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Ariefairy
posted January 14, 2009 03:40 PM

I would really like to talk about Atlantis....i invite a discussion on the matter....it concerns me somewhat that this is portrayed as a place of myth....a story. it's not. there is so much more to it....i haven't gone to seek its secrets, they have found their way to me....the universal energies that be help to connect all the dots....so my question to begin with, is, do YOU personally think Atlantis is a myth, and WHY you think this..?

i will share a personal view, i've never discussed any of these beliefs with anyone before...but i have been re-reading my chart, and something calls from within..

i feel , the way unifying the world is to give its people , especially the ones so blinded that they cannot see the bars before their very eyes, a chance to take the power of their life back, to give awareness of the soul. we are heading towards dangerous times, i think people have the right to know about the truth, a right to the chance to walk free of the overshadowing eye. i've thought about it, and Atlantis holds the key...

...your thoughts...

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koiflower
posted January 14, 2009 08:11 PM
I look forward to this discussion! I know very little about Atlantis.

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Chryseis
posted January 14, 2009 11:16 PM
Hi Airiefairy, Koiflower,

I reckon Atlantis is that place in South America, from history.

A bloke from the mid 19thC, Ignatius Donnelly tried to put forward this theory but it has never been recognised by mainstream scholars as the fabled Atlantis from Greek Mythology.

The island was situated in the middle of Lake Texcoco and the city-state built on it was called Tenochtitlan. It was built by the Mexica people, formerly Aztecs, formerly Azteca, formerly Nahua people, and an associated place called 'Aztlan' is considered the ancestral home of the Nahua people.

The Nahua people fled from an area where they had been living in caves and oppressed by an elite class to 'Aztlan'. They migrated to fulfill an ancient prophecy about building this city in the lake, Aztlan may have been on the mainland somewhere near the lake. The people built the city and called it Tenochtitlan, and it became the capital of the Aztec civilisation in pre-columbian Mexico.

The city was highly organized, there was zoos, aquariums, highly specialised social order, latrines and fresh water to peoples homes, and a highly prosperous commercial trade with far away places. Around the cities was an elaborate network of dikes, canals, bridges and causeways between the island and the mainland. The area was in the valley of Mexico. Eventually the city island of Tenochtitlan was destroyed by a flood. It was then rebuilt.

Yeah, I reckon Ignatius Donnely is right. I found this stuff in Wikipedia today, but I saw a children's program on this ancient city a while ago and thought of Atlantis at the time. I couldn't remember the city's name today so had to search ancient sth amercican cities until I found Aztlan and Tenochtitlan and my memory was jogged.

Fascinating stuff, I hope this might be a lead for you even if for interest's sake only.

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Ariefairy
posted January 15, 2009 09:17 AM
thankyou for the lead, i haven't heard of him, i will look into it... but you are on the right tracks....following the non mainstream scholars, they are the ones that need to be heard.

The theory i have been following is that Atlantis was a Global continent, not just a small section of the earth...im pretty sure it could have pre-dated Aztec civilisation but it certainly influenced it...the information that survived from Atlantean culture was passed on by its survivors...the continents have shifted and broken over time, but similar artefacts and information have been found in 'random' places all over the world: suggesting that the continents were as one at some point...the roots lie in sumerian and babylonian history. Referring back to the Aztec culture...it has been noted that the monuments outside temples and pyramids show figures holding what looks like tools ( a bit space age) it is suggested that there were devices around that enabled people to cut rock and stone with the efficiency of modern day technology, if not better! This is also what has been suggested in the building of pyramids, with devices that allowed perfect precision, a feat of which amazes modern day scientists and engineers, yet history is depicted in the mainstream way of thinking.

The Atlantean society appears to have had superior knowledge and culture, of which i personally believe was passed on by multidimensional beings, with an awareness of the grand properties of certain minerals/rocks...i.e...diamonds. gold. (monotonic gold...)

All the 'sacred' sights dotted around the earth on ley lines and areas of sacred energy (i.e stone henge) are believed by Non mainstream scholars to be a kind of mapping system set in motion by enlightened beings...in order to monitor throughout time the earths shifting and natural cycles. Depicted in the mayan calendar (of which i feel was 'passed down' information), which notes the earths Great Cycle (catacylsms and a general shift of the earths balance)...of which the next one due is 2012...and Atlantis was said to have suffered at one of the Great Cycles.

In short, according to the massive shift of areas..the remains of Atlantis are believed to be situated under Antarctica...of which was not its original position.

i always wonder the history of words, how they became to be....and it has always struck me aswell how the term 'Atlas' came to be.....surely from the worlds original state....'Atlantis'?

A little lexigramming never hurt.....

ATLAS IS ATLANTIS
ATLANTIS IS ATLAS

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Chryseis
posted January 15, 2009 02:02 PM
Hi Airiefairy,

Funny you should mention that, as I read that within my search. 'Atlas' was used connected with another ancient city in sth America that I read about. It may have been connected to the stuff above but I can't remember it. Atlas referred to huge stone statues/pillars, I think they were. Can't remember the details. Yeah, I thought the same.

