|
Author
|
Topic: Quantum existence on other planets
|
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 23, 2010 06:25 PM
 
Quinnie  quote:
Wow Lexx those pictures and especially the 2nd one illustrate that particular experience well!
It is freedom!!! I could get lost in it... Talk about Alice In Wonderland 
A Cosmic Alice!  ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 23, 2010 06:36 PM
  ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 23, 2010 07:48 PM
Yeah that is exactly it Lexx! Thank you!!!You can feel the soul take flight in the mind.......
They are beautiful pics from beautiful Lexx IP: Logged |
starr33
Moderator Posts: 150
From: Does it matter?
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 02:01 PM
Awesome! Where do you obtain your Graphics, Lexx? I like how they make me think. IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 3431
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 03:47 PM
 IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 03:56 PM
Starr... you have experienced someone standing at the foot of your bed? What happened? Did it last briefly? Did it communicate? How did you feel? What do you think was it's purpose?
You are sure astrally travelling...
I wish I could do it at will, that would be sooo cool!Kat... A holographic experience..."if einstein was right time is all at once, right? so those probabilities and parallels and past lives and future lives really are not all that separate."........ So that would mean instant connection from a united source of consciousness... how can we be sure that we aren't supposed to think about these things... to think about other wordly connections or incarnation we have with people... to grow from that understanding...
I get compelled to look at things follow them up and obsess over them until I find the final resolution and then it just becomes another piece of the jigsaw... but I have to find that piece, understand it and integrate it into the fuller picture before the fuller picture can make sense and completion. Seame... "Obsessing is about stagnating lowering yourself into a quagmire, etc. You need to breath and free yourself. I would actually recommend to cease contact with that person for a while until you feel safe and normal again. I don't think obsession's can be healthy."..... I think this is great advice. For me it's not so much about the obsession it's about how much that obsession impacts on my life, if it's healthy or not...
And things should be allowed to breathe, to incubate to stay healthy. Randall... It is interesting and yet as real as it may be... it is pure imagination. Mystic..... quantum physics is awesome... I wish I knew more of the science behind it. Lexx... awesome inspiring pics... a picture can speak a thousand words! IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 3431
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 04:38 PM
yes i know about the dog-with-a-bone pluto need to follow leads. i do it myself. i wasn't trying to discourage you, tho some people get so rapt in other-worldly things as to let their here-and-now fall apart. i don't actually think you are likely to go there, but wanted to remind you that here-ans-now is where you chose to be, so it is probably of first importance no matter how tempting other worlds may be...where is your natal pluto? is saturn getting near it? because saturn can bring "down to earth" (ie make "real")the energies of whatever it touches...! IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 04:47 PM
Well now Kat!!!!My natal Pluto is at 22 degrees Libra conjunct my sun at 25 degrees, in my first house... Ascendant is 14 Libra.... But... natally I have Saturn at 3 Libra and for the last few months Pluto in Capricorn has been squaring it as well as this I'm having my lovely Saturn return!.... Yep grounding needed? IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 3431
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 04:49 PM
generally that would be grounding HAPPENING. so this may be where your next cycle is rolling..? so saturn is trawling your 12th house now...that was NOT fun for me! but it does bring the universal a little more into perspective!!IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 05:05 PM
hmmm is Saturn natally in your 12th house?It's not that fun, it's been ALOT of practical work and study but I'm more than ok with the personal development as Saturn is in my 12th house natally... The next few years are going to be fun, fun, fun!!!!....Once the Saturn return is over it will be hitting my ascendant, then Pluto/Sun conjunction whoop whhop... can't wait...
To be honest it's the reality kick up the arse that I needed I think.... I'm hoping to be qualified in my studies by the end of it and working as a counsellor and towards possible astrology qualification if I can afford it, time and money... What kind of experiences did you have when Saturn was transiting your 12th?.... And did it all culminate when it conjunct your ascendant? IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 24, 2010 05:10 PM
It's funny because a few days ago someone posted a thread with an astrological article in it and it talked about Saturn being the secondary ruler of Libra, perhaps because Saturn is exalted in Libra?
