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Linda Jones
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posted November 26, 2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear iQ,

Not sure if this is the right forum but I'm taking your lead from your thread on dangers of premature Kundalini release. Please feel free to move the thread if you like.

I've described a couple of my experiences in another thread and wanted to know your opinion on whether they are possibly the result of kundalini awakening.

So far I've not done any in-depth study on the topic and do not fully understand how certain meditation practices can lead to the release of Kundalini.

The experiences I've had, and continue to have intermittently, are not in my control. They just happen. I've never been in a meditative state just prior to having an experience.

What has been consistent with me is a spiritual discipline from childhood, introduced to me by my Mother, a practice that is a very intrinsic part of my daily life.

Here are the two experiences--

Experience 1:

The first one happened when I was doing my Fellowship at a very prestigious (world famous) research institution. The reason I mention this is because the atmosphere in this place is extremely competitive and cutthroat. Basically, if you don’t produce you’re out.

I was seated at my desk in front of a computer looking at the screen. Suddenly it seemed as though the desk, computer, my cubicle, all the objects around me began to get “pulled away” from me so it felt like I was at a distance from these solid structures. Then I recall having the feeling that I was no longer at my desk but hovering somewhere above, near the ceiling. This was followed by the disappearance or pulling away of all the walls (including the ceiling). I felt like I was able to look at/see into the entire floor of the building. Then I had the sensation of being able to “see” practically the whole building-as though the whole building was “exposed” with no barriers from solid objects.

While all this was happening, I began to feel or “pick up” on emotions-first from my room, then the floor, and then the whole building (it seemed). There seemed to be only ONE principal emotion, though, that of PAIN. And the “source” of the pain appeared to lie within the interactions between the people there; like the people were acting with one another in ways that caused hurt and pain. But there was so much of it that I felt overwhelmed. The sensation I had was akin to being exposed to something very acute and sharp so as to cause a soul-deep wincing within me.

And then suddenly, just like that it was all over. I was back at my desk and the walls fell back in place. I remember thinking, “Phew! That was WEIRD.” Because I knew I’d not budged from my desk. Yet the experience and what I “felt” during it was also very real. I also remember wondering briefly how long I was “gone” or “absent” from “reality.” But I had no concept of the time it took to experience this. It could have been a few seconds or several minutes. A part of me felt frustrated with not knowing how much time had elapsed as though if I knew that, I would somehow be able to understand what really happened.

A week or so after this incident, I mentioned it to two friends-a much older married couple that was pretty spiritual. They felt I’d had a “revelation.”

For about one year and a half after this incident, I noticed I would cry very easily at the slightest hint of unkindness between people, either in real life or even on TV! It became so that I had to become very careful about what I watched, who I interacted with, and basically what I exposed my mind to as I would become so easily overwhelmed. I was unsure whether I was going through a prolonged period of depression or what it would take to get me out of it.

The experience has left me changed forever. To this day, I'm unable to watch any type of gore on TV, films (including vampire shows, movies, etc.,), read about it in magazines, etc. I have to severely restrict what energy I expose myself to in my environment pretty much at all times.


Experience 2:

Blessed relief from my above pain came after about a year and a half in the form of a subsequent experience. I was not yet done processing the previous experience, when I had another one. This one was completely the opposite of the first, as it had to do with love rather than pain.

It was evening time and I had been reading a book outside in the back of the house. As darkness increased, I decided to come in and get ready for work the next day. I went upstairs to the bedroom, put the book by the bedside, and briefly sat on the edge of the bed to think about things I would need for the following day.

And suddenly I "saw" a blinding flash of light (it felt more like I "saw" the flash with my mind's eye rather than my physical eyes). I felt as though I was struck by a high voltage charge of electric current, which went through my entire body--from head to toe. I felt a tingling in my fingertips as though I'd touched a live wire. I felt almost burned by the current. And then my heart began to race until it was pounding as if I’d just completed a 100 m dash. I could actually feel my pulse throbbing in my head, my ears, my arms, stomach, and legs. I began gasping for air as though I wasn't getting enough oxygen in my lungs. I couldn’t understand what had happened, just felt like I couldn’t breathe. So I ran downstairs and out to the backyard where I stood for several minutes just taking in deep gulps of fresh air. The physiological changes accompanying this experience took more than an hour to stabilize.

When I came back inside I felt a strong urge to ask someone about this, about what had happened to me. There was a pastor I wanted to speak with, but since it was late in the evening he was unavailable.

The next morning even before I was fully awake, I knew there was something different about me. I felt different, lighter, with a kind of peace within me that I hadn’t ever experienced before. It wasn’t happiness or elation, just a huge, great calm inside me. Most noticeable was the absence of ANY stress, worry, anxiety, sadness, or pain. Just a light feeling of walking on air. I remember thinking, “This is what Heaven must feel like.” (I call this experience “bliss” and began to recognize it as such in later incidents when I was “sent into” the same level of peace. I say, “sent into” because I’m not consciously doing anything myself to bring this about). I also knew (without having spoken to anyone about it) that I had been touched by an energy field of pure love. It was the purity of it that initially felt like I was being burned, while the energy field had felt like an electric current going though me. (This is according to my limited understanding. I've so far not met anyone who could explain to me what happened).

