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Linda Jones
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posted December 07, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on the discussion about Kundalini from this thread-- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000173.html

iQ, in as far as astrology can predict, do you think my mind is strong enough to handle Kundalini awakening if it happens?

Below is the info on my Mercury contacts. I don’t know how to put all this info together to make an assessment, particularly in light of the kite formation. I wondered what you think? House placements are in Placidus.

Thank you tremendously for your insight!!!

Mercury contacts:

Mercury at 10 Gem (direct, 2nd house) forms the apex (or focal point?) of a kite

Ques—is it the energy of the apex/focal point that is the most strengthened in a kite?

Conjunctions to Mercury—

~ In the order listed:
Aldebaran conjunct Mercury (exact), conjunct Nada (exact), conjunct Angel (1 deg), conjunct Intercosmos (1 deg).


The Grand trine in the Kite is in fire between—

1) Mars in Aries (direct, 12th house) (exact sextile to Mercury),

2) Hekate conjunct Antares (Antares is exactly trine Mars, Hekate is conjunct Antares by 1.5 orb, conjunct GA by 2-3 0rb, and opposite Mercury by 1 orb).

3) The third point in the trine is Samadhi in Leo (4th house) (exact sextile to Mercury, 1 deg trine to Mars, exact trine to Antares, and 1 deg trine to Hekate)

In addition Samadhi is conjunct Apollo (less than 3 deg).

And Mars is conjunct Eros (1 deg), which is conjunct Yes (1 deg).


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Some of the info I’ve come across—

APOLLO is considered the multiplier: expansion and spreading, growth and increase. Science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts ... The glyph is a combination of Jupiter and Gemini, and Apollo is a Super-Duper-Jupiter. Relates to those seeking to reach the highest pinnacles of success.

The info I’ve dug up on Nada and Samadhi is:

NADA— Divine Music. The subjective direction of will by knowledge to the desired end. Nada is the mystic sounds of the Eternal, of which the highest is the transcendent or Soundless Sound, Paranada, the first vibration from which creation emanates. This vibration is called nada or nadam, cosmic music. Plato called it the "music of the spheres", the music of Nature. It is known as OM. It is the voice of silence. OM is the eternal name of the Absolute conciousness, I-AM.

NADA (by iQ)— Asteroid Nada as the place in our chart where we finetune our ability to listen to the "Music of Spheres". For those into yoga, this Asteroid can tell the practitioner when and how to listen to the "Aum Sound" in deep meditative states or during Kundalini Rise.

SAMADHI— A state of spiritual ecstasy in which consciousness leaves the body." But this is not the whole phenomenon, as the breath stops and so does the beating of the heart. But it is not a form of trance as in the trance state both of these continue. It is claimed that Samadhi is a state attained only by highly Enlightened people--people who have reached Spiritual Illumination. It is a state where the spirit temporarily leaves the body and goes into one of bliss. All the Enlightened Ones who have attained Samadhi describe it as Bliss.

HEKATE seems to have gotten a bit of a bad rap as, over time, she’s been reduced to a stereotypical warty witch associated with poisons potions, and even death. But her other symbol is the cross, representing the “crossroads and the trinity of the triple goddess.” So her supernatural and divining nature becomes important when we’re standing at crossroads and needing guidance.

I’ve not read anything good about Antares, so don’t know what its conjunction of 1.5 orb to Hekate would mean, or the conjunction of Hekate to the GA. Also Mercury, ruler of Hekate (?) is in opposition to Hekate and Anteres. And Antares is exactly trine Mars (doesn’t sound good … is it indicative of violence or violent death. Not sure if Samadhi conjunct Apollo thrown in the mix would make things better).

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posted December 07, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SABIANS for the four points of the kite--Mars, Mercury, Samadhi, Hekate—

MARS— A TEACHER GIVES NEW SYMBOLIC FORMS TO TRADITIONAL IMAGES.
KEYNOTE: Revision of attitude at the beginning of a new cycle of experience.
At this fifth stage a new dimension of consciousness is discovered, revealing higher possibilities of experience and mental development. This is a phase of ABSTRACTION and of emotional allegiance.

