posted May 10, 2011 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Thanks for the counterpoint on America's good Karma, Jwhop. Karma goes both ways. America is, indeed, the most altruistic nation; we give billions in aid--even to our own detriment. We drop massive amounts of food and medicine in war zones to enemies we are fighting. Karma is a Spiritual concept that is complex on a myriad of levels, but we live in a physical world...a world with laws to protect us...and prisons for people who break those laws. In this physical world, sometimes war is necessary, and Karma or no Karma, sometimes death is warranted in order to protect our children and give them a chance for a future. Osama was one such example. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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posted May 11, 2011 12:51 AM            

I thought this interesting:

Ecclesiastes Chapter 3

posted May 11, 2011 04:52 AM            

One of the biggest good karmas that repeatedly add value to the American Nation beyond giving cash/food aid is giving away technology for free, like the Internet. Had America charged hefty royalty for the Internet, Servers etc, I think the rest of the planet would still be miles behind and many innocents would be repressed. Truth from Wikileaks and other Whistleblowers would still be suppressed.

Had it not been for the personal good work of hundreds of millions of American citizens, would the Yellowstone Caldera have kept quiet? Good Karma = Cold Magma.

Why are the maximum number of light workers incarnating on US Soil?

A few bad apples per tree does not mean a rotten forest.

But the responsible folk will not hesitate to point out the bad apples for the good of the trees even if a few loud apples dislike criticism.

posted May 11, 2011 10:01 AM            

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

I know that there is no good in them, but/except for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.

posted May 13, 2011 04:27 AM            

We cannot know with 100% certainty why a country like Japan has to take the hit for balancing certain planetary karmas but we can deduce from the nature of the incidents.

Japan is the only country to have been nuked. They should have been the first to advocate avoidance of nuclear power. Instead they too accepted nuclear energy. This is perhaps why they have been chosen by Earth Being to suffer the karmic debts of ill nuclear effects more than other nations.

Other Nations suffer the karmic effect of nuclear poisoning by allowing individuals to suffer radiation therapy for Cancer. The truth is radiation therapy is a fraud, only raising alkalinity levels of the body can one treat tumours. Karma has perverted the minds of scientists and medical industry to foist this slow death on patients.

Karma a runs very deep and works multidimensionally.

Heart diseases have increased across Humanity because of the karmic debt of not loving the Earth Being enough.

The analogy of Earth Being to us is like head lice or mites or ticks to the individual. If they bite too much, we scratch them away. The mightiest nations and mightiest people on the surface are nothing more than a little insect to the Earth Being.

We keep on drilling and drilling for oil, there are bound to be reactions from Earth.

Earth has to heal Herself in accordance with the collective Karmic debts of all Nations.

posted May 14, 2011 03:31 PM            

What's the name of the book? I'm interested in learning more about karma too.

["Japan is the only country to have been nuked. They should have been the first to advocate avoidance of nuclear power. Instead they too accepted nuclear energy."]
~ IQ, but from my understanding the reason they didnt update their nuke plants to using slightly safer chemical compounds is cuz of an alterior motive. After WW2 they werent allowed to militarize, hence they kept these around really for nuclear war-fare. This they'll never openly admit. Their last, "steady," PM-Koizumi (prior 2004 before their govt became so volatile), was a major military/colonization supporter. I dont know exactly how Karma works, but I kinda saw this Nuke accident as something that just back-fired on themselves.

["Other Nations suffer the karmic effect of nuclear poisoning by allowing individuals to suffer radiation therapy for Cancer."]
~ Japan uses Chemo as well to treat Cancer. I dont see how this would single them out?

posted May 15, 2011 11:41 AM            

and the price they have paid for their colonial days has been in the flooding of the country with immigrants from those old colonies, and a very rapid and painful "melting pot" effect which threw many english for a double loop. also the purchasing of much of england's most desirable land and buildings by arabs and russians.

also the current ongoing battle with fundamentalist muslims is affecting all the countries who once colonized those peoples' lands.

posted May 15, 2011 01:53 PM            

Oh I know it doesnt have to be nuclear. Infact with Japan I was thinking more about the Tsunami that instantly took out all those lives over the slow cooker of nukes.