The above experience of “bliss” lasted for about 4 days. During this time several strangely good things happened. The first morning my car wouldn’t start so I walked (less than a mile) to work. Normally my car not starting in the morning would freak me out, but that day it didn’t bother me at all. I handled the whole day in a very high stress environment feeling nothing but peace. As I walked back that evening I had a strong feeling my car would start if I tried it before going into the house. And sure enough, it did. There was a water pipe under one of the bathroom sinks that had a slow drip and I was meaning to have that looked at. During my period of bliss, the pipe stopped leaking. I’d had a tiff with my sister a couple of weeks prior, and she’d said some hurtful things to me in anger. During the “bliss,” I not only knew she would apologize, but knew the exact words she would use in her apology. She sent me a card with the exact same words! Everything in life seemed to be extraordinarily smooth and peaceful. And yes throughout it I was aware of “being in heaven.”

On the 4th morning, even before I was fully awake, I knew I had lost my “bliss”. My pre-bliss life had returned except that it felt very heavy this time around.

Through the above 2 and some of my other subsequent experiences I understood first hand (not just from books or scriptures, or intellect) that the cause of almost all human suffering is human selfishness and ego and the only antidote to pain is pure love. That pure love can heal not just the soul but also the human body, as well as the bodies of inanimate objects like a car or a leaky pipe.

I’ve tried to figure out (unsuccessfully) what causes these experiences. I admit that there’s a sort of hunger in me to “know” more and experience more (especially the “bliss”). Hence my desire to figure out my state of mind, or what I might be doing to contribute to them. But I’m still clueless about the cause.

My "bliss" experiences are characterized not just by a supreme state of peace, but also by an absence of any pain, worry, fear, or stress. It is not that I'm no longer aware of the existence of these. In fact I'm fully aware of things that have happened in my past that have caused me pain (for example). But while the bliss lasts, I'm unaffected by this pain or any negativity. Together these two characteristics, supreme peace and complete absence of negativity, create The Supreme Sublime in which I revel as long as the experience lasts.

iQ, if you think these are kundalini release experiences, and not just revelations, would it be possible for me to make them happen at will by carefully following certain meditative practices?

Thank you. I'm grateful for your time and any guidance you can offer

And sorry for making you read so many words as I know you’re busy.

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posted November 27, 2012 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, I forgot to mention this in my earlier post. Don't know if it's important for your assessment.

After my 2nd experience (above), subsequent experiences of "slipping into" the "bliss" state are not accompanied by the physiological changes that I experienced above.

I could be on the phone and just slip into bliss, right after finishing my conversation. Or I could be working at my computer and slip into bliss, with none of the strange (maybe even scary?) changes like racing heart, suffocation, etc.

It is because my bliss experiences (after the one described above) seem effortless, that I don't feel afraid about re-experiencing this level. And this is why I asked if there was a way I could re-experience this level through careful practice.

Also, I wanted to add that it is perhaps impossible to actually explain my experiences so as to do full justice to what really happened, but I've tried my best so you can have an idea.

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posted November 28, 2012 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some more info--

After experience 1, I noticed (despite my emotional turmoil) that unexpectedly good things happened to me at my place of Fellowship in terms of recognition of my work.

There was even a trip that I was sent on (the person initially selected dropped out at the last minute), that had greater ramifications than just work. It was to a place that I had a secret wish to go ... so that I could see a teenage girl who had been in a coma for more than 10 years, and who had been talked about widely as being a saint. I got to personally see the miracles that were occurring in their house.

There were other things that would happen/materialize after I'd merely thought about them.

After experience 2, my creative expression surged a 100 fold. I write poetry (some has been published because of awards I've won). During the 4 days of bliss, it seemed that in every waking minute, my mind was churning out new poems complete with titles. New ideas for various things were unstoppable. I felt gloriously inspired as I never had before. The feeling of being completely and constantly surrounded by a blanket of Pure Love was sheer ecstasy! So wanting to return to this state at will, or even be in it constantly is I think understandable.

Even before the 2 experiences that I've described, strange things had begun to happen to me for quite some time prior.

For example, I once saw a horizontal band of light in my room in the middle of the night. For some reason I had been unable to sleep, so was laying in bed with my eyes open. The room was pitch dark, windows closed, shades drawn, and no street light was entering the room. Then in the darkest corner of the room I saw the horizontal band of light, about 6 inches wide, golden in color, stretching from one wall for a few feet into the room. I closed my eyes and opened them again to still see the band.

When I asked my spiritual friends about this, I was told I was "on Holy ground." This didn't make sense to me because if one thinks of God as omnipresent, then all ground created by Him is Holy.

Anyway, I could go on describing other events, but I'll stop now.