Something that made me think that this culture had world wide links was that they had apparently far reaching trade links. Seems hard to believe but they were pretty efficient and progressive in many areas.

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posted March 04, 2009 01:02 PM           

Actually, I have done a quick search and added a couple:

this was my site, heh some of my memory of it was a bit off the mark, lol http://dailysmalltalk.blogspot.com/2008/01/10-fun-facts-about-nikola-tesla.html

here is another, http://www.symbolinterface.com/2009/02/four-interesting-facts-about-nikola.html

posted March 05, 2009 12:31 PM         

but he teaches remote viewing and the timing couldn't be better as after communications go down it will be our psychics, remote viewers and telepaths who keep us in touch with each other, sources of water /food/ etc...

posted March 09, 2009 06:03 PM           

Sun conjunct Uranus (3')
Venus conjunct Uranus (1')
Midheaven Conjunct Uranus (0')
(Uranus is also the Apex of a Yod)
Moon at 0' Aquarius (1st house)
Aquarius Intercepted in the 1st house
Sun Parallel Uranus
Moon Parallel Uranus

posted March 09, 2009 10:51 PM           

No offense, but, why the drama? Why the suspense?

Why not just say what you have to say, for Christ's sake?

My views are usually at variance with the majority.

But I've never let that excuse me from sharing them.

Nor do I require an engraved invitation to say my peace. As you can see.

Don't look for a crowd to gather before saying what you are here to say, LEXX.

Just start talking, and, God willing, if its any good, people will come.

"Against criticism a man can neither protest nor defend himself;
he must act in spite of it, and then it will gradually yield to him.”
~ Goethe

"There is no agony like bearing an untold story inside of you."
~ Zora Neale Hurston

"You may force me to say what you wish; you may revile me for saying what I do. But it moves."
~ Galileo

"Orthodoxy means not thinking — not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."
~ George Orwell

"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign;
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
~ Jonathan Swift

“Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.”
~ Arthur Schopenhauer

"Rise up naked, valiant; make the sheaths crack; push aside the stakes;
to grow straight you need no more than the thrust of your sap and the call of the sun."
~ Andre Gide

"Spite of all, do you still chafe and complain, not understanding that, in all the evils to which you refer, there is really only one -- the fact that you do chafe and complain? If you ask me, I think that for a man there is no misery unless there be something in the universe which he thinks miserable. I shall not endure myself on that day when I find anything unendurable... I am ill; but that is a part of my lot. My slaves have fallen sick, my income has gone off, my house is rickety, I have been assailed by losses, accidents, toil, and fear; this is a common thing. Nay, that is an understatement; it was an inevitable thing. Such affairs come by order, and not by accident... I shall pay all my taxes willingly. Now all the things which cause us to groan or recoil are part of the tax of life -- things, my dear Lucilius, which you should never hope and never seek to escape... Come, did you not know, when you prayed for long life, that this is what you were praying for? A long life includes all these troubles, just as a long journey includes dust and mud and rain. 'But,' you cry, 'I wished to live, and at the same time to be immune from all ills.' Such a womanish cry does no credit to a man."
~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca

posted March 09, 2009 11:07 PM         

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LEXX,

No offense, but, why the drama? Why the suspense?
Why not just say what you have to say, for Christ's sake?

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My views are usually at variance with the new age majority,
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"When a man contradicts me he arouses my attention, not my anger.
It is enough for me that he address his response to the subject of my inquiry.
Agreement is utterly boring." ~ Michel de Montaigne

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posted March 09, 2009 11:12 PM         

Please share your thoughts on the topics related to this thread with us as long as you have something on your mind, regardless of whether it fits the vast majority's way of thinking or unique. I think it is exactly because your views are unique, that's why they deserve being heard.

I don't consider myself a New Ager.

The end of the old realm is the beginning of the new one. The global community does not resemble Atlantis. Destruction of the old brings the birth of the new. The new realm is beyond the imagination of humankind.

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Nor do I require an engraved invitation to say my peace. As you can see.

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Don't look for a crowd to gather before saying what you are here to say, LEXX.

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posted March 09, 2009 11:17 PM           

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Let others play guru here, and quote every new age self proclaimed guru or writer, who is also copying others doing the same.
I am not interested in following suit. Sorry that offends you.

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You are funny.

But its a strawman irony.

I'm not asking you to quote new age gurus.

I'm asking you to say what you have to say.

See the difference?

But if you have good reasons for your silence, that is fine.

I just think that fear of disagreement, or judgment, is an excuse, not a reason.

If it is judgement you fear, then allow me to judge you for that, lol.

And to encourage you to be brave, and to let your freak flag fly.

Or are you afraid to subject your views to the scrutiny that will follow?

You are not obligated to explain it all or convince anyone.

Just say as much as you want to say. Or don't.

Whatever. It makes no difference to me.

I just hate to think that you would censor yourself, on account of what others might think.

What I like best about you, LEXX, is that you are a true original.

Just be yourself. Who cares if they "get it"?

posted March 09, 2009 11:39 PM         

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Please share your thoughts on the topics related to this thread with us as long as you have something on your mind, regardless of whether it fits the vast majority's way of thinking or unique.

