posted August 28, 2012 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by oneruledbymars:
Simunye,
I dont think we have met.
I'm Darius, known here as oneruledbymars.

I find your story fascinating. I was always looking for the "one" since I can remember. It's the Disney programming I like to call it. The 'live happily ever after with your one true love' that life growing up in the U.S programs you to have. Some people wake up and find their on way and some don't, most keep with the traditions it's just easier that way to them I guess.
Two very interesting numbers:
9
I find this description by Hans Decos interesting.
Number 9 Numerology
Global awareness

"...........The last of the cardinal numbers, the 9 is the most worldly and sophisticated of all numbers. The 9 has some similarities with the 6. However, whereas the 6 as a symbol of motherly (or fatherly) love, giving its love and care to friends, family and the immediate community, the 9 offers it to the world at large; the 9, more than any other number, has global consciousness. Looking at the shape of the symbol is, as always, quite telling. The 9 is like the 6 upside down, a symbol of her offering sympathy and compassion to everyone; a reservoir of giving with a generous downward spout.

The 9 lives in the world and understands the connections between all of mankind. It is a humanitarian, and sees no real difference between its neighbor next door and the person living in a very different culture and environment on the other side of the world. The 9 is the least judgmental of all numbers, the most tolerant and the most conscious.

The spiritual meaning of number Nine bring us to the very height of vibrational frequencies in this number sequence. Nine represents attainment, satisfaction, accomplishment, and our success to achieve an influence in our circumstances. The spiritual meaning of number Nine deals with intellectual power, inventiveness, influence over situations and things. Nine beseeches us to recognize our own internal attributes, and extend these abilities out into the world to make a positive, influential difference."

It sounds very much like 9 is linked to the Energy of Uranus...no?

And then 13:

NUMBER 13

The Number 13 is a Karmic Number. Number 13 is the number of upheaval, so that new ground can be broken. The number 13 has great power. If this power is used for selfish purposes, it will bring destruction of the self, and in turn, this will bring dis-ease and illnesses. Adapting to change gracefully will bring out the strength of the 13 vibration, and decrease any potential for the negative.
The symbolism of thirteen comes into play when we learn of Osiris (the Egyptian god of life, death and powerful solar symbol) was murdered by his brother Typhon. Isis, Osiris’ wife and sister collected his body with intent to restore Osiris back to life.

However, Typhon stole Osiris’ body and cut it into fourteen pieces and scattered them about the earth. Isis continued her quest to revive her beloved, but could only reclaim thirteen of the fourteen body parts (the fourteenth part being Osiris’ penis which interestingly fell into the Nile and was eaten by a school of fish which are also symbolic).

This tale symbolically implies that the meaning of number thirteen is the precursor to completion.
Also in Egypt, there are thirteen steps upon the ladder that leads to eternity. Upon the thirteenth step it is said the soul reaches the source of itself and attains spiritual completion."

And the number 13 is linked to spiritual completion, these two numbers could easily symbolize something new in your life that is going to help you finish your spiritual journey within.
And if you have balanced your masculine and feminine Energies properly it could very well be your twin that you manifest.

No matter who comes along love yourself first though, and walk away with the first red flag and if they don't see the need to explain themselves then never look back. It is a trick. If it is meant to be they will know it and you will know it. Your union can only be complete when you are both able to voice it to each other that you are each others twin souls then what Spirit has yoked together no man can put apart... From then on you will know by knowing, but we are in the world of illusions, remember this and remember to love yourself first and then love others as you would have them love you, then you will not so easily be deceived, disappointed, ...maybe but not deceived.
And keep a platinum circle spinning around your aura at all times for protection.

Keep me posted.

Namaste

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posted August 28, 2012 08:32 PM            

Love and light dear one. XO

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Sag Moon
Virgo Asc

posted August 28, 2012 09:05 PM            

No.

posted August 28, 2012 09:50 PM            

Isn't she though Juni!

@Athenegoddess:
"But I wouldn't understand how the twins uniting as both male or female could give 'birth' to new consciousness. The Holy spirit is the mother/father and the christ"

Because our gender in this existence doesn't define the Energy that we are. My Energy is feminine in nature and has been since the day I was born despite being a male. In day to day life, well no, you can't tell. Most people have to ask me my sexuality. But it still stands that I am aware of my masculine and feminine sides. The mother/father within me have given birth to my own inner "christ".
So has my twin. So you see gender does not matter if we all contain the necessary balance of feminine and masculine, then we are in position to attract and maintain a twin soul relationship or a soulmate relationship that is at its highest frequency.
In the end Athene ...Energy is genderless...... it has a polarity, yes and it is clear that the feminine side is associated with whats dark, hidden, emotions the divine chaos, while the masculine is associated with what is out in the pen, logical and the nature or structure and order. It is only at this level in the 3D that we tend to define things as masculine and feminine when really those are the two opposite polarities and most of us fall somewhere in between. It is what it is and I am what I am. Your twin though will contain the perfect balance for you and you relationship and how work together will mirror the inner mother/father relationship and reflects its negative and positive qualities.