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posted November 29, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Linda,
The more I delve into Kundalini Shakti, the more clear it is to me that everything that exists OUTSIDE of God is a result of Duality of SIVA and SHAKTI. SIVA = Spiritual Consciousness made of Thoughts, numbers, wave formulae and algorithms. SHAKTI = Matter. Physical Matter, Etheric/Auric Matter, Astral Matter, Hyperspace Matter, close to Vacuum Matter. Life is the Interplay of Siva-Sakti.

Siva as a Mathematical Set contains the algorithms for Chakras. Sacral Chakra will have an algoirithm, Pineal Chakra will have an algorithm etc. Likewise, the structure of DNA Helix is a subset from Siva.
The atomic structure is a subset from Siva.

Shakti decides how the CHakra manifests. How it feels when spinning. How it manifests in the DNA Manifested Body when it spins fast or slow or gets blocked. The Chakra, the spinning, the body and the flow of Prana are all different levels of Kundalini Shakti.
The Intelligent Conclusion from Experiences of different realms and dimensions of Shakti again becomes a subset of Siva.


Now, if you are still awake :
Experience 1:= Subtle Kundalini flow into the 6th Chakra at a time when you were in a semi-trance that allowed your Mind access to the 4th D Astral. On its way back, the Kundalini activated your Heart Chakra to the next level of spin [higher frequency]. Hence the extra emotional stirrings. Depression is low frequency, will occur if Kundalini is blocked in the heart chakra and there is lack of love.

Experience 2: Small dose of Kundalini went through the Sushummna Channel into the Crown Chakra. Hence the bliss. Hence the sensation of knowing through knowing, connectedness etc.

Physiological side effects need not repeat, Kundalini is an intelligent energy. It would have fixed the Nadis or etheric nerves in the first flow. The next time you will sense bigger physiological changes if more Kundalini flows.

This is safe. 10% flow is enough to make life a little topsy turvy. I got hit with a 10% flow, all chakras except Crown. Dont ask me how I am quantifying, I just "know b by knowing"
My Crown never got more than 1% so far.
6th Chakra may have received 20%-30% too at times but it has stopped now. I had to make it stop by grounding, eating meat like an animal and working out like a beast. My bodyweight is 97 kg now, up from 70 kg during premature kundalini rise. The extra 27 kilos of muscle helps keep the Kundalini busy. For how long, I do not know. I know I am not ready for 100% at the Pineal or Crown.

Even 20% regular at the Pineal will take us to a different simultaneous/past life every dream. With higher percentage flow, we will get dreams within dreams, or past recalls within a past life recalls or OBES when re-experiencing a past life, from that past life. And we can feel every emotion within the present body. Suddenly we will see future events, boring as well as dramatic.
Did we see a future vision from a past life perspective or present? Or Did we recall seeing a future vision from a past life? Mazes and Mazes and Mazes, and then waking up confused about present reality, especially when we know who the present characters were in the past/parallel. All this without LSD/DMT/Pot

This is why Ancient Masters advise the presence of a Kundalini Realized Guru before students awaken Kundalini. If any person has afflicted Neptune, I will give a written guarantee that this person will be in a lunatic asylum if he attempts Kundalini Yoga without a guru.
For Kundalini Magnifies when awoken and blocked. The Energy will want to be "Fed" with more experiences. This is why rich get richer with Kundalini Awakened. Greed is magnified in the 3rd Chakra. They may never get enough of sports cars. They will have 15-20 of them, even though the Spiritual "Siva" mind says one sports car can feed ten thousand African orphans for one year or educate a thousand orphans for many years.
When 2nd Chakra is awoken and blocked,they could become obsessive sex perverts, serial killers etc.

First attempt must clear the Heart Chakra and not fall back lower than Heart, for Human Good.

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posted November 30, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, THANK YOU!!! Every word you’ve written contains a volume of information.

I had to look up some terms and the location of the different charkas. But your succinct explanation of the domains of Shiva and Shakti is just right for a novice like me to follow. I hadn’t yet delved into the subject because the field seems so vast, so quite frankly, I didn’t know where to even begin.

“ Life is the Interplay of Siva-Sakti.” I finally understand this. Shiva thinks it, and Shakti creates or manifests it (makes it happen).

“ Shakti decides how the CHakra manifests. How it feels when spinning. How it manifests in the DNA Manifested Body when it spins fast or slow or gets blocked. The Chakra, the spinning, the body and the flow of Prana are all different levels of Kundalini Shakti.” I get this now after reading Alloya’s article on dancing with the Kundalini.

“Now, if you are still awake Thank you, this made me smile. Love the pun here, in an otherwise serious topic.

“Depression is low frequency, will occur if Kundalini is blocked in the heart chakra and there is lack of love.” You’ve cleared this too for me. You see I wasn’t sure I was depressed, as I did not have any other clinical symptoms other than crying frequently. I now know that the crying was par for the course in the kundalini awakening.

“Hence the extra emotional stirrings.” Good to now be able to see my emotional turmoil in perspective. At that time of course, I felt like … well … confused, perplexed, scared (because I wasn’t “me”), and emotionally fragile.

Thank you for sharing your own example of kundalini awakening.