MERCURY— NEWLY OPENED LANDS OFFER THE PIONEER NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPERIENCE.
KEYNOTE: The power and joy of new beginnings.
Now, at this third level, we find the human being essentially engaged in his personal and particular struggle for full and effective individualization. And the initial realization he has to experience is that he has reached a potentially virgin field of consciousness and activity. He is facing the unfamiliar. Anything could happen.
Having conquered, at least to some extent, the collective and material energies of nature and society, man has become relatively "separate" from the past. He faces the future. Every step ahead should show him RISING TO THE OCCASION.

SAMADHI— CHILDREN PLAY ON A SWING HANGING FROM THE BRANCHES OF A HUGE OAK TREE.
KEYNOTE: The power of tradition as it shelters the beginnings of individual self-expression.
This begins the twenty-seventh five-fold sequence of symbols; it deals essentially with the release of emotional intensity at various levels of the individualized consciousness as it reacts to the newly developed potentialities of the mind. We are dealing at this first stage with the SPONTANEOUS ACTIVITY OF THE INNOCENT MIND.

HEKATE— A FLAG TURNS INTO AN EAGLE; THE EAGLE INTO A CHANTICLEER SALUTING THE DAWN.
KEYNOTE: The spiritualization and promotion of great symbols of a New Age by minds sensitive to its precursory manifestations.
The eagle symbolizes spiritual will and the power to rise to the highest possible altitude of consciousness and purpose. Flying at such an altitude, the eagle is the first living creature to perceive the rising sun. Having perceived it, it heralds it.
This second stage symbol urges us to bring our noblest ideals to actual life through the power of the spiritual will. A Keyword might be ANNUNCIATION (to announce).

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posted December 07, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, since my natal Neptune makes several aspects to inner planets, I looked up Poseidon and found that it too makes quite a few contacts. I’ll just write the most important ones (in my view) here. I read that Poseidon is the higher “octave” of Neptune without the negative effects of Neptune. Do you agree?

POSEIDON contacts:
-Conjunct MC (2 deg), which is conjunct Alma (2 deg),
-opposite Erda (the seer), on the IC (1 deg),
-trines NN in Virgo (2 deg),
-sextiles-exact-Anubis/exactly conjunct Vishnu (Hindu God of sea?),
-trines Garuda—Vishnu’s mount (2 deg),
-exactly square DNA (concerned about this aspect. I’m unsure how DNA aspects should be looked at).


OTHER aspects of interest in my natal—
--Giza is exactly conjunct SGC,
--Iris is loosely conjunct SGC (3 deg),
--Spirit is exactly opposite SGC/Giza,
--Mercury/Nada conjunct Aldebaran conjunct Angel conjunct Intercosmos (already mentioned above),
--Atlantis trines GC (1 deg),
--Psyche conjunct Asc (1 deg),
--Sekhmet trine Atlantis (exact),
--Sun conjunct Pleiades (1 deg).

--ANOTHER KITE—
------Aura, Karma, and Osiris/Horus make a grand trine in water with Pallas (in earth) as the fourth point in sextile to Horus and Karma (all 0-1 deg). Osiris/Horus are in Pisces, 12th house (it’s a 1 deg conjunction, Horus is connected to 3rd Eye Chakra, Horus is ruled by Neptune).

------backbone of kite formed by—
Aura opposite Pallas (1 deg),


iQ, what do you make of the Mercury contacts, Poseidon contacts, and other aspects listed? What should I understand from the kite involving Aura, Karma, Horus, and Pallas? Would the energy of Pallas be the most strengthened in this kite? Thank you.

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Hekate is one of the very few gods/ goddesses who is able to roam all three levels: heaven, earth, underworld; jsut like Anubis she seems to be able to switch dimensions, which is why I view her as important in astral connections as well.


Antares is the "warrior star". The downside is that Antares tends to overdo things, and go overboard with passion and zeal. But there is of course a bright side here as well. The unwavering will to fight for ones ideals for example. Enthusiasm and passion.

I actually have Neptune-NN on Antares, ATLANTIS only 1 degree off, Angel-Lust-Wisdom-ASC is 2 degrees off, though probably anything over 1 degree might be too wide to be really strong. I guess 1.5 degrees would be still there, but quite subtle.


About Kites: I view the opposition as the backbone and core of the configuration and start the interpetation from there. ONe end is of course cushioned by the Grand Trine.
The other is kind of "sticking out", and becomse very focal, yes, I agree.