The article says that if Saturn is highly aspected or feautures strongly in your chart, as a Libran you will be more Saturnine in your overall character... This rung a bell in my ears... and very synchronistic... during my Saturn return IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 3431
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 25, 2010 12:25 PM
saturn-sun conjunction, yes? pluto is going to SQUARE your sun in a few years but not yet!! yes if you have 12th house saturn natally it probably is more than workable for you. mine is natally in 7th, and when it went through my twelfth, well, uranus conj neptune were already there, and pluto was squaring my sun. it was hard work but worth it!!as to experiences? a lot of "instant manifestations", both of what i wanted and what i was afraid of, going through a back-and-forth split with my husband which took a lot out of me (i was happy and relieved when he left the FIRST time, but by the last time i was just exhausted!), learning that i actually COULD cope with parenting despite a lot of power struggles in that arena with him, getting a JOB (not my style dahlink) and a ROUTINE...that may sound childish but i had always prided myself on winging it and thriving! uranus and neptune were travelling there too, and for longer, it was a time of high telepathy, seeing my mother's health fail, you name it really LOL.. basically, it was a time of constantly having the rug ripped out from under my feet until i learned to fly!! IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 26, 2010 06:12 PM
My goodness it all happened for you!! Think that's quite similar in ways to what's going on for me. So did you make the break before or after Saturn transited your ascendant?IP: Logged |
sjuuzii
Knowflake Posts: 3
From:
Registered: Mar 2010
|
posted March 26, 2010 08:18 PM
hi
i read a book by michael newton, it was about soul journey. how we come to this planet,why, and the diferent levels we might think and act. http://www.near-death.com/newton.html here is the author.of course,its not100% truth,because we never know whats behind,but anyway interesting. i havent read all posts yet, butthis question is worth discovering. good luck! thank u for sharing it.=)IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
Knowflake Posts: 56
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 11:01 AM
Combined with Lexx's other 2 threads it makes for some great reading IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
Knowflake Posts: 56
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 11:03 AM
 IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 11:37 AM
Lei_Kuei
I shall try to find links to other related posts of mine.
I try to avoid retyping previously posted information.
------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 11:43 AM
Quinnie
quote:
Yeah that is exactly it Lexx! Thank you!!!You can feel the soul take flight in the mind.......
They are beautiful pics from beautiful Lexx
Thank you! starr33
quote:
Awesome! Where do you obtain your Graphics, Lexx? I like how they make me think.
Been collecting images on the net as I come across them. They are quite thought provoking, which is why I like them.katatonic quote:
Thank you!------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 12:27 PM
Concepts of parallel existences and linear vs non linear time encompasses both subjective and objective realities.
The blending then leads to theories, not fact backed by empirical evidence.
My personal experiences have been such a blending, with logic added, and are not my beliefs, but my theories. I do not believe in anything 100%, or at least not as perceived/experienced/taught.....
I require absolute proof.My view on the soul, and quantum existence is rather complex, but for now I shall say,
Just as a clone is like the original physically, its soul and aura are totally separate from the original which supplied the bodily material.
It is a totally different person, just like any newborn.
So unless one does a soul and pattern split, (not a good thing to do, as it leads to overpopulation and unrequited searches for someone to make one feel whole)the parallel duplications of one, would not be connected psychically. Also there would be no logical reason to connect because the duplicates may appear to be the same but they would not be.
As for linear time, well, for beings in the physical it does matter and apply.
If a tree falls in the woods and no one sees and hears the event, it still happened, in a very linear manner with sounds and impact to the ground included. Even without any witnesses, it will slowly decay as linear time passes. Evolution is subject to linear time.
OK...enough for now...probably causing more confusion than not.
------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*>
IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 3431
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 04:24 PM
"Concepts of parallel existences and linear vs non linear time encompasses both subjective and objective realities.
The blending then leads to theories, not fact backed by empirical evidence.
My personal experiences have been such a blending, with logic added, and are not my beliefs, but my theories. I do not believe in anything 100%, or at least not as perceived/experienced/taught.....
I require absolute proof."exactly. and while i look forward to finding out the truth, i intend to make the most of right here and now where i find myself...AND for as long as possible! IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 289
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 05:02 PM
Hmmm I have a difficulty with this term ...." I do not believe in anything 100%, or at least not as perceived/experienced/taught.....
I require absolute proof."What is absolute proof and absolute truth? It seems there is neither. I believe that someone appeared at my bedside but I can't prove it. I believe that so called mentally ill patients are experiencing some sort of spiritual awakening and at the very least... a change of perspective, but it's still treated as mental illness. I believe that there are reasons to existence and there are also existential fears and yes it stops me in my tracks. I can never fully let go and experience the present. Why? because every time I do I have to once again live in the past and the future. You see I don't think anyone really lives in the presnt... if one did, would we speak, (words learnt from past communication), would we even communicate at all? I think the only way to experience the present is in death. Freedom from thoughts or influences from the past or future is death. A belief is transient, flies away in the face of adversity... what's left remains.... what's left is the past or the future, not the present. Who here can say they have experienced just feeling and no thoughts, or influences tied to or anchoring that feeling? Just the feeling of life? Maybe we all all have and just forget it because it is always in the present.... Jeez is it a full moon tonight? IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 06:24 PM
So many definitions for:
believe definitions
The language often fails us.
For example;
The Earth is flat.
