another dimension perhaps…he was definitely influenced by higher spiritual powers…his thoughts were ‘beyond’ the comprehension of his time,. ☺


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Mannu: When my guru described the enlightenment process , immediately a scene from this movie came to my mind. Well not saying much for now.

LEXX: I will not comment further on what I have "picked up" either. But I think I know what you mean.

… how wonderful! I am going to watch the movie…and pick up on this point with you guys soon, as I doubt you will say anything about it at the moment??

I looked at the info for ‘The Man On Earth’ , it looks fascinating…im really intrigued!!
Ahh, i love the Matrix. Does anyone like the Russian cinema; Nightwatch/Daywatch films?

Lexx, howcome what the bleep annoyed you? If you don’t mind me asking ☺

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posted January 25, 2009 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Man **From Earth sorry !

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posted January 26, 2009 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to sound like enlightenment is so special. The most ordinary man /woman can become one. The more knowledge you have the more difficult it is to become enlightened I think. Because one may be influenced by the rubbish of those scholarly books. An innocent mind is required. Its right there in the movie, but few catch it. Any ways no more spoilers.


Ariefairy, I loved WTB because it tried to narrate reality that quantum mechanics breakthru implies and the narratives were well prepared. The relation of chemical harmones interacting with light to produce what we actually perceive was also brilliant. It was also the first movie that created a chain of movies to appear based on similar theme. Ofcourse most of it , while true also had danger of misleading people who get addicted easily to power and money.

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posted January 26, 2009 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alpha trion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tesla was truly a far sighted inspired genius. Edison and he had two different approaches. Edison was more like a tinkerer no wonder he said success is 99% hard work and 1% inspiration. IN Tesla's case it was at least 75-95% inspiration. He was revolutionary in his thinking. Electricity was just a tiny part of his research.

Having played with motors and electronics from around age 6-7 and electronics from age 12, i went on to study Industrial electronic engineering. I have now over18 years experience on these topics. Unlike most here with few exceptions i have studied electric systems, motors, transmission lines, electronics etc. After all this i must say Edison was nowhere close to the genius of Tesla. Sure he too did achieve a lot and we are grateful to him for that, but were it not for Tesla, we'd be a lot more behind technologically today. He single handedly designed the electrical generation and transmission equipment. Nobody has rivalled such a feat. His discoveries are still used mostly unchanged today.
Were it not for Tesla, perhaps we'd be using AC for transmission of electricity today, but we'd need several inventors and many more years to achieve what he did in a short time.
He himself claimed that he got the designs through inspiration.

He was a more humanitarian inventor like Bose who like him wasn't commercially minded unlike most other inventors of his time. Both were geniuses far ahead of their time.

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