I have a Kite formation, consisting of a GT in Earth of:

Venus/Isis/Osiris in Cap
Hekate/LIlith/Rudra in Virgo
PoM/ Lucifer/Actor in Taurus

and Hekate/Lilith/Rudra having an exact opposition to

Pholus/Echnaton/Horus/Ishtar/Ceres in Pisces


I`d view the placement in Pisces as the point all the energy is directed to, as it looks like the kite is pointing there. You know what I mean?

Well, my Kite is standing on its head.


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posted December 08, 2012 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kundalini is the most powerful Energy manifesting in the 3rd Dimension. Astrology will assist in explaining the odds of success with Kundalini Yoga but even the best of humanity like Jiddu Krishnamurti went into terrifying delirium during his Kundalini Awakening. It took nearly a month to stabilize.

From this legendary Man's chart, we know the clues to a successful Kundalini Yoga practice.

1. Ascendant conjunct Kaali exact in Aquarius. Air Element increases safety in the Astral Plane as emotional programming cannot be done.

2. KAALI sextile ISIS exact. 2 superb Divine Feminine Archetypes in harmony. This means the "Nadis" like Ida, Pingala, Sushumna and all smaller etheric nerves have good odds of managing energy flow.

3. Moon in Sagittarius conjunct PALLAS.
A Clairvyant Aspect, but very safe.
Again, virtually no chance of emotional programming. Kundalini could not be diverted for religious causes or cult purposes. JK dumped the theosophical society after his Kundalini Rise. This means the other theosophy members NEVER got the Full Kundalini Rise to their Crown Chakra. It was being diverted from the 6th into their Astral Controllers.

4. SIVA trine Moon. Positive for "Samadhi".

5. Mars and Mercury are in semi-square. Not easy but far better than the stress of a square.

6. Chart Ruler Uranus bashes his Sun and Ascendant. A Uranus square will trigger surprising insights and intellectual growth but Jiddu's life otheriwse had ZERO possessions and attachments. He had Jupiter, Venus and Mars in 5th. Had he chosen a path of business after a partial Kundalini Rise, he would have become a demented billionaire.
He did get the living conditions of an Indian billionaire of those times, considering that he was a poor villagers son yet got to live and teach in Switzerland, America etc. That is the typical 5th House luck when you have Jupiter and Venus there than Saturn

7. Mercury is in the Earth Element for him but Neptune is not afflicted, not afflicting and in the Air Element.


Thus, good deal of safe Air Element Planets for Pluto and Neptune are very useful.
Mars-Mercury positive aspect definitely helps. Moon should ideally not be in a water element. Kaali, Isis, Siva and Osiris need to be unafflicted. Sun being blessed helps, JK had Sun sextile North Node exact.
Less Saturn afflictions help, less 12th House and 8th House planets help because this means less karmic debts to be burned, less desires for Kundalini to Self-Identify with.

I think you have a better chance than most to succeed in Kundalini Yoga, but then again every step has to be done with extreme caution no matter what the strengths are in the charts.

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posted December 11, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ceri for explaining with your chart. I really appreciate your time.

“Hekate is one of the very few gods/ goddesses who is able to roam all three levels: heaven, earth, underworld; jsut like Anubis she seems to be able to switch dimensions, which is why I view her as important in astral connections as well.”

So … with Hekate’s opposition to Intercosmos in my natal, I guess the ease of moving through dimensions increases(?)

Thanks for confirming the focal point of a kite. And for explaining Antares as well. With Antares’ trine to Mars in my natal, it would mean that I would tend to overdo things physically. This is true as I wear myself out physically in projects that I take on. I don’t set out to do this, but it ends up being that way. I find that it does provide relief from my overworked mind though, as physical exhaustion prevents thinking and sometimes gives me an emotional break too


“I`d view the placement in Pisces as the point all the energy is directed to, as it looks like the kite is pointing there. You know what I mean?”

Yes I get it, thanks. LOL about your kite standing on its head.

As I’ve just discovered, I think it’s my PALLAS that helps me in somehow “sensing” others’ energies and auras

You can correct me if I’m wrong about PALLAS being the key for me in this. PALLAS trines ASC (3 deg) and is also the apex of a kite which has AURA, KARMA, OSIRIS/HORUS as the GT. PALLAS opposes AURA in the backbone.

Also, my Merc. with its conjunctions to Aldebaran/Nada/Angel/Intercosmos is conjunct your DESC and Opp your Mars/ASC/Neptune/NN.

And all this squares your Rudra/Hekate and Horus/Istar/Ceres/Jupiter opposition! Making a grand square If there is such a thing as a grand square in synastry.