“The next time you will sense bigger physiological changes if more Kundalini flows.” “The extra 27 kilos of muscle helps keep the Kundalini busy.” From what you’ve said (as well as Alloya), muscle mass is important to handle the surge of Shakti. My work out regimen includes cardio 6X, resistance 3X, as well as a fair amount of yard work whenever I can find the time. My TF (who’s an athlete) says that my muscle strength is clear above average for women. Still, it won’t hurt to consciously do more to build especially upper body strength (which is usually less in women). Yard work has helped me build more muscle power than anything else, so I’ll make time for more of that from now on. I’d like to be prepared for the next time.

“My bodyweight is 97 kg now” 213 pounds!!! Do you know you could be a football player in the US and make millions? But with all the head butting that goes on in football here, of course there’s no guarantee that your 6th and 7th charkas will remain safe, despite helmet protection

“Dont ask me how I am quantifying, I just "know b by knowing" Yeah, the “knowing by knowing” is quite familiar to me.

“Even 20% regular at the Pineal will take us to a different simultaneous/past life every dream.” “…then waking up confused about present reality, especially when we know who the present characters were in the past/parallel. All this without LSD/DMT/Pot ” Yes I get these types of dreams. Just yesterday, I dreamed (during theta brain activity) of a woman and a man (I knew them in the dream, but don’t know them in my real life). Both were about to set out on a road journey and they both told me (separately … first the woman and then the man) that they had severe back pain. They asked me for advice about how to handle their back pain. BTW, people showing me problems in their backs are quite frequent in my dreams. Some of these people are familiar to me in real life (and are usually amazed when they corroborate my dreams), others are familiar just in my dreams. Past life recalls … future … I don’t know.

“This is why Ancient Masters advise the presence of a Kundalini Realized Guru before students awaken Kundalini.” Agreed. I understand the importance of this. However, if kundalini awakens without my trying, I think the best I can do is be prepared by educating myself.

“If any person has afflicted Neptune, I will give a written guarantee that this person will be in a lunatic asylum if he attempts Kundalini Yoga without a guru.” I have several Neptune contacts to my inner planets. So I’ve looked at contacts to my Mercury, which I want to post in the asteroids forum (in a day or two) for you to look at to see if my mind is strong enough.

“This is why rich get richer with Kundalini Awakened. Greed is magnified in the 3rd Chakra.” Thanks for the insight as I’ve always wondered about this. I’ve absolutely no problem with people becoming rich, just as long as they don’t do it at the expense of others through cheating (talking about those who make over a million).

I’m still mulling over so I’ll be back.

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posted December 06, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, I had the most remarkable experience last night. Actually it was after midnight, so technically it was in today’s date. Again, because I still haven’t read up on it enough, I was unprepared for it, which is a complete bummer!

Just before falling off to sleep I was having a conversation with Goddess Parvati, whom I personify as Shakti. I usually have a conversation with God every night and, in the few minutes just before falling asleep I pour out everything that’s inside me … my experiences during the day, my feelings, thoughts, ideas I have, etc., all of it. Why? Well … I figure He’s going to be up all night anyway, so why not, LOL.

But for the last few days (since your confirmation of my experiences as being part of Kundalini awakening), I’ve been talking with Goddess Parvati. So last night, just before falling asleep, I was telling Her that I’d like to be able to speak with Her to understand everything better, and if it meant having a full blown Kundalini awakening experience, I’m all for it, except that I was a bit (ok more than a bit) afraid of the fear-inducing side effects of having my mind and body get all whacked out. I told Her about the articles I’d read on premature kundalini awakening, and said that frankly, I didn’t know what to do. But, I said, I still wanted to speak with her, and if She could come up with a way to talk to me without my having to go through any scary stuff, then I’d be game.

Somewhere in the course of my conversation, I must have fallen into either a theta wave sleep or just zoned out briefly, because the next thing (once I stopped talking), that happened was … I heard the most incredible music I’ve ever heard in my life! I’m very, very receptive to music generally (maybe due to the strong Venus influence in my chart) and usually get chills when I hear something that touches me. But what I heard last night was something else! I couldn’t even have imagined that such a sound existed, let alone that I would get to hear it.

It flowed so smoothly that I cannot imagine a human producing such a sound. And then, because I was unprepared, I did something I regret. Instead of going with the flow and continuing to listen, I jerked my head off of my pillow, wide-awake, trying to figure out where the sound was coming from. And it stopped. A bit confused, I checked to see if I’d left my music on, or if my neighbors had theirs on. Nope! I tried to imprint the sound in my memory so that I could recall it later. Even before I finally fell asleep I knew that what I felt I’d “heard” was incorrect as I didn’t hear the sound with my ears. It was more like I felt it within me … like I’d felt that music from inside me rather than actually “heard” it with my ears from outside. It’s difficult to explain because despite this, it was definitely a sound and it was music, of that I’m sure.

Also, I couldn’t initially make out the instrument producing the sound. It felt like a combination of instruments—flute, piano, guitar, and maybe something else too. The last thought I had before falling asleep was that I would look up to see if Kundalini Shakti was connected to music in any way. And if I didn’t find anything on it, I told myself I’d ask you about it.