The Earth is round.
I "accept" that the Earth is round, because it is a logical concept.
However, what if we are sleepers, dreamers, in a matrix or holo-world, or even beings of thought and there is no physical reality?
Then the Earth is flat or round becomes moot as there is "no Earth"...(there is no spoon).....
so, what if that is why many new agers believe thought makes reality?
You could be a program, we could all be programs, and in some ways we are(theoretically of course! LOL!)......identity patterns and memory banks attached to the neutral power source of energy, which when combined coalescence into a consciousness known as a soul, which becomes self aware and can receive more information experientially, especially whilst in the physical within an aura which reinforces the wholeness of being and the identity patterns/program of an individual entity. So in essence, an advanced artificial intelligence would indeed be able to form or acquire the elements which comprise a soul. So, when a non biological brain is advanced enough, it becomes a soul bearing physical entity, as surely as a biological bodied entity. The concept of "artificial" is then meaningless.As to other definitions of "believe";
well, too many have to do with faith, opinion, hope, and so forth.
Truth is another concept subject to opinion, and is therefore not truth, nor absolutes.
I prefer to keep the door at least ajar to enable change as new theoretical "proof" is revealed.
I "believe" in many things when employing the definitions of
"opinion, to think, assume, or suppose";
and so forth to the word "believe" Not buying into anything 100% allows me to forever think beyond the boundaries of conventional thought and open to unlimited possibilities and permutations. I would rather be a so called "doubting Thomas" forever, than to "believe" I have the last answer on anything and never look any further. I like "what if" pondering. Eternity/infinity is my "playground" and I am but an infant in the cosmic stage of my being "I". ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 27, 2010 06:28 PM
katatonic  quote:
and while i look forward to finding out the truth, i intend to make the most of right here and now where i find myself...AND for as long as possible!
Yes! ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 28, 2010 12:04 AM
Quinnie
quote:
Hmmm I have a difficulty with this term ...." I do not believe in anything 100%, or at least not as perceived/experienced/taught.....
I require absolute proof."
 Good!
quote:
What is absolute proof and absolute truth? It seems there is neither.
Indeed!
And so what is there to believe 100%? quote:
I believe that someone appeared at my bedside but I can't prove it.
Ahhh, yes, you had the experience, and therefore until proved otherwise, it is more a "knowing", which is more real than a "believing". quote:
it is I believe that so called mentally ill patients are experiencing some sort of spiritual awakening and at the very least... a change of perspective, but it's still treated as mental illness.
From what I have observed, yes this does seem to be true, but often such individuals walk a path that does not allow them to mingle amongst the accepted social environs. I suspect past lives' "bleed through" leakages of those identity patterns over integrating and in essence too many captains trying to float their boat of the current incarnation. There are many other possibilities, many, one of which could be uncontrolled empathic/telepathic linkages, a flooding of too many thoughts from others, overlapping and piling up in a jumbled incomprehensible jumble. quote:
I believe that there are reasons to existence and there are also existential fears and yes it stops me in my tracks. I can never fully let go and experience the present. Why? because every time I do I have to once again live in the past and the future. You see I don't think anyone really lives in the presnt... if one did, would we speak, (words learnt from past communication), would we even communicate at all?
I know how to live in the present, and it is very difficult to describe indeed. However in those moments of being, no, one cannot communicate, one does not think of past and future, it is a moment of, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhh........a moment of all and no think..... quote:
I think the only way to experience the present is in death. Freedom from thoughts or influences from the past or future is death.
That infers that physical death is the end...poof....lights out, nothing, and one would not have freedom or experience any present, because one would be erased so to speak. quote:
A belief is transient, flies away in the face of adversity...
Another reason that belief is not a proof nor a fact, because it cannot stand the storms of existence. quote:
what's left remains.... what's left is the past or the future, not the present. Who here can say they have experienced just feeling and no thoughts, or influences tied to or anchoring that feeling? Just the feeling of life? Maybe we all all have and just forget it because it is always in the present....
I have, and recognize it after the fact. It is that feeling and knowing that transcends words and thoughts during the experiencing the moment of being event, but can only be discussed after the fact of the experience and no words can adequately describe it. It is a wondrous eureka epiphany moment that one can bloom or spring forth from anew in some ways after each occurrence. It is an unfolding, a sweet breath of the soul, it is God within sighing and a complete opening to The All. It is a moment of all knowing and having no need to put it to words....in those moments we are God. quote:
Jeez is it a full moon tonight?
No...
that will be Tuesday March 30th.
Well perhaps I sound totally daft, but it is not the moon! ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1109
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted March 30, 2010 12:04 AM
 ------------------
Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
}><}}(*> IP: Logged |
Lindaland
UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! 
