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Lonake
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posted May 11, 2012 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK so you're choosing not to ignore. I don't know what else to say.

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posted May 11, 2012 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:

I've been on this forum for years now and every few months this type of thread pops up and a few people take the opportunity to pat themselves on the back for having a few indicators of an old soul in their charts.

Can I ask a stupid question that may seem like the answer is obvious? I know this thread is charged with negativity right now, but my question isn't meant to continue that negativity even though it may seem that way. I just honestly want to know the answer from your perspective.

-What's wrong with that?-

I mean, from my perspective something like that doesn't really seem to be a big deal. Everyone is guilty of that kind of thing a few times in their lives... and more often than not, it's not their intention but the perspective of the reader. Why not just... change your perspective?

Empathize, understand, and accept. Everyone wants to feel special.

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posted May 11, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An astro-version of Warhol's 15 minutes of fame. Could be.
This topic always gets me because because there's no verifiable way to prove soul age via the chart. Like lllog mentioned, they're speculations. It's like trying to find gender, you can't do it. Sexual orientation, it's not there.

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posted May 11, 2012 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sashar:
Can I ask a stupid question that may seem like the answer is obvious? I know this thread is charged with negativity right now, but my question isn't meant to continue that negativity even though it may seem that way. I just honestly want to know the answer from your perspective.

-What's wrong with that?-

I mean, from my perspective something like that doesn't really seem to be a big deal. Everyone is guilty of that kind of thing a few times in their lives... and more often than not, it's not their intention but the perspective of the reader. Why not just... change your perspective?

Empathize, understand, and accept. Everyone wants to feel special.


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posted May 12, 2012 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone even listen to what I said?
This is the wrong forum for a discussion about reincarnation.
There are other forums for that on here.

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posted May 12, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thread can be moved then, no?

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MessyLilLeo
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posted May 14, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MessyLilLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and then it died.
Sorry, I lurked.

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posted May 14, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MessyLilLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will say that I'm interested in synastry and reincarnation, only because I'm a closet, pathetically hopeless romantic (Chiron in the 5th, with water Venus and Mars, and Neptune on the asc).

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posted May 14, 2012 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
I just read today that nodes of the moon, moon, and sun in karmic houses mean it's your last reincarnation.

Hi there.

While I'm ALL for evaluating, reexamining, and triple-fact-checking everything, I've got to say that I've been told this one, too. Not only that, I do fit the profile. NNode (conjunct Part of Karma) in 12H, VX / SNode naturally in 6H. And, yeah, buddy - looks like this one's the great consolidation.

EVERY single soul with whom I've incurred some form of unbalanced karma has come to the fore. I had my first karmic relationship at 16, (arguably, they've ALL been, but some have been the real soul-shakers) and most of my closest friends, I've known since before then.

I recently told my husband that this lifetime is truly all about balancing, resolution, and telling these grand stories I've accrued along the way. It's ... quite an experience. Difficult, to say the least, but, I believe worth it, and most definitely, not boring.

Just my perspective over here. I'd love to hear others'.


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posted May 14, 2012 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow. I'm sorry. I didn't know we were fighting. I'll go get a bushel of tomatoes, and be right back. Don't, like, start apologising, or anything. I've always wanted to throw fruit mistakenly thought of as vegetable. For that discrepancy ALONE, it deserves all the abuse it can manage.

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posted June 05, 2012 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the water houses considered the karmic houses? I have Moon in 8th and Sun and Neptune in 12th. NN is in 2nd.

Regarding suicide, I was depressed years ago, but as someone else said, some part of me knew that suicide wasn't the answer. I seemed to sense how much it hurts those who you leave behind, as I feel I've taken that way out before.

I guess I long ago gave up the idea of believing we can in any way "make" this our "last" lifetime on Earth, and realized it is only when we are completely indifferent to life here, that we are not pulled back here. If you can't stand things here, it is a sure sign you will be coming back. As the saying goes, "What you resist, persists."

For a while, I found the channeled "Michael Teachings" on Soul Ages helpful. Here is a link to the descriptions of Infant, Baby, Young, Mature, and Old Soul.
http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_index.html

I found it very helpful toward understanding myself and others--that people are simply at different levels...and their goals/foci/attitudes in life differ...because of their soul age.

It is quite an involved concept, with each of the five soul ages having seven sub-levels. As well, it is not cut-and-dried, as while one can be essentially at a certain soul age, we can manifest at a younger age in certain areas of life that we have neglected to develop in the past.

Peach (OP), If I had to hazzard a guess about your ex-boyfriend, based solely on your saying he talks about suicide (and presumably grapples with depression), I'd say he is currently somewhere in the "Mature" age, which is a time that includes a lot of internal difficulties and drama.

Interestingly, there are general soul ages for countries as well, based on the average soul age of its inhabitants. ...As you can guess, the U.S. is not an "Old Soul" country. It is currently seen as YOUNG/MATURE.

Some others:

Australia: Young
Belgium: Late Mature and Early Old
Brazil: Late Baby and Early Young
Canada: Young/Mature
Caribbean Islands: Baby
China: Late Young to Early Mature
Czechoslovakia: Early Old
England: Mature (with pockets of Baby and Old)
Finland: Late Mature and Old
India: Baby and Young (Pockets of late mature and old)
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You get the idea. It can be very helpful to consider this concept--that different behavior is due to different soul ages...that we all go through these stages, with their predictable behavior, through our time here.

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