Today I researched it and sure enough I came across descriptions of people hearing music as one of the effects of Kundalini awakening. I again chided myself because if I'd read about this sooner, I would’ve not been startled last night and allowed myself to continue to experience it.

I also think that the whole experience is a confirmation that Goddess Parvati heard me when I said I wanted to speak with Her without anything scary happening. She responded by communicating through music, something that I’m obviously not afraid of. But I botched the chance of maximizing the experience.

Anyway, I just wanted to share this experience with you and anyone else reading. As I continue to read more on the topic, I’ve even trimmed down the number of initial questions I wanted to ask you. But I’ll eventually come back with specific questions I cannot myself find answers for, or things I don’t understand because I don’t have complete perspective.

As far as this experience is concerned, I don't want to analyze it too much, but I did want to know if it is the result of a small amount of Kundalini shooting up to the Crown Chakra? Thank you for reading and answering.


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posted December 07, 2012 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Parvati, Lakshmi, Saraswati and all documented goddesses in any mythological Pantheon are different aspects of Kundalini Shakti. The personification by Human Practitioners allows us a more tangibke way of communicating with our own Kundalini.
So when you chose to release your feelings to goddess Parvati, the "Nada" sound, associated with Siva would have been triggered. This means a small amount of Kundalini Energy did enter the 6th Chakra Ear Region, than Pineal Gland.

In the coming days, you might feel stronger Crown Chakra awareness. More seeing of lights in dreams, you might see Energies which manifest as "Angels" or "Aliens" depending on your Mental Map. If you see Palaces, it is a very good sign, it is rising to a Higher Evolutionary Stage due to more consistent Kundalini Flow.


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posted December 07, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, thank you for explaining ^ as well as for the links on your other thread. I'd already discovered Jan Esmann's site and found it to be very comprehensive. Your posting the link confirms that it's a good site.

You mentioned "nada." I have Mercury conjunct nada in natal.

Here's what you said about Nada--

"Asteroid Nada as the place in our chart where we finetune our ability to listen to the "Music of Spheres". For those into yoga, this Asteroid can tell the practitioner when and how to listen to the "Aum Sound" in deep meditative states or during Kundalini Rise."

Sounds like this is what happened during my experience! Another confirmation of one of my experiences with an aspect in my chart. I'll definitely need to post my aspects to Mercury, all newly discovered after starting this thread. Must say I'm learning a tremendous amount of astrology by finding connections between chart aspects and my spiritual experiences.

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IQ, if you could please bear with me, I wanted to ask you some questions, which are interlaced below with comments. Please feel free to correct me at any point, if you feel I’ve not understood correctly. I’ve been reading up on the subject, especially after your confirmation of my experiences as partial Kundalini awakening. Some of the questions may be trivial or naïve … sophisticated word for dumb but … here goes.

~ “First attempt must clear the Heart Chakra and not fall back lower than Heart, for Human Good.” From my experiences (described above), does it seem to you that I cleared the heart chakra in the first attempt? (Except that I wasn’t trying, it just happened). If my heart chakra were blocked, would I have experienced far more devastating effects in my life? Also, once awakened, does the kundalini not fall back to the base of the spine, after clearing out all the blocks in the entire energetic system, and transforming the individual? Or does the kundalini melt and fuse with Shiva at the crown chakra and the result of this fusion is what drops down to all parts of the energetic system, thus enabling the individual to perform at his/her highest divine potential?

~ Alloya describes being very conscious of her kundalini movement not only through each chakra but also through the nadis. Mine however, seems to have shot up straight to the crown. Does the conscious awareness of the ascent of Kundalini depend on the amount of kundalini awakened? So next time if I have a bigger kundalini surge I’m more likely to feel it moving through the lower charkas? Or does this come from developing a special awareness of the vibration of its movement?

~ “ 10% flow is enough to make life a little topsy turvy.” As far as you can tell, does it seem like mine was about 10%? And how much do you think went to the crown in experience 2 … less than 1%?

~ The kundalini is a primordial dormant energy that remains coiled at the base of the spine until awakened, when it uncoils to bring about spiritual transformation and enlightenment. I understand this. But I don’t understand the connection of the kundalini to the earth ... the way Alloya mentions it in her experience. She mentions that under the direction of the Goddess, she feels the serpent rise from the earth through the soles of her feet and up her legs. I know that Kundalini Shakti is a gift from Gaia (the Soul of the Earth) given to each of us. But during activation, why does the energy have to come up from the earth and move up the legs, if it is already dormant at the base of the spine and uncoils from that spot?

~ You’ve mentioned elsewhere that grounding exercises like walking barefoot on grass, and hugging trees can help one do to anchor oneself. Do these have to be done only during the period of kundalini activation or can they also be done prior to an episode as part of preparation?

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~ Do you remember my natal stars of David I’d asked you about? Well, I now understand the significance of the one GT (Rudra, Shiva, and Saturn) pointing to the sky (Shiva) and the other GT (Parvati, Kaali, and Neptune/Soulie) to the earth (Shakti). And I also understand the fuller meaning of the Mystical Marriage (between Shiva and Shakti) that would be potentially indicated by the two GTs in any star of David. This Mystical Marriage would be the result of full kundalini awakening, when the kundalini rises up to meet Shiva at the crown chakra. My comprehension of all this in connection with my chart is even more mind blowing! And it all began with my Buddha dream and it’s interpretation!

