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mochai
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posted March 05, 2011 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all these insightful posts.

I was googling illuminati and eyes wide shut and I came across something saying that kubrick used this romanian priest's chant in reverse for the masked ball scene. It supposed to be a liturgy praising jesus's last command to love eachother as I have loved you. In reverse I could see it being the opposite in meaning or a sign of defiance/disrespect.

I also found this which is tying to decode some of the symbolism of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZLPwWt_IM&feature=related

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posted March 06, 2011 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just watched it, and the whole movie gave me the creepy vibe. The whole thing felt diseased.

I know I'm still pretty clueless when it comes to a lot of occult symbology.

For starters I've seen the V used as a female fertility symbol, and I saw that at the hooker's house, not to mention the christmas trees everywhere. I wish I knew the pagan history behind tree worship and what it meant symbolically at christmas.. but I don't have the time tonight. I'd be particularly interested in what the lights on the trees represented.

I felt the video above did some interesting take on the rainbow symbolism. I know there are rainbow girls too as a precursor to the eastern stars (female equivalent to masons). If anyone can come up with more of what these mean from an occult/masonry perspective that'd be interesting.

I found it symbolic that there were hardly any windows featured in the movie with the exception of the scene where the wife spoke of her desire for the naval officer. I probably missed some, but a lot of scenes were devoid of any link to the outside.

I liked how it practically screamed mk-ultra is real in some places, with the drugs and creepy dissociative smile of the costume shop owner's daughter etc.

Unfortunately my rental was scratched, how/where did it talk about reality creation? I missed the girl's talking after the ball mask ceremony where she pulls him aside, not to mention the wife's dream which I'm guessing is an occult ceremony she's participated in from later dialogue

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posted March 06, 2011 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent points mochai, I too thought of MKUltra throughout the whole movie...the ceremony in the mansion is some kind of Black Mass I guess, notice also the interesting take on the choice of music - Romanian Christian chant, sang backwards...
About the rainbow, yeah, could be reference to eastern star too, although i think its even deeper, it must be some 'trigger' for the mind-controlled girls-slaves...

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posted March 06, 2011 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I think Alice (Kidman) was in fact in the ceremony but she didnt have any recollection of it (mind-controlled?), and the 'dream'' of her participating in a ceremony that sounded eerily like the one cruise had been to, was actually fragments of her memories....did you see the part where cruise finally goes home, his wife sleeping, and sees his mask next to her, in the bed??

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mochai
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posted March 06, 2011 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't think it was so much a reference to the eastern star, I was just noting that they used the rainbow symbolism there as well, and wondering what it meant.

Another thing was there were a lot of the 8 pointed stars, particularly around Bill's friend who ran the initial party as well as in the mansion. There were 5 pointed stars too. I found a bunch of different meanings for the 8 pointed star here http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=48152

Another symbol I saw was the double cross.

I think I'm going to spend half of today searching through pagan symbolism and gods *sigh*

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posted March 06, 2011 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just watched the trailer. I find it weird that this movie was released on my birthday.

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