posted March 15, 2010 05:33 PM         

I find myself obsessed with a person and even though I'm happy in my relationship and I thought about it in meditation.... what if I'm connected to this person, family or relationship in a quantum universe right now, is that why I recognised this person instantly?

What way does it all work?
Is the Earth a giant prison for souls who have abused their position in other world's and they need to come back to time-out... quarantined planet to re-balance and readress their will?

Does anyone have a clue about how our parallel lives and loves work and if they influence us or vice versa? I felt myself today as another person and it could be a flight of fancy but then again....????

posted March 17, 2010 11:01 AM         

i do not believe the prison planet stuff, nor do i believe the "slave" planet stuff. i do believe in other lives and parallel AND PROBABLE universes. if einstein was right time is all at once, right? so those probabilities and parallels and past lives and future lives really are not all that separate.

but be careful not to let "parallel" friends mess with your here and now family and relationships. they can ADD to your experience here but do they even belong here? perhaps it is time for you to learn a little more about what you are capable of, or want from life, or what? the feeling of being someone else can open those doors for you...

posted March 19, 2010 02:19 AM         

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Great post. I had a strange and wonderful experience which only lasted a few seconds, maybe less, a couple years ago. For some reason, possibly due to depression, I kept having dreams of me walking the streets, mostly at night. In these dreams, or astral trips, I am terribly lonely, looking for understanding, yet wandering aimlessly. I would also try calling friends and family with fumbling fingers, never getting an answer. I just wanted some contact.

At the time I really didn't feel as though I belonged here (this planet), as though I came here for a purpose from another place that jived with a different vibration or frequency. I felt abandoned, because I didn't know what that purpose was... still don't. I'm pretty sure we all feel this way at some point, especially folks on LL, am I right?

After a couple years of feeling this way, I was sitting doing homework on the L-top, my eyes ready to shut down, when I closed them and saw these people. I was walking towards a group of people, feeling tired and a major sense of relief fell over me. I recall a man and a woman who stood out among the others and had their arms open with welcoming smiles and familiar eyes.

Just writing about this is giving me chills. Anyway, the closer I got the more exhausted I became, and just before I was to reach them, my legs gave out, and I was about to fall into their arms, when I opened my damned eyes. As I said this took place in seconds, but the sense of my traveling such a long journey and making it home to my peers was so overwhelming that it is still with me.

I know it sounds crazy but somehow it seemed like I was really there. And I'm not describing the afterlife, what I experienced was another earth that was far more intelligent and caring. I was not in an astral body, but a superior one to my own. I also understood how much healthier this planet's atmosphere and environment was compared to this earth's.

I'm not really sold on parallel universes, but I do believe in other planets populated with people who were just like us who have endured hell and have graduated to healthier levels of existence in flesh bodies. Yes, I would stake my life on it. To me, the closest thing we may have to a parallel exsistence is in the astral. All the places I visit in my sleep are almost identical to its waking life counterpart. I don't think there is another me out there as I live and breathe. But there will be a better me in the next incarnation, whether on this planet or elswhere. Even when I wake up tomorrow I'll be a little wiser.

And what I learned from that vision? was how nobody really gets left behind, to keep my chin up, so to speak. For a better life, it starts here, right now.

posted March 19, 2010 07:59 AM         

There were other times when I felt I was in a place and the place looked like a place I knew but was also different, like it had been crossed over with another world?

I had a dream about finding myself (or my consciousness) in space and asking a voice...how do I get to a certain place in time and this voice just said something silly like a+bx3 or something... and I didn't understand it but I felt I didn't understand it because I was conscious of the dream and so using my rational brain to understand it rather than my unconscious??

Another time I was walking along the street daydreaming when I had this vision of a group of people in white coats with hoods on them, like a brotherhood.

And it also happened on two different occasions I woke up to find someone standing or floating at my bed, peering into my eyes. The first time I was very young an the boy was too. The second time I was older and so too was the male. I turned away from them and closed my eyes because I was scared then when I opened them they were gone.

Last thing I wanted to mention..I had a nightmare. I was under stress at the time, was making transition from primary to secondary school or the Us junior to high school?, so it could be merely related to that... anyway ...I woke up screaming, and crying, ran down to my mum saying the aliens were going to take them away. I had a dream that my family were either being taken over or taken away by aliens... and I was hysterical.

Anyway I am of the mind that you fight for what you believe... I don't listen to anything telling me not to write something for fear of judgement or any other reason because I'm a fighter.... No-one or nothing will scare me!

"At the time I really didn't feel as though I belonged here (this planet), as though I came here for a purpose from another place that jived with a different vibration or frequency."... ditto... have felt that I had an astral experience at least on Jupiter and Saturn.

"And what I learned from that vision? was how nobody really gets left behind"... what I have learned is to leave no-one behind... I'll stay and fight until I die with everyone else.