~ I also now completely understand my dream in which the Child Parvati held my face in both hands and said twice, “Parvati is coming, Parvati is coming.” Not only was the entire dream an analogy of the relationship between my TF and I (since he was also in the dream) as being potentially representative of the Mystical Marriage (though obviously on a much smaller, human scale) … but the words, “Parvati is coming,” have to specifically do with Kundalini awakening … “Parvati” meaning Shakti and “coming” meaning awakening.

~ While reading, I came across the terms “bliss” and “love-bliss” to describe the meeting of Shakti with Shiva at the crown chakra. From my earlier experiences described above (experience 2), I’d already begun to refer to my state as bliss, without even knowing what Kundalini awakening is. So this is another example of “knowing from just knowing.”

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~ Some proponents of yoga say that the essence of the pineal gland (location of 7th chakra) and the pituitary gland (location of 6th chakra) must combine in order to have the third eye open … that the vibrations from the two are necessary to bring about this result. So, in the absence of the 7th chakra activation but in the presence of the 6th chakra activation, would it be fair to say that an individual has not yet reached Self-Realization, which is the domain of the third eye, or the Eye of the Soul (said to be located a bit in front of the 6th chakra)? So third eye opening is the result of the Mystical Marriage between Shiva and Shakti after full Kundalini awakening?

~ I read that the Kundalini is half the width of the pinky finger and 12 centimeters or 4.72 inches in length? Is this true, as in, has the Kundalini been quantified in physical dimensions?

~ Shiva is shown to have a serpent coiled around his neck 3 and one half times. Is this because the Kundalini is also coiled similarly at the base of the spine?

~ Through my own experience, Kundalini feels like a powerful electric current. Would you know if there’s any hypothesis (or actual research) on quantifying the charge in kundalini? I wonder if it’s powerful enough to equal the energy output of several nuclear reactors. I tried searching it and couldn’t find anything.

~ Are the kriya movements during kundalini activation, in any way related to the Dance of Shiva?

~ You mentioned that right now you don’t feel ready for 100% Crown Chakra activation. Once you feel you’re ready for it, would you be willing to receive Shaktipat (for anyone else reading this thread, Shaktipat is the gift of full Kundalini awakening one can receive from a Self-Realized Guru) from an enlightened Guru? Or do you think that will not be necessary? Also would you trust yourself to receive long distance Shaktipat, or would you prefer to physically be in the presence of the Guru during full awakening? I’m wondering about the efficacy of kundalini activation from a distance even though theoretically it seems very likely, given the nature of the subject.

~ Do you think that kundalini awakening can also happen in those of mixed DNA like reptilian for example, or those races that do not have the best interests of the human race?


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~ In the course of my readings, I came across a couple of quotes that I liked very much and I’d like to share them—

Swami Vivekananda sums up the whole question of kundalini as a Universal
Phenomena when he states,

"When, by the power of long internal meditation, the vast mass of energy stored up, travels along the Sushumna and strikes the chakras, the reaction is immensely more intense than any reaction of sense perception. Wherever there was any manifestation of what is ordinarily called supernatural power or wisdom, there … a little current of kundalini must have found its way into the Sushumna."

"Merge in the Maha Shakti. This is enough to take away your misfortune. This will carve out of you a woman. Woman needs her own Shakti, not anybody else will do it… When a woman chants the Kundalini Bhakti mantra, God clears the way. This is not a religion, it is a reality. Woman is not born to suffer, and woman needs her own power.”
“When India and Indian women knew this mantra, it dwelt in the land of milk and honey.”

~ Yogi Bhajan (Harbhajan Singh)

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posted December 07, 2012 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, I've posted my Mercury contacts here--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001561.html

If you could please look them over, I'd be extremely grateful.

As I said my Natal Neptune is making several aspects to my inner planets. So I think I need to have a strong Mercury to counter Neptune's effect.

I also want to add that despite my Neptune aspects, I don't smoke, drink, or do drugs. Never have. Although I like the taste of wine and champagne very much (I've tried them a few times), I don't like the idea of something (anything) controlling my mind. So these have never held any appeal for me. Never felt the desire to even try drugs.

I think Neptune affects my dreams, intuition, and what I pick up from my environment ... to which I'm very sensitive. But that's about it. Oh and I'm pretty sure it keeps me on a bit of a "high" with my TF Being in his presence alone (without a single word exchanged) is enough to send me on a Neptune trip. I know ... pathetically giddy, right? But there you have it, that's me.

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Music of the spheres.

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Music of the spheres.


Yes. I love that phrase. I’d often wondered how the cosmos or the Universe would sound if the peeps over at NASA were able to somehow capture it and relay it to earthlings. Now I know, so no need to wonder anymore

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In the coming days, you might feel stronger Crown Chakra awareness. More seeing of lights in dreams, you might see Energies which manifest as "Angels" or "Aliens" depending on your Mental Map. If you see Palaces, it is a very good sign, it is rising to a Higher Evolutionary Stage due to more consistent Kundalini Flow.