I just checked, it exists. So what does this mean? That I will divide your burden ... a burden shared is a burden halved? I hope so! For all that you're teaching me, that's the least I can do


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The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

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posted December 11, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you iQ for introducing me to JK. I wanted to look at his chart but found that his birth info is different on different sites. Would you mind sharing which date and birth time you studied?

I read a brief bio on his whole life. It’s very intense and I want to continue reading more about his thoughts and ideas. I was saddened to read that he was separated from his birth parents at such a young age and then was not allowed to get back together with his own Father. But then this was his karma, I guess, without which he wouldn’t have been able to influence the world in the way he did. Interesting that he was Sun Taurus.

Comparing my chart to what you said about his—

“1. Ascendant conjunct Kaali exact in Aquarius. Air Element increases safety in the Astral Plane as emotional programming cannot be done.”

My ASC is in earth and widely sextiles KAALI (in water) by 3 deg (see below).
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“2. KAALI sextile ISIS exact. 2 superb Divine Feminine Archetypes in harmony. This means the "Nadis" like Ida, Pingala, Sushumna and all smaller etheric nerves have good odds of managing energy flow.”

My KAALI sextiles ISIS (1 deg), and ISIS is widely conjunct my ASC (4 deg). BUT in this 4 deg conjunction, there are other objects—moving from ISIS to the ASC from the 1st house—ISIS is conjunct AMOR (less than 2 deg), AMOR is conjunct PSYCHE (1 deg), PSYCHE is conjunct ASC (1 deg).

KITE Formation—In fact ISIS makes a (1 deg) sextile with KAALI on one side and a (1 deg) sextile with PARVATI on the other side. KAALI trines PARVATI exact and also trines SOULIE exact. So the GT is between KAALI, PARVATI, and SOULIE (all water). The fourth point of the kite is ISIS in earth. ISIS and SOULIE are exactly opposite.
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” 3. Moon in Sagittarius conjunct PALLAS.”

My MOON is in earth and PALLAS trines ASC by 3 deg.

PALLAS is also the focal point of a kite (mentioned earlier)— AURA, KARMA, and OSIRIS/HORUS make a grand trine in water with PALLAS (in earth) as the fourth point in sextile to OSIRIS/HORUS and KARMA (all 0-1 deg). Backbone of this kite is formed by—AURA opposite PALLAS (1 deg).

So imo PALLAS seems strong in my chart (I think?), but I’ve never been part of any religious or cult organization. I’ve been repeatedly invited and offered memberships (through personal friends who are members), and even been invited to speak (give lectures and seminars at these organizations), but I’ve not accepted them because I have no interest in organized religion. The invitations began when I was in college.
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“4. SIVA trine Moon. Positive for "Samadhi"

My SHIVA trines MOON exact (28 mins). Also, MOON is conjunct RUDRA by less than 3 deg.

There is a GT between my PF/RUDRA/MOON trine SHIVA trine SATURN (all in earth). The completion of this kite is formed by MAHAKALA in water which sextiles PF/RUDRA/MOON and SATURN, and opposes SHIVA. So backbone of this kite is between SHIVA and MAHAKALA, with MAHAKALA at the apex of the kite.
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“5. Mars and Mercury are in semi-square.”

My Mars and Mercury are in an exact sextile.
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“6. Chart Ruler Uranus bashes his Sun and Ascendant.”

My chart ruler Venus is in the first hse, and widely trines Saturn (6-7 deg), conjuncts Sun (conjunct Pleiades) in air (8 deg—out of sign conjunction), and conjuncts MOON (9 deg). (I feel all these aspects in my personality, but definitely not in the self centered way as these conjunctions are sometimes interpreted. In fact egoistic selfishness is a real turn off for me).

Jupiter trines ASC.
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”7. Mercury is in the Earth Element.”

My Mercury is in air, and aspects are already listed earlier.

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posted December 11, 2012 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Kaali, Isis, Siva and Osiris need to be unafflicted.”

I’m not sure what exactly to look for here … but …

KAALI (in water)—squares IRIS (exact), and quincunxes VALENTINE (2 deg), though I’m not sure if quincunx is a harsh aspect. I think it’s worthwhile mentioning that KAALI is conjunct HYPNOS by 3 degrees. Don’t know if it weakens the effect of KAALI.