You ask how we give birth to a new consciousness despite being same sex? Well hon we just do. We raise the consciousness of everyone we come into contact with and we did it long before we met each other, together the nature of that Energy is 10 fold. It is part of our mission and one of our reasons for finally incarnating with each other again.

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Aries Sun
Sag Moon
Virgo Asc

posted August 29, 2012 01:54 AM            

Oh well... each to their own I guess

An analogy of my situation is Baltar's relationship with the invisible "Six" (When Im a Guy) and "Six's" relationship with the invisible "Baltar" (When I incarnate as a woman) from Battlestar Galactica... lmao

Yea, Ill get an MRI eventually and make sure Im not Cylon-chipped

I still have many great soul-mates whom Ive spent countless lives with, but your best soul mate is yourself... in my opinion, and I think many people forget that sometimes

Sort of like running around looking for ones keys, when they were in your back pocket the whole time

posted August 29, 2012 02:28 AM            

Hello

A have a some questions for you if you do not mind of course...

What if two twin-selfves have met, but something kept getting in the way of them being together? What is then the purpose of this? A spiritual awakening which makes you long for more of that which is not manefesting naturally?

Also, how would you determine a difference between a twin-soul and twin-self?

I ask this becasue, i think i have both in my life. In my heart,I know which is which but this whole concept sometimes my biggest truth sometimes my biggest denial. Although i have felt this since i met one of them when i 16 and still do when i met the other 2 and half years ago.

or is it that nobody knows the purpose...only time will tell? all i have seen and felt....?

posted August 29, 2012 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by violet7887:
Simunye,

Hello

A have a some questions for you if you do not mind of course...

What if two twin-selfves have met, but something kept getting in the way of them being together? What is then the purpose of this? A spiritual awakening which makes you long for more of that which is not manefesting naturally?
Also, how would determine a difference between a twin-soul and twin-self?
twin-soul is somebody who is from the same parent as you are, ie if you are a Michaely, and your partner is too, so he/she is your brother/sister. Twin-self is your other half.
Love and light and Gods blessing...

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posted August 29, 2012 09:56 PM            

In this dimension is may be physical, but it does still reflect out spiritual selves. The body form I have chosen to take on in the lifetime I would be reunited with my twin, is a female and he male. The physical always reflects what is above. From my understanding, nothing can be birthed unless the components are there to give birth, and the most important force is the mother. I just don't know why you would have chosen a male body to be united with your twin?

So, I don't know. But either way, I commend you for rising above the material. I Wish you all the riches in the universe."

You are so cute..."If he truly is your twin that would be a first." ....trust me the story is nothing less than a movie. And 3 years later, with even an attempt to run from me of all people.... we understand our connection now. We both know by knowing and our lives reflect that in every way, so I am your first.
There are no absolutes in this world Athenegoddess, the person that has made you think they have to be female and male is probably the reason why I am speaking to you today. Because there are no absolutes...if there is one thing I have learned in this journey it is that.

you wrote also:
"if twins really Do meet now, as alot are in these times to help raise the consciousness of the planet, when they meet they must be ready to ascend and the ascension is where they unite their male/female selves to create completion."

But how would you attract each other if you have not already started on your path to ascension? You do not need your twin to ascend...., but everyone's path is different.
It stands though that one cannot start the path of ascension until they have balanced there male and female Energies, only then can you give birth to your inner Christ consciousness which helps you transcend duality and master the 3D. When you meet on Earth then there is a uniting of the male and female sides of your Energy with an Energy that is at the same time your equal and a perfect fit for the qualities that you bring to this reality and there is much healing to be done when you first meet and there is new Energy to ground and sometimes even Karma to make sense of if you have met before in previous lives.
There is a certain feeling of completion though. But only in the sense of now you are completely equipped to do what you came here to do. But this completion is just a reflection of the completion that has already taken place on your inner planes.
And hon the physical is reflecting what is above. I am in a male body and yet most of the Energy that animates it is of a feminine polarity. I have had many lives most of which are female with a few being male but I never married in them. My initial split was feminine. My current physical body is male and my twin is male. I have known that since I was born, just as he has known that since he was born.

You must understand that it doesnt matter if you are male of female. The body is just a vehicle for the Energy. Think of the humans born with both genders?