Not sure if dreaming about churches is indicative of moving in the right direction, but, here’s the dream I had two days ago (Dec 8). I was walking with a few people (one woman and 2 men) on a cobbled street. I knew these people as friends in my dream but do not know them in real life. We all set out to get movie tickets. We come upon this area of 4 churches, each named with a single letter—N, S, E, W, standing for a direction … so S for South, etc.

The woman suddenly makes a beeline for a doorway that is connected to a flight of steps going down below ground level. She urges us to follow her. One of the guys does. The 2nd guy disappears in some other direction. I’m left standing on the street, hesitating. Finally I decide to go down the steps to take a look. I find myself in the interior of a church (named S for South) with a few people seated, waiting for the service to begin. The woman (my friend) is also seated and she motions for me to join her. I don’t feel like being in this place so I turn around and come back up the stairs to the outside.

Back out on the street again, I think to myself that even if all 4 of us have separated, I’ll go for the movie by myself, as I really didn’t feel like going to any church. I guess my Jupiter is always urging me to play LOL. So I head for a flight of stairs that takes me in the upward direction to a portion of a building that I know sells tickets. But when I reach the top of the stairs, I find myself seated in the interior of another church, this one named E (for East). I like the feeling of being in this church more than the other one, so I decide to wait for the service to begin. Here the dream ends.

I wonder if being in the East church has to do with my kundalini awakening experiences and my conversations with Goddess Parvati, which are in the eastward direction and also have to do with eastern thought.

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iQ, you mentioned that in the coming days I would have more Crown Chakra activation. I experienced 3 new physiological symptoms this weekend and I don’t know if they have to do with what you said—

1) Hearing a drum beat in my left ear. For the past couple of months or so I’d noticed a greater sensitivity in my ears, but I didn’t pay too much attention, aside from noting that it was happening.

--I’ve always been sensitive to loud sounds and noises, including harsh sounding voices with discordant pitch and tone. They grate on my hearing. For example, I enjoy watching football and try to catch games on TV if my favorite teams are playing. But I find that some game commentators have harsh sounding voices, which grate on my hearing so much that I have to mute the volume to continue enjoying the game. (Of course I cannot do this if I’m with friends).

--So a coupla months ago when my ears began to feel even more sensitive, I just connected it to my general way of being. At that time the drumbeat was quite faint, and felt more like a flutter. But this past weekend, the sound grew loud enough and insistent enough that I finally realized it was connected to Kundalini symptoms. It was louder in my left ear and seemed to be coming from inside me than outside. My hearing hasn’t been affected at all, just a greater sensitivity to loud noises than usual. Also, I can now intermittently “feel” real life sounds actually moving from outside through my auditory canal before hitting my eardrum.

--The drum beat sound is much more consistently present since this weekend. Also, the sound got really loud just before bedtime and, as I lay down, my left ear became hot and it felt like steam or hot air was coming out of the ear. I usually blush easily and, when that happens, I feel my entire face and ears getting hot. This time though, the “heating” was restricted to just the left ear lobe, aside from the fact that I had no reason to blush.

2) Next morning when I woke up, the first thing I did was stretch my entire body while still in bed. In the middle of my stretch, my left leg jerked several times, one after the other, and then stopped. I’ve never had this happen before. During the jerking, my leg lifted involuntarily from the bed a bit, and then fell back when the jerking stopped.

Both 1) and 2) happened on the left side of my body. Would you know of any particular reason this happened only on one side?

3) Intermittently, since this weekend, I’ve felt my scalp tingle and can feel my pulse beating at the top of my head, which I normally don’t feel.

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The other thing that happened this weekend was a psycho spiritual state where I experienced a tremendous degree of detachment from all worldly things, including relationships … far more than ever before (not counting my bliss states).

Simultaneously, I also felt a very high degree of compassion and empathy that surpassed previously experienced levels (again not counting my bliss). It felt very healing, like a great amount of weight had lifted off of me, so that I felt physically lighter than previously achieved levels of “lightness.”

At the same time I felt a “void” … a feeling of emptiness where the previous burden had existed. This emptiness didn’t feel like depression. It was more like a portion of my mind (or consciousness) had been freed from prior shackles. This “free” place in my mind is what I experienced as a void.

I’m intuitively aware that I’m not completely “burden free” yet, but some sort of a “process” seems to be taking place inside me (in a sort of a progression), at the physical, mental, emotional, psychological, and spiritual levels … and if it continues, I know I will eventually become completely “burden free.”

All of these changes are happening without my doing anything to make them happen. So thus far they’re spontaneous.

My nervousness about the potential physiological and mental effects hasn’t left me, and I’m depending on the pact I made with Goddess Parvati in which I asked that I not be overwhelmed by the sudden unleashing of Kundalini unless I can handle it (which I know I can’t). So the slow pace is preferable.