Lastly ", but a superior one to my own. I also understood how much healthier this planet's atmosphere and environment was compared to this earth's."... A place I experienced seemed to be like hollow earth, a planet forming and further on when the planet had soil, water etc. The water shooted up like geezers and there was marshland everywhere. People rolled along literally and some communicated through some time of telepathic song....Fancy daydreaming, parallel existance, previous reincarnation or another world?

Have you ever had Iq look at your chart to see if there are any asteroid placements that might point to a star or region where your higher soul exists?
I'm still not quite sure how it works... the soul peices I mean... do we each have 14 soul peices of our higher soul, the aim to integrate each part either as one body or two..twin souls... or as a group soul family? I'm not completely clear on it.
We could be connecting astrally to other soul peices

posted March 19, 2010 08:05 AM         

I agree in many ways to katatonic. We are all everywhere, but this isn't too precise hey? In my mind, the problem with science is the granularity of the tools used to measure things - not to say we can measure dimensional things, but what we can measure is still limited, hence I think theory and philosophy can be more accurate. I really like these questions posted. Not sure if they're rhetorical, but I'm gonna try to answer them.

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Are we recognising people on Earth who's soul's we are deeply connected to in other dimensional Earth's or planets.

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This is possible in the sense that when we sleep, we could be anywhere, and hence the people we meet while they sleep could recognise us in the "awake world". This is because in multidimensional universes, what is matter here, could be astral there, but everythind overlaps too, yeah?, so we can sometimes see into other beings relationships that we may have had in the past, future, or right now on a different plane. I once met someone in a dream months before I met her in real life, but this stuff does your head in. It wasn't for me in any case.

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I find myself obsessed with a person and even though I'm happy in my relationship and I thought about it in meditation.... what if I'm connected to this person, family or relationship in a quantum universe right now, is that why I recognised this person instantly?

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The term "obsessed" I think is mental and not spiritual. To me, spiritual is about learning and growing. Obsessing is about stagnating lowering yourself into a quagmire, etc. You need to breath and free yourself. I would actually recommend to cease contact with that person for a while until you feel safe and normal again. I don't think obsession's can be healthy. You could be connected to that person in many ways, but the important thing to remember, is that in this plane, you have made sensible choices and are happy, so try not to mess with that. You never know what rabbit hole you'll fall into delving into unknowns. I'm not saying you can't communicate with this person, just re-assess your priorities first and obtain some space.

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What way does it all work? Is the Earth a giant prison for souls who have abused their position in other world's and they need to come back to time-out... quarantined planet to re-balance and readress their will?

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I think reality is what it is. Much seems unreal, but we eat, live, and breathe. This world sure has it's issues and challenges, and instead of thinking we're prinsoners, how about we chose this existence because we like challenges? Alternatively, we like the specific contributions we want to give to this world - not that we are saving or changing the world (not that we're not), but I mean, we live within our own world within the larger one. I think in some ways, paradise would actually be quite boring as everyone is always happy and fulfilled. Where's the growth? Where's that shiver from learning something that at that moment, no one else in the world would know? That said, I sure wish this world was a better place.

[Wow, that's amazing starr33. I can see you there.

I agree in many ways to katatonic. We are all everywhere, but this isn't too precise hey? In my mind, the problem with science is the granularity of the tools used to measure things - not to say we can measure dimensional things, but what we can measure is still limited, hence I think theory and philosophy can be more accurate. I really like these questions posted. Not sure if they're rhetorical, but I'm gonna try to answer them.

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Are we recognising people on Earth who's soul's we are deeply connected to in other dimensional Earth's or planets.

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This is possible in the sense that when we sleep, we could be anywhere, and hence the people we meet while they sleep could recognise us in the "awake world". This is because in multidimensional universes, what is matter here, could be astral there, but everythind overlaps too, yeah?, so we can sometimes see into other beings relationships that we may have had in the past, future, or right now on a different plane. I once met someone in a dream months before I met her in real life, but this stuff does your head in. It wasn't for me in any case.

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I find myself obsessed with a person and even though I'm happy in my relationship and I thought about it in meditation.... what if I'm connected to this person, family or relationship in a quantum universe right now, is that why I recognised this person instantly?

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The term "obsessed" I think is mental and not spiritual. To me, spiritual is about learning and growing. Obsessing is about stagnating lowering yourself into a quagmire, etc. You need to breath and free yourself. I would actually recommend to cease contact with that person for a while until you feel safe and normal again. I don't think obsession's can be healthy. You could be connected to that person in many ways, but the important thing to remember, is that in this plane, you have made sensible choices and are happy, so try not to mess with that. You never know what rabbit hole you'll fall into delving into unknowns. I'm not saying you can't communicate with this person, just re-assess your priorities first and obtain some space.

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What way does it all work? Is the Earth a giant prison for souls who have abused their position in other world's and they need to come back to time-out... quarantined planet to re-balance and readress their will?

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I think reality is what it is. Much seems unreal, but we eat, live, and breathe. This world sure has it's issues and challenges, and instead of thinking we're prinsoners, how about we chose this existence because we like challenges? Alternatively, we like

Does anyone have a clue about how our parallel lives and loves work and if they influence us or vice versa? I felt myself today as another person and it could be a flight of fancy but then again....????