ISIS (in earth)—squares APOLLO (1 deg, 28 mins), and squares VALENTINE (1 deg).

SHIVA (in earth)—opposes VIBHUTI (1 deg), squares ANGEL (2 deg), squares INTERCOSMOS (exact), quincunxes PHOLUS (1 deg), and squares GA (exact).

OSIRIS (in water)—quincunxes Atlantis (2 deg), quincunxes UNION (1 deg, 29 min), quincunxes KING (2 deg, 34 min), opposes SHANKAR (1 deg, 49 min), and squares GC (exact).
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“Less Saturn afflictions help, less 12th House and 8th House planets help because this means less karmic debts to be burned, less desires for Kundalini to Self-Identify with.”

My Saturn is unafflicted (?)—has 2 trines, one quincunx, and one greater than 8 deg square. I have one 12th hse planet (Mars) and zero 8th hse planets.

iQ, what is your overall assessment of strength given this new information? Have KAALI, ISIS, SHIVA and OSIRIS been weakened?

Also, what is your opinion about the quincunx aspect? Do you see it more as a mystical aspect than a harsh one? There are conflicting views about this aspect on the web. Thank you.

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posted December 13, 2012 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AllanBeau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IVE DONE "LOTS" of Kundalini Yoga. Shucks, I used to be told I did yoga during sex. I believe I already had my Kundalini open before.

Its an experience that feels like ecstasy. Did I have control over it? Naw I let it take me over, you can never control the coil snake.

Since your all talking about asteroids I looked up Kali in my natal chart... Its conjunct my Venus and North Node in Taurus. My Mercury is conjunct Castor and Pollux and in Mutual Reception with my Moon... (Cancer Mercury-Virgo Moon)so I am equip to handle higher energies of consciousness.

OR it could be my Saturn in Scorpio conjunct South Node. I don't have an energy block within my sexual nature. I have tried ALOT of different positions.

"A tantra is a divinely revealed body of teachings, explaining what is necessary and what is a hindrance in the practice of the worship of God; and also describing the specialized initiation and purification ceremonies that are the necessary prerequisites of Tantric practice."

Sexual rites can also make you reach the Kali.

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posted December 14, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi AllanBeau and welcome to LL! Hope you enjoy yourself.

And thanks for contributing to the thread!

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Originally posted by iQ:
Kundalini is the most powerful Energy manifesting in the 3rd Dimension. Astrology will assist in explaining the odds of success with Kundalini Yoga but even the best of humanity like Jiddu Krishnamurti went into terrifying delirium during his Kundalini Awakening. It took nearly a month to stabilize.

From this legendary Man's chart, we know the clues to a successful Kundalini Yoga practice.

1. Ascendant conjunct Kaali exact in Aquarius. Air Element increases safety in the Astral Plane as emotional programming cannot be done.

2. KAALI sextile ISIS exact. 2 superb Divine Feminine Archetypes in harmony. This means the "Nadis" like Ida, Pingala, Sushumna and all smaller etheric nerves have good odds of managing energy flow.

3. Moon in Sagittarius conjunct PALLAS.
A Clairvyant Aspect, but very safe.
Again, virtually no chance of emotional programming. Kundalini could not be diverted for religious causes or cult purposes. JK dumped the theosophical society after his Kundalini Rise. This means the other theosophy members NEVER got the Full Kundalini Rise to their Crown Chakra. It was being diverted from the 6th into their Astral Controllers.

4. SIVA trine Moon. Positive for "Samadhi".

5. Mars and Mercury are in semi-square. Not easy but far better than the stress of a square.

6. Chart Ruler Uranus bashes his Sun and Ascendant. A Uranus square will trigger surprising insights and intellectual growth but Jiddu's life otheriwse had ZERO possessions and attachments. He had Jupiter, Venus and Mars in 5th. Had he chosen a path of business after a partial Kundalini Rise, he would have become a demented billionaire.
He did get the living conditions of an Indian billionaire of those times, considering that he was a poor villagers son yet got to live and teach in Switzerland, America etc. That is the typical 5th House luck when you have Jupiter and Venus there than Saturn

7. Mercury is in the Earth Element for him but Neptune is not afflicted, not afflicting and in the Air Element.


Thus, good deal of safe Air Element Planets for Pluto and Neptune are very useful.
Mars-Mercury positive aspect definitely helps. Moon should ideally not be in a water element. Kaali, Isis, Siva and Osiris need to be unafflicted. Sun being blessed helps, JK had Sun sextile North Node exact.
Less Saturn afflictions help, less 12th House and 8th House planets help because this means less karmic debts to be burned, less desires for Kundalini to Self-Identify with.

