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iQ
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posted May 15, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the best books on the Law of Karma written by a Human Being. Explains everything from genetic karma/race karma, National Karma, individual and family karma, sexual karma, Effect of Curses/Blessings, Karma stored in Higher Self/OverSoul/Greater Causal Body...

The book has dozens of insights that no "official guru" with zombie fans can know.

For instance, if an Astrologer finds out when he can make money in a gambling event and makes cash, he attracts a karmic debt but a client does not when he asks an astrologer for a good timing.

Every Blessing without invoking God carries a karmic debt that can even involve reincarnation. Every oath carries a debt.

The books recounts how America has been indirectly blessed by Sri Rama and directly by Swami Vivekananda.

It speaks of how Pakistan lost the wars against India by means of a technique known as "Prakriti Siddhi" where karmic debts are manipulated by Higher Beings to pervert the minds of wrong doers and attract faster retribution.

The author Robert Svoboda was a disciple of Aghori Vimalananda. Vimalananda was a true Guru and hated fame. Robert has not been given permission to even divulge his name.

I hope to transcribe more snippets from this book on this thread when I have time.

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posted May 15, 2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Convo carried over from this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000765-6.html

Hi IQ,

["All the immigrants owe a huge karmic debt to their mother country."]
~ What exactly constitutes as your, "mother country?" By race or by birth? What if your 2nd generation Scottish born in America? Let's say your Indian but born in America, would you have to pay debts to India or America?

["if an Astrologer finds out when he can make money in a gambling event and makes cash, he attracts a karmic debt."]
~ How is that fair? That's like saying if your a talented singer & you decide to make money off your looks & voice...you'll attract karmic debt?

IQ,
I've read quite a few psychic predictions etc. before, about how a huge portion of Japan would eventually sink into the ocean. Now if such an event really were due to karma,...would that mean Japan or other collective consciousness involved were unsuccessful in reducing karma to have such a tragic fate occur? That freaks me out if Japan really were to sink. However on the flip side Atlantis will rise as a result.

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posted May 15, 2011 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Let go of trying to control this situation, and allow the divine infinite wisdom to flow through your higher self.
~ Doreen Virtue

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posted May 15, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found it online:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693831/Svoboda-Aghora-III-the-Law-of-Karma

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posted May 16, 2011 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks CancerScorp79!

@Agent:
Hi IQ,
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["All the immigrants owe a huge karmic debt to their mother country."]
~ What exactly constitutes as your, "mother country?" By race or by birth? What if your 2nd generation Scottish born in America? Let's say your Indian but born in America, would you have to pay debts to India or America?
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Majority population country where maximum percentage of one's race for 7 Generations = Mother Country. Country of birth is also due its debt but only if one is reared there for 7 years because the first 7 years are concerned with karmic debts of all that is maternal.

An Indian born in America usually owes to both India and America. Genetically to India and to America for the opportunities/food/environment etc.

2nd Generation Scottish born in America have a reduced debt of course but they must contribute at least some money for a social cause in Scotland or promote tourism to Scotland for the local people to make more money.

If a person chooses to rise above these debts, he or she will feel absolutely equal love for all races and countries. In this case he or she can do good anywhere, the debts get settled automatically. I


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["if an Astrologer finds out when he can make money in a gambling event and makes cash, he attracts a karmic debt."]
~ How is that fair? That's like saying if your a talented singer & you decide to make money off your looks & voice...you'll attract karmic debt?
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It is fair because he is taking cash from those who are believing the randomness of the gambling event. If everyone uses Astrology prior to gambling, and then best astrologer wins, there is no karmic debt.
If the Astrologer declares that he has used astrology, and a brave man still chooses to challenge him in a game of dice, again there is no karmic debt or minimal karmic debt.

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IQ,
I've read quite a few psychic predictions etc. before, about how a huge portion of Japan would eventually sink into the ocean. Now if such an event really were due to karma,...would that mean Japan or other collective consciousness involved were unsuccessful in reducing karma to have such a tragic fate occur? That freaks me out if Japan really were to sink. However on the flip side Atlantis will rise as a result.
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We do not know the contract made by the collective of all Souls who chose to be Japanese and inhabit the islands at present . For advanced Souls, it is all a game.
Need not be lack of good karma per se.
If they sink now, they will incarnate afresh in some other planet where there is no chance of a disaster. Horror struck humanity will awaken to the Spirit and a large share of the good karma of awakening us will go to the Japanese Collective.