I don't really know why I chose a male body, besides the fact that the maintainence is way less than with the female ones. lol...
There has to be something to the way other humans treat homosexuals though, my reason for choosing this path is linked to that, I will understand more of why shortly...but remember my male body does not mean I do not carry within me the Divine Feminine Energy. One need only glance at my chart to notice that most of my Energy is predominately Water and Earth, with my Fire Sun and Moon being in the 8th and 4th house respectively with my Moon conjunct Neptune as well.

That is a very lovely and powerful mantra you have posted there, believe it or not I used to say these mantras to myself everyday in meditation years before my twin materialized.
And I continue with ones of gratitude now however. So interesting that it was the violet flame that guided me from the very start in connection with the Hather then though....but with every visualization and dream it is present in some form....the most recent being the flame that burns right above my third eye now when I see myself from a third person perspective.
Thank you for sharing Athene...I am excited to watch that flame spread around me and I enjoy passing these mantras along as I am proof that they work.

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Sag Moon
Virgo Asc

posted August 30, 2012 01:35 AM            

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Originally posted by oneruledbymars:
Well, I wish you the best in this journey. If he truly is your twin that would be a first. Lol.. I've read they absolutely have to be male/female. ...................

In this dimension is may be physical, but it does still reflect out spiritual selves. The body form I have chosen to take on in the lifetime I would be reunited with my twin, is a female and he male. The physical always reflects what is above. From my understanding, nothing can be birthed unless the components are there to give birth, and the most important force is the mother. I just don't know why you would have chosen a male body to be united with your twin?

So, I don't know. But either way, I commend you for rising above the material. I Wish you all the riches in the universe."

You are so cute..."If he truly is your twin that would be a first." ....trust me the story is nothing less than a movie. And 3 years later, with even an attempt to run from me of all people.... we understand our connection now. We both know by knowing and our lives reflect that in every way, so I am your first.
There are no absolutes in this world Athenegoddess, the person that has made you think they have to be female and male is probably the reason why I am speaking to you today. Because there are no absolutes...if there is one thing I have learned in this journey it is that.

you wrote also:
"if twins really Do meet now, as alot are in these times to help raise the consciousness of the planet, when they meet they must be ready to ascend and the ascension is where they unite their male/female selves to create completion."

But how would you attract each other if you have not already started on your path to ascension? You do not need your twin to ascend...., but everyone's path is different.
It stands though that one cannot start the path of ascension until they have balanced there male and female Energies, only then can you give birth to your inner Christ consciousness which helps you transcend duality and master the 3D. When you meet on Earth then there is a uniting of the male and female sides of your Energy with an Energy that is at the same time your equal and a perfect fit for the qualities that you bring to this reality and there is much healing to be done when you first meet and there is new Energy to ground and sometimes even Karma to make sense of if you have met before in previous lives.
There is a certain feeling of completion though. But only in the sense of now you are completely equipped to do what you came here to do. But this completion is just a reflection of the completion that has already taken place on your inner planes.
And hon the physical is reflecting what is above. I am in a male body and yet most of the Energy that animates it is of a feminine polarity. I have had many lives most of which are female with a few being male but I never married in them. My initial split was feminine. My current physical body is male and my twin is male. I have known that since I was born, just as he has known that since he was born.

You must understand that it doesnt matter if you are male of female. The body is just a vehicle for the Energy. Think of the humans born with both genders?

I don't really know why I chose a male body, besides the fact that the maintainence is way less than with the female ones. lol...
There has to be something to the way other humans treat homosexuals though, my reason for choosing this path is linked to that, I will understand more of why shortly...but remember my male body does not mean I do not carry within me the Divine Feminine Energy. One need only glance at my chart to notice that most of my Energy is predominately Water and Earth, with my Fire Sun and Moon being in the 8th and 4th house respectively with my Moon conjunct Neptune as well.

That is a very lovely and powerful mantra you have posted there, believe it or not I used to say these mantras to myself everyday in meditation years before my twin materialized.
And I continue with ones of gratitude now however. So interesting that it was the violet flame that guided me from the very start in connection with the Hather then though....but with every visualization and dream it is present in some form....the most recent being the flame that burns right above my third eye now when I see myself from a third person perspective.
Thank you for sharing Athene...I am excited to watch that flame spread around me and I enjoy passing these mantras along as I am proof that they work.