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Does anyone have a clue about how our parallel lives and loves work and if they influence us or vice versa? I felt myself today as another person and it could be a flight of fancy but then again....????

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Well, I think we're always influenced by other's on any plane, as well as the stars, numbers, the feeling of walking on grass, the wind and sun, the kiss goodbye on the way to work (blown and/or felt), etc. I think it's very humane and compassionate to put yourself in other's shoes, and try to feel what they would, but then, they have their own lives. They could try to feel yours, but you have your own life. Everyone is special and unique, we don't have to compare to others or try to be better. I'm not saying this is what you are saying, but influence is like wind pushing a boat. Can you steer the boat? Can many people steer a boat? There should really only be one captan of each ship.

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Anyone got any ideas on how quantum universes work?

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I love Quantum science as much as the next person - don't we all The term quantum means small packet. But also it implies an ability to leap space. I've never really heard of Quantum Universes, because Quantum mechanics is concerned with the intricacies of how atoms work - Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) is the interaction between electrons and light. Quanta being the light, electro the electrons, and dynamics, the ways these things interact. The QED force is the second weakest force (gravity being the weakest). The two strongest are between Quarks (strong nuclear) and Hadrons (weak nuclear - hadrons are protons and nuetrons, etc). So Quantum Universe sounds a little weird to me, but I think perhaps an analogy is like one Universe exists over another, and you need a quantum leap from one to the next - as an electron jumps from one state to the next when absorbing photons. So in this sense, as you grow spiritually, you may access other realms while still existing on this plane. That's one theory in any case. Not sure if it helps.

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What exactly the soul is?

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Well, now we're getting deep. Not sure where this fits in this discussion except perhaps you're asking about soul mates, etc? In any case, the soul is the energy required to move your body around - it tries to control the mind, and may have influences from the higher-self as to decisions, etc. I think soul's are like people, but less complicated. They want to experience, but can't. They need bodies and minds. They are eternal though, and the bodies and minds they control may be subjected to decisions the soul has made in different incarnations. Since the soul is energy, it may be argued that "Where does this energy stop?" Well, it doesn't - all is energy. Since God is all, and God is Energy, All is Energy and God. Matter is also Energy. But the soul is at a different frequency from matter, and God in a sense. It's like, God is the fundamental frequency that allows all frequencies to exist, and the souls are variations of these frequencies, but it's more complicated than that - the soul isn't just one frequency. It's like a standing wave that pulsates about your body, but always originates from within. However, you can pick up other's energies, etc.

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Does the soul exist on different dimensions or is it parts of the soul that live on different parallel worlds?

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Well, as I said, the Soul and Energy and God are one, so we all exist everywhere all the time, the question is, what do you allow to filter in through your mind at any given moment? The stronger the mind, the better the filter; the weaker, the poorer.

Anyhow, I loved discussing your questions.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted March 19, 2010 08:25 AM         

"but I think perhaps an analogy is like one Universe exists over another, and you need a quantum leap from one to the next - as an electron jumps from one state to the next when absorbing photons."

I wrote "There were other times when I felt I was in a place and the place looked like a place I knew but was also different, like it had been crossed over with another world?"
This feels like what you meant ....
I wish I knew more about physics like what happens to the atoms in your body when you sleep... the astral body... (or soul) takes quantum leaps? and when the consciousness of the body and soul connect then the two universes cross over? So an astral and a psychological awareness marry?

"he soul is the energy required to move your body around"

posted March 23, 2010 03:30 PM         

I had a dream about finding myself (or my consciousness) in space and asking a voice...how do I get to a certain place in time and this voice just said something silly like a+bx3 or something... and I didn't understand it but I felt I didn't understand it because I was conscious of the dream and so using my rational brain to understand it rather than my unconscious??

I love this. Maybe math is more important than I thought. I wish I didn't hate it.

posted March 23, 2010 04:48 PM         

Quinnie :-)

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Lexx after re-reading your link and seeing there are other links to read I realised that you have provided more than enough information!!

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I think the difference between being able to open your mind to other dimensions of consciousness, and not, is the belief that it is possible.
I had a nearly mentally orgasmic experience
Not sure what to take from it but it feels like I'm tuning in and get it for a few seconds before it fades out again. So I'm in training I think... for what??? I don't know... All that I do know is that when you are in the space of mind where there are no limits and your imagination runs free it feels orgasmic... not physcially though... mentally... the brain is stimulated and the happy hormones released but the physcial sensations are not there.
Have you ever felt this way when you were creating or listening to music?

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One question though... you called it " ~Creator god-faux gods-and humans-a short story~"... Is it part fictional or all conceived through the medium of trance?

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posted March 23, 2010 04:59 PM         

a little later i was given a couple of cds for use in my practice, celtic-flavoured music - which reminds me of the highlander very strongly. there were so many good "bytes" in those films/tv shows.