I think you have a better chance than most to succeed in Kundalini Yoga, but then again every step has to be done with extreme caution no matter what the strengths are in the charts.


So let's say someone (AKA me) is mostly void of air except for Chiron, then practicing certain types of meditation, astral projection, etc is dangerous for them?
And my Mars squares Mercury.
And I have Scorpio Moon
And 12th house sun conjunct neptune.....
And while Siva and Siwa conjunct Asc, there are some squares.....
I cannot turn it off. So I'd like to know how it can be safe.

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posted January 04, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
So let's say someone (AKA me) is mostly void of air except for Chiron, then practicing certain types of meditation, astral projection, etc is dangerous for them?
And my Mars squares Mercury.
And I have Scorpio Moon
And 12th house sun conjunct neptune.....
And while Siva and Siwa conjunct Asc, there are some squares.....
I cannot turn it off. So I'd like to know how it can be safe.


Hi Bridge. Until iQ responds here's one of his threads with links that show the pitfalls of Kundalini Yoga.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000172.html

I think it's a very important read for anyone attempting any sort of Kundalini Yoga practice. There are many examples of how people have suffered mentally, emotionally, and physically because of premature Kundalini arousal, since the Kundalini is such a powerful source of energy.

About the strength of your aspects ... I'm unsure, as I'm not experienced enough to make a judgment. But on a side note, asteroids Siva and Siwa are completely different in that I'm pretty sure they have different meanings.

The former is the Hindu God of destruction while the latter is the Slavic Goddess of fertility.

You can read more on their difference in this thread--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000328.html

Here, iQ has described really well what Siva stands for--

"Siva as a Principle represents the Positive Polarity that attracts Kundalini Energy from the base of the spine. This is the goal of Tantra: Sex without any Lust nor climax to boost Kundalini, using the 33 Vertebrae like a Wave Guide. In Ancient Literature, Siva is credited with the complete knowledge of Kundalini Yoga, with or without Tantra."

Siva Avatars in Vedic Myths prove that of the three Core Energies [Siva, Brahma and Vishnu], Siva is most dominant. Vishnu takes birth as Avatars during every Age but Siva does not need to take an Avatar Form to visit Earth. Siva in several Myths also exhibits Multi-Dimensional Immortality as Siva, MahaKala , Nataraj, Rudra and Hanuman. Hanuman is the only character to be Immortal, Active and be on Earth in both Ramayana and Mahabharata. Even Krishna gets killed by an arrow, but Siva, ruling Death/MahaKala, has never been killed in an Earthly Visit.

Philosophers have connected the Siva Principle to the Infinite, Unmanifest Energy of the Eternal God.

Yes, there is a lot of the Pluto theme to Siva too [sans the capture of Proserpine]"


Also--

"<< 'Divine "Un-Manifest" Actuality of God' >>

My explanation is from a combination of Hermetic/Vedanta theory of All that exists + All Vacuum = God.

God = Infinite Vacuum
+ All possible Mathematical Equations/Formulae
+ Infinite Energy not yet Manifested in Observable Dimensions
+ All Connected Higher Souls
+ Repository of Energy that can Manifest [Shakti]
+ multiple Universes of Manifested Energy in several dimensions that span many illusory time-lines.

Siva is the Archetypal Diety that "Manifests" in our Mind from that storehouse of Unmanifest Energy. Siva Principal can be utilized by Higher Souls to control Shakti and Manifest different dimensions of "Physical" Reality, which is "Maya" or Illusion. Siva Principle is accessed by deepest Dhyana Yoga, contemplation on God without any symbols or manifested distractions.

A Deity is not God, just another Energetic Construct in our Illusory Planes but a Deity has a very strong Cord to one of the Highest Energetic Levels of the Infinite God Source."