Anyway, I wanted to mention all this since you said on my other thread that every step must be taken carefully. (The only thing is that I’m not taking any step consciously).

And I guess, by letting you know, I feel less alarmed and afraid of what’s happening. Continuing to read about it also lessens my fear. I can, and have been, telling some people close to me, but it’s different, as they have not experienced the same thing. So while I love them for trying to understand, I know they don’t have much of a clue to what’s going on.

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posted December 12, 2012 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is definitely more Kundalini Energy reaching the crown. I have sensed the tingles and pulses several times in the forehead and left temple. Left Wrist would heat up many times. Standard Kundalini Symptom.
However, no involuntary movements so far.
(I would not like such involuntary movements considering my physical strength!)

Involuntary movement in the left leg is flow of excess Kudalini into Right Brain Motor region. It has not gone fully to the Crown Chakra. This is a warning sign of imbalance.
Tactic to be used is activation of Left Brain by breathing through the right nostril deeply till you feel calmness dominate anxiety.

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Yes, and thank you for the pointer. I feel like the imbalance was created by my anxiety at hearing the loud drum beat in my left ear just before going to sleep the previous night (at least I hope it's due to no more than that).

Next morning when my leg moved involuntarily, I felt it was connected to my state of mind from the previous night. Instead of putting my entire trust in Goddess Parvati and "letting it happen," I tensed up and began to worry.

Another symptom I've felt many times in the past is the head pressure thingy. I've always put it down to changes in atmospheric pressure, which is another thing I'm sensitive to. (Going up and down in elevators for even a couple of floors causes me to feel pressure in the head). So I've pretty much shrugged it off in the past. Now (since this weekend) I know that this too (when it happens for no apparent reason) is connected with Crown Chakra activation.


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More symptoms—All evening yesterday I felt a pressure in my forehead, causing a bit of a headache.

Toward nighttime the headache was gone and the pressure became localized to the center of the forehead.

After I’d turned in for the night, I first felt an electrical zap in the sole of my left foot. It felt like it was going in a circle. Then the pulse in the instep of the left foot began to throb strongly. I did the right nostril breathing about a dozen times. The energy settled down to a tingling in the left foot and the pulse calmed down, though I could still feel it.

I continued with the right nose breathing. Then the same thing happened to my right foot, though on a much smaller scale. I could also feel my left ear pulsing and the sound of the drum beat. The pressure in the center of my forehead stayed till I fell asleep.

Not sure why I felt the slight electric shock in the soles of my feet.

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Electrical sensations in the feet necessitate some grounding. Visualization of golden brown color going from your Root Chakra and Legs all the way to the Core of the Earth is very useful. Along with that, a few minutes walk on the beach or garden soil or even grass will help. Dipping feet in a bucket of warm Sea Salt or Rock Salt solution should also help.

When the pressure changes direction, you have to switch the nostril breathing exercise.

You must also increase the intake of C, E, water soluble Beta Carotene and and the entire B vitamin family because these vitamins assist in efficient neurobiochemistry. Organic Selenium, Magnesium, Zinc and Copper are also needed to replesnih the enyzmes that could take a beating during Kundalini movements.
Himalayan "Shilajit" will help.

This article has a wonderful explanation on the importance of diet during Kundalini Rise: http://www.aypsite.org/304.html
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iQ, thank you for the web site link. I like it.

In general I'm chiefly a veggie eater along with some white meat (chicken and fish) thrown in. Love my veggies though, and have so far preferred to try and get the needed intake of Vitamins and minerals from food rather than supplements (except for Iron).

Of course one can not always get the full dose from foods so I might try your suggestion of organic supplements to handle Kundalini.

I've already begun to do the grounding visualization you suggested. Walking on grass is also easy to do as is tree hugging, since I live in very green surroundings. No beach close by though.

Last night seemed to be symptom free except for the slight pressure in the middle of the forehead. And a bone-deep pain in my left thigh almost at the point of the hip. But the pain lasted for only a minute or so during which time I spoke with Goddess Parvati. I felt the pain lessen, felt it actually "melt" away and then there was no more pain. Never had this type of pain before either.

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iQ, I wanted to tell you about some more experiences, which I haven’t had the time to document until now.

On January 4, 2013, while I was having my usual conversation with Goddess Parvati just before sleeping, I became aware of a pretty distinctive and strong smell of burning sulfur … the kind one smells when a match is lit … it was not unpleasant at all, just unusual. Since there was no reason for this indoors (I don’t smoke, don’t have matches, and only have candle lighters), I was surprised. So I got out of bed and checked if the stove had been left on by mistake, etc. Unable to figure out where the smell was coming from, I lay back down, realizing that the smell was only in the bedroom and mostly around my bed.

The funny thing was that I became aware of the smell only during my conversation with Goddess Parvati. I made a decision to wake up in a couple of hours to check if the smell was still around and then fell asleep.

My internal clock woke me up in about 2 hours and the smell was just as strong as before. I went back to sleep. The next morning the smell was gone. A web search of this type of smell in connection with Kundalini awakening has revealed nothing. I wonder what you think?
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~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

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