["they have paid for their colonial days has been in the flooding of the country with immigrants from those old colonies, and a very rapid and painful "melting pot" effect which threw many english for a double loop."]

posted May 15, 2011 02:03 PM            

The immigrants create new karma as well.

All the immigrants owe a huge karmic debt to their mother country. No Indian nor Pakistani immigrant is ever going to find happiness unless and until he settles this debt. He may get wealthy but that wealth is cursed unless he pays Mom's bills
The Chinese are smart in this matter. They send the latest technology back home and have built their mother nation to a Superpower. Thomas Friedman thinks China has overtaken Europe and US in terms of urban infrastructure.

Another issue with immigrants is gratitude. How many are truly grateful to Westerners for the wealth, infrastructure and opportunities provided in Western Countries?

They have to learn to appreciate westerners like family.

Britain made a Chennai Shiite Muslim named Nasser Hussain the captain of their cricket team, that is something that will take out tons of karmic debts. America may someday make Fareed Zakaria the Vice President.

Those are useful lessons.

@Agent:
I have started a thread about this book.
All your questions [Excellent questions as usual] are answered in that book. We should take this discussion to that thread.

posted May 16, 2011 02:31 PM            

HOWEVER, i couldn't help but notice that many of my english friends (esp those over 30 in the 70s) were VERY upset by the influx of non-white former colonials who a) jumped up the population and caused housing crunches b) unlike the former non-whites in england didn't want to bow and scrape like good servants but to make their own way as normal citizens...and, to be honest, many had chips on their shoulders because they discovered that england really didn't consider them equals..

and IQ has a very good point about the karma those former colonials brought with them and created once there.

when i first got to england anyone who was NOT white was "black". my mother in law continually blamed "the blacks" for ALL the problems in her world. many of my older friends came from an environment that was ALL white!

20 years later every single one of those had "coloured" neighbours, and even some friends among them! that is VERY fast, and the intensity of that process was obvious to anyone who took time to observe it.

and it is VERY true that a lot of england's prime real estate now belongs to new-money arabs and russians (and americans!) instead of the aristocracy.

the bad blood that has resulted from this is def IMO a punishment of sorts.

HOWEVER, most brits are adjusting quite well now, thanks. said MIL was upset when a son married a japanese girl...dreaded having "slanty-eyed grandchildren"...but through their international marriages her kids have dragged her into the new world she lives in, and she LOVES her slanty-eyed grandkids, and even her BROWNskinned great-grandson!

posted May 22, 2011 10:31 AM            

We shouldn't muddle up karmic debt (a matter strictly in the hands of the Divine) with supporting collective punishment of peoples or nations on a human level, based on our own opinions and feelings.

Just my humble opinion.

posted May 22, 2011 11:04 AM            

Just my humble opinion."

posted May 23, 2011 05:25 AM            

We shouldn't muddle up karmic debt (a matter strictly in the hands of the Divine) with supporting collective punishment of peoples or nations on a human level, based on our own opinions and feelings.

Just my humble opinion.
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Very well said Nightingale, in fact this is being discussed on the Universal Codes forum. Collective disaster events are not even a punishment, more akin to a sacrifice to absolve the survivors of their debts in their next incarnation.

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IQ - Obama has Sun conjunct Lucifer eh? Bad.
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Very sinister. One needs to be vigilant about his hidden agenda. He is slowly showing his true colours since 2010 and I think will end up doing more harm for the American image abroad than Dubya. At least Dubya had the cowboy image, Obama is supposed to be an erudite genius. A thorough disappointment.

posted May 23, 2011 06:06 AM            

I've never had a good feeling about him, too many secrets, too many lies, and he hates America but pretended to them he was going to 'heal' them *shudder*

posted May 23, 2011 07:34 AM            

1. Ruining all relations with Pakistan, hence jeopardizing US troop recall.

2. Not being bothered about the growing cooperation between Russia, Venezuela, Iran, China and believe it or not Israel.

3. Policy mistakes in the Arab uprising, likely to make more mistakes to ensure democratic Arab Nations hate him.

4. No proper policy to prevent future BP type disasters.

5. No proper policy to punish Wall Street and prevent the financial scams of 2006-2009.

6. No solution in place for the huge US Debt.

7. No solution to make his idea of Medicare work nor any of his social ideas work.

8. No strategy to create thousands of little Bill Gates who will spur US Economic Growth through inventions/innovation. Backward thinking on outsourcing/foreign students.