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posted August 30, 2012 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
"Because our gender in this existence doesn't define the Energy that we are. My Energy is feminine in nature and has been since the day I was born despite being a male. In day to day life, well no, you can't tell. Most people have to ask me my sexuality. But it still stands that I am aware of my masculine and feminine sides. The mother/father within me have given birth to my own inner "christ".
So has my twin. So you see gender does not matter if we all contain the necessary balance of feminine and masculine, then we are in position to attract and maintain a twin soul relationship or a soulmate relationship that is at its highest frequency.
In the end Athene ...Energy is genderless...... it has a polarity, yes and it is clear that the feminine side is associated with whats dark, hidden, emotions the divine chaos, while the masculine is associated with what is out in the pen, logical and the nature or structure and order. It is only at this level in the 3D that we tend to define things as masculine and feminine when really those are the two opposite polarities and most of us fall somewhere in between. It is what it is and I am what I am. Your twin though will contain the perfect balance for you and you relationship and how work together will mirror the inner mother/father relationship and reflects its negative and positive qualities.

You ask how we give birth to a new consciousness despite being same sex? Well hon we just do. We raise the consciousness of everyone we come into contact with and we did it long before we met each other, together the nature of that Energy is 10 fold. It is part of our mission and one of our reasons for finally incarnating with each other again."

Well, I wish you the best in this journey. If he truly is your twin that would be a first. Lol.. I've read they absolutely have to be male/female. But I do understand that you are something else from what you were born as. I guess I was trying to understand, if twins really Do meet now, as alot are in these times to help raise the consciousness of the planet, when they meet they must be ready to ascend and the ascension is where they unite their male/female selves to create completion.

In this dimension is may be physical, but it does still reflect out spiritual selves. The body form I have chosen to take on in the lifetime I would be reunited with my twin, is a female and he male. The physical always reflects what is above. From my understanding, nothing can be birthed unless the components are there to give birth, and the most important force is the mother. I just don't know why you would have chosen a male body to be united with your twin?

So, I don't know. But either way, I commend you for rising above the material. I Wish you all the riches in the universe.

here is a little piece to help those looking for their twins.. to help you connect to the mother. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Geq6sKR_I

Decree:

I Invoke my Mighty I Am presence of my highest evolution, the Holy Trinity, the Power of Three; So be it, So mote it be; So it is.

In the name in the I Am that I Am, Saint Germain, Portia, Arcturus, Omri Tas, Kwan Yin, and all cosmic beings and Hierarchs of the violet flame of freedom, I decree:

1. Oh Violet Light free my twin flame
Eradicate past hurt and pain
Release him/her from all Karmic debt
Set free from guilt and all regret

Verse:
Violet Glowing radiant light
Violet fire, merciful might
Raise him/her up, set him/her free
Awaken true reality

2. Oh Violet flame we do adore
The love that makes our souls soar
With heart I make this holy vow
Beloved twin flame set free now

Verse

3. Oh Violet flame transmute all space
Of separation now replace
With harmony of love and light
Communion is my souls delight

Verse

My twin flame is a being of violet fire
my twin flame is the purity god desires (X3)

We accept this prayer manifest in full power right here and now throughout the planet , to bless all souls of light, and transmute all areas of darkness, and infuse all with the Rose Flame of Love.

Almighty I Am, I Am in Me
I Am in thee, Thyself in me
Thy Victorys mine, Thy Hope Divine
God Seals all in pure love sublime
Almighty I AM (X3)

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posted August 30, 2012 11:10 AM            

No person 'made' me think this. It's coming from inside of myself, from my own discernment. The energy is universal.. I did look it up online to confirm afterwards.. to make sure I was right.

"But how would you attract each other if you have not already started on your path to ascension?"

Because it doesn't matter if one isn't awake or not when the call is made for the twin flames to be reunited. If they made this choice before they came to the earth, the will meet the twin regardless of their consciousness at that point.

"It stands though that one cannot start the path of ascension until they have balanced there male and female Energies, only then can you give birth to your inner Christ consciousness which helps you transcend duality and master the 3D. When you meet on Earth then there is a uniting of the male and female sides of your Energy with an Energy that is at the same time your equal and a perfect fit for the qualities that you bring to this reality and there is much healing to be done when you first meet and there is new Energy to ground and sometimes even Karma to make sense of if you have met before in previous lives.
There is a certain feeling of completion though. But only in the sense of now you are completely equipped to do what you came here to do. But this completion is just a reflection of the completion that has already taken place on your inner planes. "

Exactly.

"You must understand that it doesn't matter if you are male of female. The body is just a vehicle for the Energy. Think of the humans born with both genders?"

I don't know. I feel the physical body is literally a reflection on what the soul is. It's the image of God. But either way, I don't want to discourage you.