Oh I just read your recent thread in the Spider Line forum about Astral Visits--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000187.html

Again, I don't know much about the topic as I've never had an experience like that. But from reading what you wrote, I would be very careful. I don't know of ways you can protect yourself, except through total focus on prayer. I hope iQ responds either here or on your thread there.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted January 04, 2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your response, Linda. I checked out some of the links. I want to stress that the astral visits/sleep paralysis started when I was a child and I did not try to initiate them. Years later, however I learned about meditation and then tried to help it and in the process I may have inadvertently tried to cut corners to get a desired goal which I now know never works. I am involved in 12 step work that I think helps me stay grounded and motivates me to be grateful. Right now I am kind of staying away from anything until I know what to do. When I tried to faciliate my spiritual growth along....I did in fact see and hear things and now I want to do it safely. And as for Siva and Siwa they are both conjunct my Ascendant even know they are different which caused me to think that was important...So thanks again.

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Oh and I forgot to mention PRIDE! My ego got HUGE and then basically instead of receiving messages from a loving God/Higher Self/Source/etc, I had warped it into just sitting alone in a room listening to my ego flattering itself.

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bridgetostars

sleep paralysis is a step towards going out of body. you will continue to invite and confront your worst fears in that state, until you overcome them and are balanced enough to 'step out' (of body) fully.

there is no way that i know of, of gradually integrating the transition via waking reality. -that i know of-. if you have a natural gift you will know about it quite early on. most people then tend to either shut it off or attempt some day time protection or grounding techniques and all the rest, but even then, once opened, the energy is simply too strong. so they fight it, or block it out completely. it then becomes unhealthy repressed psychic energy, or a constant battle with fear. until you're cognizant enough of your own internal reality, you're going to have some initial ego show downs at dawn, with yourself, as it were. that's your main worry, imho. once they are out of the way, things get a lot easier.

so the astral ime, acts as a mirror. if you fear the worst, the worst will come - because you are vibrating at that level. 9 times out of ten, that shadow at the end of the bed, was YOU. there is nothing to be afraid of. there HAS to be complete equilibrium in mind-body-soul before you can exit your body, or have full access to your gifts. any imbalance will be brought to the surface for you to deal with it before you can move forward. your spirit guides WILL assist you if you ask them.

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quote:
Originally posted by anno_lucis:
bridgetostars

sleep paralysis is a step towards going out of body. you will continue to invite and confront your worst fears in that state, until you overcome them and are balanced enough to 'step out' (of body) fully.

there is no way that i know of, of gradually integrating the transition via waking reality. -that i know of-. if you have a natural gift you will know about it quite early on. most people then tend to either shut it off or attempt some day time protection or grounding techniques and all the rest, but even then, once opened, the energy is simply too strong. so they fight it, or block it out completely. it then becomes unhealthy repressed psychic energy, or a constant battle with fear. until you're cognizant enough of your own internal reality, you're going to have some initial ego show downs at dawn, with yourself, as it were. that's your main worry, imho. once they are out of the way, things get a lot easier.

so the astral ime, acts as a mirror. if you fear the worst, the worst will come - because you are vibrating at that level. 9 times out of ten, that shadow at the end of the bed, was YOU. there is nothing to be afraid of. there HAS to be complete equilibrium in mind-body-soul before you can exit your body, or have full access to your gifts. any imbalance will be brought to the surface for you to deal with it before you can move forward. your spirit guides WILL assist you if you ask them.


Currently answering you in another forum, ha. Thanks for this response. It makes a lot of sense to me. There have been a few times where I have left my body and it was amazing and you're right, those were times when I was in harmony and balanced and was actively facing my fears in my waking life. I chose to live in fear and the astral projection got scary again.

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no prob! there are some links to some chi kung healing and a protection visualization which i posted in the kaali thread which you might find useful aswell

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Mercury sextile Mars
Mercury conjunct Jupiter
Mercury conjunct Neptune
Mercury sextile Pluto


and with the color horoscope of astro.com
my top 3 planets are..

Mercury 16.8
Pluto 15.2
Jupiter 13.4

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I need to reread as I'm very tired
lately and not retaining info as
well as I wish.

OP I'm intrigued with this post and
hope you might still be around. I'm
going to reread soon and better
reply then.


Looking at these asteroids, I found
some close energies-


-Natal Apollo 0' conj Venus
(Pisces)
-Sidereal Samadhi 0' conj
both Dr Moon & Venus
(Pisces)
-Dr Isis 0' conj Sidereal Neptune (Sco)
-Sidereal Kaali 1' conj Dr Mercury (Aqu)
-Sidereal Samadhi 0' conj Dr
Parvati
-Sidereal Mahakala, 0' conj
Dr Wray (truth revealer)

in Helio:
Samadhi Q Pallas

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