9. No strategy on US Infrastructure. China might have space age infrastructure in the next 6 years.

Another four years of Obama along with enough stonewalling by Republican Senate will create a "Comatose" Government and will allow an extra four years for Russia and China [And Iran, and maybe even North Korea as a supplier to the third world] to cement their position on the world stage. Plus will allow an extra one million AFPAK tribals to take to terrorism to make life hell for US and NATO Troops.

There won't be enough cash left by 2017 to recover from lapses of a comatose government.

posted May 23, 2011 01:48 PM            

lucifer in common people's mind mean the devil right?

but is it all that lucifer is supposed to mean, or is there another side to it?

now regarding the political comments by IQ, I wonder if the expectation that he save the world is not a bit too much for any man.
I don' mean to pick on you IQ, I start to enjoy your posts, since I get to know your political leaning, close to mine, but I do disagree somehow.

""1. Ruining all relations with Pakistan, hence jeopardizing US troop recall.""

I posted a link http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000782.html to the documentary made about benazir bhutto that explains very well the inside life of politics in pakistan. since independence, this country has swung back and forth between periods of "democracy" and military rule. and each "democratic eras (the first of bhutto father and the second of benazir bhutto) resulted in tragic death for those 2 leaders.

it has been a struggle so far since independance and it is still right now, with fundamentalists growing more powerful. but having said that, this country of more than 100 millions muslim, the 4th most populated in the muslim world if I am not mistaken, has had the balls to elect a womman as leader. this hasn't YET happened in the free world.
things are even more complex considering that the US have supported by giving money, the effort to create a strong secret services in pakistan, services that are HUGE and powerful, and more like a shadow government, thanks to the direct help of the US. but I doubt this services, now that they have this power, listen quietly to their funders.
so pakistan is a country very diverse in term of power, and GI's involvment, or more generally westerners involved in the region might actually exacerbate the resentment of the simpler class of people who just see the tip of the iceberg and what they are being told by those (islamic) fundamentalist preachers

""2. Not being bothered about the growing cooperation between Russia, Venezuela, Iran, China and believe it or not Israel.""
Why is this a bad thing? cause they disagree with the standard western way of thought? the US democracy is not very much appealing, it has much that can be improved. being set up as a consumer is not the greek ideal. where do you see demos (people) cracy (power) ? not in spain right now, nor in the UK just before the irak war...is THAT bad that some contries disagree with the established orthodoxy?? cause except an actor the size of a country, I don't see, at the moment at least, an individual able to challenge it. besides, that is probably the only thing in common between the countries you listed.

""3. Policy mistakes in the Arab uprising, likely to make more mistakes to ensure democratic Arab Nations hate him.""
I am not aware of a policy mistake on the matter. may be you know more than me, but as far as I know, he, like other western nations, supported the movement in tunisia and egypt when both countries started their revolution PEACEFULLY wich deserves to be noticed by the way. now what western nation help to create in those 2 countries remain to be seen. about lybia, the case is different, gadafi said he wouldn't accept the movement. and it would be bloody. and in the region of bengzhi the people had taken the power. it would have been difficult for anyone to let them be slauthered when the 2 countries surrounding them had managed a PEACEFUL revolution. I don't know, I am not in favor of wars, but I think it was supported by the population of lybia. if it last for ages and becomes a reason for westerners interest to take over the country then it will have been counterproductive, and quite criminal, but the rebels in bengazhi are organised, and seem to know what they want, and don't want. I heard yesterday on the french radio that 4 french citizen working for a security firm in france have been arrested in bengazhi by the rebels and are suspected to be spies for gadafi. their boss has been killed in the arrest. so the rebels over there seem to have things in their hands, which sounds good.

for the other points you mentioned, and as far as I know on those subjects, (very little on healthcare or infrastructure in the US) I agree, but I think this is sort of normal, in the sense that it is what used to happened before the messiah arrived (obama), which is not much happening at all, really.

posted May 23, 2011 03:09 PM            

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lucifer in common people's mind mean the devil right?

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