"I don't really know why I chose a male body, besides the fact that the maintenance is way less than with the female ones. lol...
There has to be something to the way other humans treat homosexuals though, my reason for choosing this path is linked to that, I will understand more of why shortly...but remember my male body does not mean I do not carry within me the Divine Feminine Energy. One need only glance at my chart to notice that most of my Energy is predominately Water and Earth, with my Fire Sun and Moon being in the 8th and 4th house respectively with my Moon conjunct Neptune as well."

That is not what I am saying at all. I believe anyone can attain completion regardless of your sex. I have Moon conjunct Neptune too.

I actually think that I was born to bring the mothers presence back to the earth...

The twin flame is a reflection of the completion one feels on the inside. This kind of completion attracts others like a magnet. So it's a good sign if a person is attracting others to them who are interested in a love relationship..

And the love from the twin flame will be an outer manifestation of the inner completion. Harmoniously complementing each other, in all dimensions and planes of existence.

So he could be your reflection of the completion you feel inside. yet i don't know how complete you truly feel.
But maybe I am wrong and the body isn't really a true reflection of what your soul is in the ascension lifetime.

Also just started thinking about the act of a woman giving birth. She couldn't do it without the man's sperm in the physical dimension. And the Holy Spirit is this act of giving birth in the spiritual dimension.. which in reference to the 'virgin mary', her having given birth the the Christ whilst being a 'virgin'. I Guess this is trying to show us something... but still she couldn't have given birth without the fathers presence in the spiritual i believe.

posted August 30, 2012 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Mary Magdalene is Jesus' twin flame so she was with him.

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Well working from the supposition that Jesus existed. Most scholars who study the Gospel of Thomas agree that if anyone was his Spiritual Twin, it has to be Didymos Judas Thomas... NOT Mary Magdalene

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(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."
And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

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Jesus said, "I am not your master" to Thomas, because Thomas is his Spiritual Equal / Twin etc -nods-

posted August 30, 2012 01:04 PM            

You are overlooking the fact that Thomas was singled out, and taken aside from all others where he received the secret symbolical gnostic teachings, because he was as Illuminatus as Jesus...

Anyhow, you have made up your mind it seems as regards the Jesus/Magdalene situation, just don't throw stones at me, because fire might come out

posted August 30, 2012 01:54 PM            

My response was of considerable length but since you deleted your argument, Ill chalk up a refute of Mary in favor of Thomas... for now

I like your posts, but some things simply "erk" me

posted August 30, 2012 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Jesus said, "I am not your master" to Thomas, because Thomas is his Spiritual Equal / Twin etc -nods-

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posted August 30, 2012 04:47 PM            

"Because it doesn't matter if one isn't awake or not when the call is made for the twin flames to be reunited. If they made this choice before they came to the earth, the will meet the twin regardless of their consciousness at that point."

Have you experienced meeting your twin here in this reality?

"So he could be your reflection of the completion you feel inside. yet i don't know how complete you truly feel.
But maybe I am wrong and the body isn't really a true reflection of what your soul is in the ascension lifetime.

Also just started thinking about the act of a woman giving birth. She couldn't do it without the man's sperm in the physical dimension. And the Holy Spirit is this act of giving birth in the spiritual dimension.. which in reference to the 'virgin mary', her having given birth the the Christ whilst being a 'virgin'. I Guess this is trying to show us something... but still she couldn't have given birth without the fathers presence in the spiritual i believe.

This is how the 3rd dimension tries to copy the Holy Spirit's manifestation.. Women birthing babies left and right.. Lol.."

I feel complete hon.
And I understand your confusion regarding the need for male and female to give birth to a child in the physical plane.
And I totally agree with you.
But this truly is the only dimension where gender is necessary to produce offspring.
I just think its sad that people seemingly in the know of the nature of these relationships would believe that twin flame relationships can only be between a male and a female. Wait til they meet me.

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Aries Sun
Sag Moon
Virgo Asc

posted August 30, 2012 06:03 PM            

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I just think its sad that people seemingly in the know of the nature of these relationships would believe that twin flame relationships can only be between a male and a female.

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To date, I have not felt or read anything to draw this conclusion either. Spirit is genderless and can carry the personality of a gender but the spirit is genderless.

To be male or female is only a requirement in the physical plane.

But, we each need to work it out for ourselves and I respect all who have done the homework on the issue

posted August 31, 2012 03:18 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
We each need to work it out for ourselves and I respect all who have done the homework on the issue

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Id have more respect for people if they used logical, deductive reasoning based off of available real evidence for their conclusion...

I don't mean to offend, because I understand the symbolic and psychological benefits of profound dreams, and esoteric insights. However "dreams" and "knowing in ones heart", just don't cut it as hard evidence for the TRUTH!