Scenario B: There is a chance for humanity to do enough good karmic deeds to prevent the sinking and still allow Atlantis or Lemuria to rise safely. The Japanese can slowly immigrate to safer areas and minimize the death toll.

Scenario C: Those who choose to sink are clearing karmic debts in one shot, perhaps others like us should praise their bravery than think that it was their bad karmas that caused it. It becomes a test for survivors.

Compassion and "Bhakti" or Divine "Madness" for God can overcome any amount of negative Karma. Perhaps some Angelic Souls from Japan will stop any doom and gloom scenario for them as well.

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posted May 18, 2011 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

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posted May 23, 2011 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More insights:
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On Cutting Trees:
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1. Cutting a tree carries some negative karma, especially when you do not plant another.

2. Planting a tree which gets abused later on creates some negative karmic debts for the planter.

3. Cutting a tree whose wood is used in making gallows creates terrible karmic debts.


On Dairy Farms:
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No negative karma if milk is sold after the calf has had his fill.

Terrible karmic debts if the calf is separated from the Cow just to sell more milk.

On Causal Body:
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Karmic debts from the causal body create the surprise events in life especially during Saturn transits. One who clears the impulses to the Mind from the Causal Body karmic debts will slowly be free of harsh events from harsh Saturn Transits.


Greater Causal Body (Oversoul):
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Holds repositories of karmic debts from other lifelines which can be optionally cleared in this lifeline through various techniques


Karma of Shah of Iran:
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He insulted the previous great Persian emperors by holding his coronation in their ancient complex. Lost his kingdom due to their curse from the Astral.


Karma of Gold and metals:
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Since they are all melted and undergo "suffering" from melting, small karmic debts are paid by their users.

Knives and swords made by treated iron have injured millions.

More examples:
Copper and Aluminium in the electrical wires/components cuts down on "Prana" in the home and causes slow buildup of illness.

Asian women have to suffer a small pain while piercing the ear for wearing gold earrings. Every little bit of pain and joy is thus accounted.

Clothes:
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Suggested to avoid raw silk clothes because the silkworms are treated terribly during extraction of silk.

On use of animals for research:
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Said to be the root cause of painful side effects of modern allopathic medicine.

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posted May 30, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your opinion IQ about what happens to souls such as those who commit terrible atrocities such as torture?

Are they destroyed by the Divine do you think? I can't imagine it is a Divine action to reincarnate a soul as a 'victim' as punishment, that sounds too base, and below justice.

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posted May 30, 2011 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, thanks for sharing. There's SO much grey areas. If a cattle hasnt had it's fill, it wouldnt be fair if the karma went beyond the farmer to the consumers who buy from the market. Basically we'd be raking up karmic debt without a clue!

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posted May 31, 2011 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Nightingale:
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Are they destroyed by the Divine do you think? I can't imagine it is a Divine action to reincarnate a soul as a 'victim' as punishment, that sounds too base, and below justice.
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There is a process in place. First, on death, every Soul feels all the good and evil reactions felt by others because of him or her. This itself settles bulk of the karmic debts. Some residue remains. After this, the "Mental State" or "Mind Pattern" of the Soul, which is very much its own Free Will Experience gives a choice of parents. At this moment, the Higher Self assesses the residual karmic debts of other lifelines that could not be resolved in this latest one. These further narrow the choice of parents. The Soul is informed of the racial debts, national debts and parents debts that will be residual as well. On agreement to incarnate after awareness of all these debts, the appropriate Natal Chart formation to get the Moon sign and Ascendant aspects to Saturn and Nodes is assessed, and birth occurs. If the Soul feels being a victim is the most satisfying emotional atonement in its higher state, nobody can do anything about it. Ultimately, this suffering erases the old karmic residues of the Causal Body, and allows enlightenment, which is the ability to "be" in the Infinite Divine Presence without having a manifested existence in any lower dimension.

This is a general framework. Depending on evolutionary requirements of the Higher Self, the Soul can take birth in another galaxy as well, in a planet similar to Earth.

There are other contracts too to test a Soul near to completion of karmic contracts.