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I think it is exactly because your views are unique, that's why it deserves being heard.

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I don't consider myself a New Ager.

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The end of the old realm is the beginning of the new one.

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The global community does not resemble Atlantis. Destruction of the old brings the birth of the new.

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The new realm is beyond the imagination of humankind.

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posted March 09, 2009 11:58 PM         

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You are funny.

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But its a strawman irony.

I'm not asking you to quote new age gurus.

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I'm asking you to say what you have to say.

See the difference?

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But if you have good reasons for your silence, that is fine.

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I just think that fear of disagreement, or judgment, is an excuse, not a reason.

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If it is judgement you fear, then allow me to judge you for that, lol.

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And to encourage you to be brave, and to let your freak flag fly.

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Or are you afraid to subject your views to the scrutiny that will follow?

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You are not obligated to explain it all or convince anyone.

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Just say as much as you want to say. Or don't.

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Whatever. It makes no difference to me.

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I just hate to think that you would censor yourself, on account of what others might think.

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What I like best about you, LEXX, is that you are a true original.

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Just be yourself.

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Who cares if they "get it"?

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And of course I shall still post my views.
But also I see no logic in manually repeating myself.
That is why I often copy cut paste from things I have already written when it fits the topic. Saves re-typing.

posted March 10, 2009 12:14 PM         

if you have experiences that give you information on atlantis i would very much like to hear about them....since all most of us have are theories! i haven't really thought much about atlantis in the past, it has only just started coming up for me. however the bit about psychics being our future communication network is something that came up about 35 years ago and just recently has re-reared its head in my daily experiences...

posted March 10, 2009 03:45 PM         

As to Atlantis.
In my opinion.....
The version EVERYONE seems to allude to is NOT
remotely what I remember vividly.
Nor is the time frame even close.
The popular version dates from 9,600 BCE.
My version dates from about 250 million years ago. The second from 60 million years ago. I fought with my teachers in elementary school, third grade, over the extinction of the dinosaurs.
I told them it was the fault of the ones from the Pleiades.
I fought with the minister (at age 4 to 9) about angels, and told him they were servants/puppets of the evil ones from there, and soul eaters.
I had absolutely no reason to feel and believe as I did except for my intense dreams and visions.
My mother would whip me bloody over my talk.
I had to wear long black tights and long sleeves to hide the bloody welts.
She said I was listening to Satan and demons and was insane.
She wanted to beat it out of me.
I terrified her when I would bring dead animals back to life.
Like a cat who got killed when struck by a car, and its eyes fell out.
I brought it back. It had no eyes but was fine.
Same for a pet bunny who got hurt by a dog who tore into his pen.
I sewed him up, and gave him mouth to nose and cpr (I have no idea how I knew how to do such things).
Whilst at Summer camp, both mysteriously died, according to my mother, the bunny was struck by lighting and the cat somehow just died. I believe she killed them because she thought they were zombies and a eyeless cat creeped her out.
My dad turned a blind eye to it all, being he was/is somewhat autistic.
All he said was, "don't talk about it to anyone, they will think you are crazy", but also said, "keep this a big secret.....the universe is a big place and anything you can imagine is true somewhere".
I said, "but I am not imagining, I am remembering!"
He said, "you have to stop talking like that or you'll get locked up."
It was not until I was 43 years old that I finally met a few who shared roles in my memories. Lets just say, it was quite an intense experience when it happened and recognition was instantaneous, and within a few hours of meeting, confirmation I was/am not alone in it all was mine.
Yeah, I sound nutters.
I began having vivid and wonderful, and also horrifying memories when I was age 2 1/2.
Adult themes and political matters flooding my child mind. Things a child should not be able to conceive of, like my body, which was not a child, and not even human.
Nothing on television or in movies prompted my visions. We did not have television, nor had I gone to any science fiction movies yet. I was 12 before I encountered such media, which was extremely silly and blase' by comparison to my memories. I remembering thinking. geez, are people really this stupid that they consider this crap advanced and the future, like the old Lost In Space.
Or Flash Gordon.
Yeah, I get irritated at talk of angels, aliens, Tesla, Biblical matters, and much more.....because I remember.
I knew things before I read about them.
I know things "before" archaeologists find out, then later they find the poof I needed to confirm my memories are not my imagination.
I write and speak at times, in other languages whilst in deep immersion trance. Yet I know no other languages.
I have always felt that I am outside of the rest of humanity somehow. I feel different.
Beginning when I was 4, I would get what I call my grids, a computer like holographic display in front of my vision, with read outs
and diagrams and all...like Robocop.
Yet at that time, (1958) there were no media or concepts out there like that, nor personal computers, or holograms, or digital displays.
Yet there it was appearing in front of me.
I would analyze everything using it.
I would take apart radios, and other electric devices beginning at age 4 and fix them and put them back together again.
I often just took things apart to study, and then reassemble.
I saw auras and those without head auras.
I sensed there were people and there were puppets.
OK...
enough for now.
I have been quite ill of late and am only just now recovering.
Must rest again.