Some "Realized Souls" incarnate to take a hit or suffer terribly. This helps cleanse others of Group Karma. Jesus did this to the extreme. The reason is a test for others to assess how we feel about such people. Do we respect them as martyrs/sacrificers or do we make a mistake like Ancient Brahmins by judging them as if they deserved the ills?

You asked about why Jews suffered the Holocaust in the first place. If you read the Old Testament, the Hebrews attracted many curses from Elders and Prophets.
These Elders are emanations of beings called "Rishis" who have so much Energy that they can "will" even a planet into existence with ease. One way to alleviate these curses was for a group sacrifice. Had Hitler been a good man, many of the these Jews would still have perished but by some other way, like an Earthquake in their chosen country. A pleasant way out? Giving money away. But are not many Jews guilty of charging usury to non Jews for centuries? Usury produces another basket of curses on the Jewish Community which prevented help from reaching the sacrificers. The Mind of potential helpers got perverted by Saturn because of these curses. Else an Aerial Bombing on Germany in 1942 from USA would have ended the holocaust and war. Today USA speaks of bombing Iran in advance but failed to act when millions were being gassed! What a joke. But it is all because of Karmic Debts.


Hitler was a vessel used by the Ancestral ET Group that had enmity with the Ancestors of the Hebrews to settle scores of their ancient Galactic Battle. The end result? The Jews gained, Hitler and his Masters suffered reverses. Such negative ET Races are called "Asuras" in Vedic Myth.

The original Sin that led to all karmic debts gaining a foothold is the desire of Souls to leave the higher dimensions to experience Physical Reality.

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posted May 31, 2011 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents LOVE this book they read a few years ago - I got them a copy when I was in India in January!

I'll need to pick it up again.. thanks for reminding me!

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posted June 01, 2011 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sunshine,
Have read it 2-3 times myself but still have not grasped the complete "hidden" meanings to my satisfaction. I read it along with Book 2: "Kundalini".

Book 1 is out of scope for most people and I do not have the courage to recommend it to others

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posted June 01, 2011 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cancer/Scorpio729:
Found it online:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693831/Svoboda-Aghora-III-the-Law-of-Karma

Thanks Cancer/Scorpio. That was very nice of you.

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posted June 01, 2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ,

I was younger when my parents first read the series some 10 years ago, and they recommended I wait to read them (can't remember if it was the first one or the second) until I was older, settled in life, married, etc. They spoke of concepts from the aghori tradition that may seem scary to one. But I do remember them sharing some excerpts with me, that were so fascinating! I did like the book on karma.. brings up so many things we don't even realize.

It is staggering to know we have much karmic debt we may not even be aware of - perhaps that is part of the reason souls reincarnate where they do - because they have a karmic connection/debt to the place in addition to the souls incarnating there at that time? It gives me goosebumps to realize there is so much order in the way things happen, all behind the scenes.

There is much belief in karma in the Indian tradition, of course (it is an Eastern concept after all). There is a saying that recounts all the types of debts a householder has, including a debt to beings inadverdently affected/killed in the process of preparing food, a debt to souls of a few generations of departed ancestors, and many others. I know of a few Hindu rituals that exist specifically to address these debts.

And then, there is the matter of realizing that good karmas cannot cancel the effects of bad ones.. each one is reaped individually. Sigh.. I still wonder when I will get through some of the bad to where I may experience the good, because in some ways my life is in a holding pattern.

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Originally posted by iQ:
Hi Sunshine,
Have read it 2-3 times myself but still have not grasped the complete "hidden" meanings to my satisfaction. I read it along with Book 2: "Kundalini".

Book 1 is out of scope for most people and I do not have the courage to recommend it to others


That is quite a sensible decision. Besides, left practices have disadvantages to a great extent if one is not wise.

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posted June 01, 2011 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am currently reading Aghora II after you recommended it IQ, ever since you explained my Kaali/Moon aspect and the Kundalini Awakening I was extremely interested...it is an eye-opener!!

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posted June 03, 2011 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the answer IQ. This interests me a great deal.

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posted June 26, 2011 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anybody with Kundalini rising read this Aghora II Book by Dr Svoboda? It gives a lot of insight in Tantra. Bumping for them.

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posted January 07, 2013 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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